Mafia TBT Mafia: Steven Universe 2 Mafia!!! Town and Kat win!!!!

[Seroja]

I'm not mafia, which helps me with that PoE, but I understand not you guys. I'm inclined to think it's Uttumori.

I'll put my vote on Lil Silver in now since there's not going to be anything causing a change at this stage.

Actually the reason why I think Uttumori was cleared is because I misunderstood Jacob's post. I initially thought that if any mafia member is blocked then one kp will be nulled (as in doesn't matter who sends in the kp). So that means yeah Uttumori could still be mafia.

@Kat, what about me could suggest that I'm mafia? My scum and town play is like night and day.

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Nope, I'm townie, I don't get notified.

Whelp, really? I thought you get notified of a roleblock regardless of alignment? Or am I wrong?

 

[Jacob]

The "all actions" bit is what's getting me. If it were two shots, I'd think it'd block both shots because it falls under "all actions", yet Dolby's vest is popped. What if someone else was hit last night?

If a bodyguard's target is shot twice, would they take both before dying, or would they die after one?

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@Dolby How is seroja townlocked? I townlean her, but idk about townlock. All I know about is the inno inspect, which doesnt confirm her when last one is GF

A body guard's target would need to be shot twice for the shot to hit them. The first shot kills the body guard, the second shot would hit the target -- if that's what you're asking.

Sorry if I missed any questions. If I did, please ask again!

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Also happy 4th of July!!

 

[Seroja]

Thanks Jacob! I had a q for u too.

COLOR="#008000"]What roles can fail a roleblock? If you can't answer this, then will the roleblocker be notified of a failed robleblock?

Also, will the person who got rb'ed be notified of it regardless of alignment?[/COLOR]

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Oops I mucked it up :/

 

[toadsworthy]

What about Seroja though?

Dolby is the oracle and confirmed, Kermit and Kirby are to a lesser extent confirmed. If any of them are actually mafia, then we deserve to lose anyway. Panda is most likely town, unless something strange like silver had to do both kills last night hence why she wasn't seen. Then there's seroja, I guess its more likely at this point that seroja is godfather than panda. But I feel confident in one of Uttumori, amanda or Kat being scum too. And if we have to flit around with godfather ideas, we will come to to that. Hell I expect to be killed before we would get a godfather because I'm not confirmed yet either.

But if we block amanda, and oracle uttumori or Kat tonight that can clear a lot up already. obviously RIP Dolby tonight, so hopefully we can figure out the last scum tonight.
If there is a godfather, would the goon carryout both kills?

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actually if there was a goon and a godfather left, would the goon carryout both kills even if the godfather chose both kills? is how I wanted to put that...

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Actually the reason why I think Uttumori was cleared is because I misunderstood Jacob's post. I initially thought that if any mafia member is blocked then one kp will be nulled (as in doesn't matter who sends in the kp). So that means yeah Uttumori could still be mafia.

@Kat, what about me could suggest that I'm mafia? My scum and town play is like night and day.

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Whelp, really? I thought you get notified of a roleblock regardless of alignment? Or am I wrong?

in response to the difference in play, in themeless mafia, before that game my scum game was terrible and obvious. However I played that game and everyone thought I was a really helpful town. So replicating your townie style is possible. Pointing out the differences obviously like that feels a little WIFOM

 

[Dolby]

Tbh, I'm having a really hard time thinking of who could be scum. Toads looks good. For Panda or Uttu to be scum, lil Silver would have to send in the kills. Brijade's reass list was amazingly town and I had a townlean on them early game. Could be Kirby but I doubt it. Don't think Kat would claim third, but we'll see. Don't have more time, but will think if a PoE tomorrow

 

[Seroja]

Tbh, I'm having a really hard time thinking of who could be scum. Toads looks good. For Panda or Uttu to be scum, lil Silver would have to send in the kills. Brijade's reass list was amazingly town and I had a townlean on them early game. Could be Kirby but I doubt it. Don't think Kat would claim third, but we'll see. Don't have more time, but will think if a PoE tomorrow

If Panda and Uttu is out of the question, honestly it's toads.

@Toads, how do I have a greater chance of being godfather than panda honestly. You give me too much credit.

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Oh I didn't read Toads' post merges. Ok that's understandable.

 

[f11]

actually if there was a goon and a godfather left, would the goon carryout both kills even if the godfather chose both kills? is how I wanted to put that...

]if the mafia team wanted to separate the kills they could, and if they wanted to just have one person do the two kills that would work also. It's up to them to use this strategy in what ever way they want.

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Thanks Jacob! I had a q for u too.

COLOR="#008000"]What roles can fail a roleblock? If you can't answer this, then will the roleblocker be notified of a failed robleblock?

Also, will the person who got rb'ed be notified of it regardless of alignment?[/COLOR]

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Oops I mucked it up :/

The only actions that can't get blocked is the strongarm. The roleblocker will not be notified. Only roles without actions do not get roleblock notifications.

 

[toadsworthy]

If Panda and Uttu is out of the question, honestly it's toads.

@Toads, how do I have a greater chance of being godfather than panda honestly. You give me too much credit.

