now i've got my hot drink i'll finish my reads. i realise some people consider this to be a risky thing to do at night but since we don't yet know how many mafia or hostile third-parties their are we don't know the number of people who will get killed tonight (although it's suspected to be pretty high) so i'd rather get my reads out there in case i do get killed and can't post them in the day.
first half of my reads are here for those concerned - oddly enough it's not appearing when you click my name to search my posts but i figure that that's just a forum glitch since it's still there.
endless - casting my personal upset aside endless did come in and break the ice with the introduction of the purple votes and the first set of RQS, something that a scum player or someone with something to hide wouldn't be inclined to do as it immediately put them under the spotlight. they've shared their thoughts on a couple of players though i'd really like to see more since a lot of their posts regard the acts of the blue roles (including straight off the bat with recommending the doc protect sataric due to his won - even though we don't know whether the stuff that can be acquired through the black market is worth a night's protection especially since the night is expected to be lethal) which could be either genuine concern or somebody trying to get blue roles to play into their hands. their posts are consistent in this though, and read very transparent and honest to me, so at the moment i'm erring to the former and hence have them at a slight town lean.
xine - xine hasn't posted a great deal yet but their post regarding their suspicions reads very transparently to me. yes - their main suspect was ashtot and it was ashtot who got lynched and flipped blue, but a) ashtot's posts raised the same suspicions with me and b) since this is a kingmaker (? is this the correct term) game, one player's suspicions don't really have a great impact, and most people cast their purple votes on oak and kirby anyway. they also explored all the outcomes regarding the doctor save discussion which shows to me that they're not holding anything back, so i'm very interested in seeing what other reads they have. slight town lean for now since i'd still like to hear a bit more from them.
tom - tom's post honestly confuse me so much i really can't read him at this point. they're either banter or very straight to the point (which i feel comes across as honest but i'd really like to see more of the reasoning behind some of their thoughts, for instance the 'him (daniel) or oak would be a good choice for lynch', which brief reasons were given for but not enough i feel to warrant trying to lead a lynch. i feel this is down to them just being busy outside of this game so i'm going to read them as null for now and come back later after i've seen a bit more.
entropy - i was slightly skeptic of them when ashtot and minties stated pretty early on that they trusted them based on how they got their reads right in previous games, but having seen more from entropy herself since i find her thoughts very clear and she's ruthless in calling other people out (in particular liamslash's post
here which rubbed me right up the wrong way and that nobody else seemed to pick up on but since he responded with reasoning that i felt sufficient i didn't bring it up again). although minties mentioned that she tended to keep her reasoning to herself which isn't exactly a pro-town thing to do in my opinion i am not getting this feeling from her posts and i feel that her reads and views are very individual which is valuable to town so i'm reading town lean.
sataric - they were quick to admit their mistake with the initial debacle with the won which i feel that anyone who was trying to scam people wouldn't do in favour of pursuing their point in order to get what they want. however i did think that they were quick to buy into kirby's vig claim especially after you had him down as the most suspicious player and purple-voted him just five hours before you back-pedalled. this is strange play to me as a claim - especially without any added defense (i.e kirby just claimed his role and name and didn't really defend himself alongside that) wouldn't be enough to erase my suspicions of a player who otherwise i found to be very suspicious. you seem to put a lot of thought into the possible scenarios in the game which is why i'm surprised that you missed the possibility that mafia have been supplied with a list of names for each role in case they want to claim. i'd like to hear your defense on this but i'm currently reading you as a slight scum lean.
ness - please post more so i can actually gain an accurate read on you. their one post didn't raise any instant red flags to me and since i have nothing else to go off other than that i'll have to keep them as a null read for now although if they keep this up i imagine they'll be a candidate for a modkill or replacement.
liamslash - this post does not sit well with me atall
Speaking personally here, I have no idea why he town read me. I feel like if he town reads me he might have a reason or something, as, from as much as I can say, I haven't done anything. I just want to cover my back to say if he flips scum, I had nothing to do with him.
'i have no idea why he town read me' 'he might have a reason or something' 'i haven't done anything'; ALL of these statements point towards you being something other than town. why would you want to hear a particular reason for someone town-reading you if you were actually town? 'i haven't done anything' also implies that you intended to appear as something other than town. to me this is a huge slip so i'm scum leaning you for now.
esphas - i really want to see more from you though i understand if you're deliberately shying away from posting since you were mislynched on the basis of being active in the SU game. null read.
shiida - based on the SU game i can safely say that i don't think shiida is third-party since their play is completely different to when they were. the main difference being that they seem to be more active in contributing to pro-town discussion though i'd still like to hear more of their thoughts. slight town lean.
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i'm sad to say that i'm a busy bee for pretty much the entirety of this weekend. tomorrow night my bf is staying over then the next morning we're going straight to a festival which lasts until sunday morning. i will be coming home saturday morning for a shower so depending on whether anybody comes back with me i might be able to post in detail, but otherwise it's sunday before i'll manage to post any new cases or in depth reads. i should still be able to answer any questions directed at me using my phone though hopefully.
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Tui, the sentence 'I was town reading him at that time' is exclusive of the current. And while that can be explained as needing to check up on my meta to re-affirm your townread, ever since the notion was passed that I was 'controlling', it's been mentioned by a lot of people that that isn't weird behaviour for me. In fact, it would be weird if I wasn't.
i see how that line implies that i currently read you otherwise, my followup still implied that i read you as town and that my read wasn't swayed by the fact you were controlling if it appeared that way to me in your meta (which i said i would check once i finished my in depth read on you)
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@Crys
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crys - i find their posts odd at times, in particular this one:
i mean there's a chance anyone could be mafia but I don't think I'll see him contribute as I haven't even seen him post in the forum in awhile.
To whoever wants to answer or whatever idc; if you could have one person lynched or killed right now who would it be?
the first part was responding to miharu who asked why they were suspicious of blue pikachu (being that their original reasoning was just 'there is a chance he could be mafia') and their second response here is nearly as basic and really just points out the obvious. and the last half of this post seems to be fishing for people to pin lynches on which is a pretty scummy thing to do especially only 24 hours after the game has started and people are only just starting to get a feel for eachother's gameplay.'
this is my read on you from yesterday which i c/p'ed since it included a quote. you've probably seen it already but since you're asking for reads on you i figured there was a chance you hadn't.