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Oh I didn't read Toads' post merges. Ok that's understandable.

because the watcher thing last night is a little more confirming for her
there is the chance someone not inspected yet is godfather too

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I didn't read your post merge either whoops lol
honestly you are gonna believe its me over Kat? If I was scum with silver, I would have just kept the oracle read to myself and tried to get uttumori or amanda lynched.
Kat has done nothing to prove her role, and nothing to try to prove she isn't scum either. Her posts are few and far between (even with the decreased activity in here as of late) and her cases/ scum hunting just seems less involved than what she normally does. i know real life stuff is probably a factor but, it still feels less even for that. I refuse to believe a hollow claim like hers, she probably picked it because she could coast through on it

 

[PandaDarling]

If a townie gets roleblocked do they get notified ?

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Toads I'm being confirmed tonight lol. Also you never answered my question.

@Seroja I dont think you're sus. But I think you need to get thrown in the poe here because you're not lock town, yknow?

Tbh out of everyone I think Amanda is the most likely. She's been kinda distanced imo. Panda's essentially cleared bc of how actions work, Uttu I townread + the block. Idk why Toads would out fellow scum, and I townread Seroja and Ayaya. That leaves only amanda unless its Kirby I suppose.

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Also, for what its worth, I may adopt this new playstyle for future games. Gotta say I'm enjoying the game a lot playing this way.

 

[toadsworthy]

i guess I kinda answered your question by reflecting on everyone...

but I mean yeah seroja could be godfather, maybe with the inspection information she just became a lot more confident and a lot more lax. Overall she seems very involved too which makes me feel like she is town, but I think she is a good enough player to string us along too

 

[f11]

If a townie gets roleblocked do they get notified ?

No.

 

[toadsworthy]

@Toads I'm being confirmed tonight lol. Also you never answered my question.

@Seroja I dont think you're sus. But I think you need to get thrown in the poe here because you're not lock town, yknow?

Tbh out of everyone I think Amanda is the most likely. She's been kinda distanced imo. Panda's essentially cleared bc of how actions work, Uttu I townread + the block. Idk why Toads would out fellow scum, and I townread Seroja and Ayaya. That leaves only amanda unless its Kirby I suppose.

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Also, for what its worth, I may adopt this new playstyle for future games. Gotta say I'm enjoying the game a lot playing this way.

For future games, now that I have mafia meta too, I'm going to find it hard to distinguish my play style between the two. the reason I did so well in themeless was because I just copied what I did before and everyone thought I was typical town toads. But now if I do that, people will just not know what to do with me and lynch me early each time lol. someone had brought that up in this game.... I would like to think there are probably subtle differences in my play style that I just don't recognize myself

 

[Arstotzkan]

For future games, now that I have mafia meta too, I'm going to find it hard to distinguish my play style between the two. the reason I did so well in themeless was because I just copied what I did before and everyone thought I was typical town toads. But now if I do that, people will just not know what to do with me and lynch me early each time lol. someone had brought that up in this game.... I would like to think there are probably subtle differences in my play style that I just don't recognize myself

To be fair, a good player tries to make their town and scum play as similar as it can be, and for the players who've mastered that (Abe/Dolby come to mind), they're not autolynched. People are just more weary of townreading someone good at hiding their allignment.

On the otherhand, take Ness. Bless the pineapple's heart, but if memory serves, hes extrememly aggressive as mafia and more rational as town. That makes being confident in his town play easier, but its a lot harder to do well as mafia for him.

 

[toadsworthy]

then in luigi's mansion i tried to make myself seem different from themeless so people would think I'm town and that blew up in my face lol

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To be fair, a good player tries to make their town and scum play as similar as it can be, and for the players who've mastered that (Abe/Dolby come to mind), they're not autolynched. People are just more weary of townreading someone good at hiding their allignment.

On the otherhand, take Ness. Bless the pineapple's heart, but if memory serves, hes extrememly aggressive as mafia and more rational as town. That makes being confident in his town play easier, but its a lot harder to do well as mafia for him.

I guess thats true, Abe does say that all the time...

 

[Arstotzkan]

I dont wanna boost the guy's ego too much beyond the grave ( :^) ) but I think Abe's play in general is very close to optimal. There's a lot to learn from him. The only critique I'd have is that he's reliant on meta, but yeah, he and Dolby are two very good examples of being able to blend both metas together very well.

I'd say it's one of my weaknesses, which I'm working on slowly rip

 

[Kirbystarship]

I could see Amanda as scum but I don't think it is likely. But she is a good scum player.

 

[Seroja]

Ok now I'm inclined to believe that Panda is really town because a godfather could be considered as role with actions right (unless gf is considered no action role)? Because they can send in kills? What do you guys think?

@Toads I actually really think you're town but I'm paranoid. Kat is getting inspected so there's that.

@Kat I understand. You all can throw me in the lynch pool but as for my own poe I know that I'm town. With the latest info on roleblocking, I think the two most likely candidates are Uttumori and Amanda.

My standing now is that I fully believe Karen's and Kirby's claims. Dolby is no doubt the Oracle. Kat is the unlyncher until proven otherwise. Panda is most likely town.

If Brijade is scum then she's damn good for being able to play like genuine new town tbh. The only thing that clears Amanda right nos is Brijade's playstyle. I agree Amanda herself isn't doing much to maintain that town vibe.

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Right now I'm betting my money on Uttumori (on the off chance that both Silver and Mori was around at the time Kirby posted who he was roleblocking.)

 

[KermitTea]

Would it be better to comment now or later?

I'm not sure which is why I asked in the first place haha

 

[Seroja]

I'm not sure which is why I asked in the first place haha

then I think you should just share what you think because it might help us pin the last scum. right now we might have overlooked something.