Mafia TBT Mafia ~ The Binding of Isaac ~ Town Wins!

[N e s s]

Hm in all seriousness though, I'd imagine both teams would be balenced in number. If anything, I could see the sins having one more if they don't have KP... But its probably the same regardless. I could see a 3/3/rest of town tbh. For reference, Papers Please maf had only like 5 less people (iirc) and there were 6 baddies there (and one was a lover anyway) so having two organized teams makes a little more sense to make up for the few extra players plus the powers they have seem pretty strong so. Thats why Im thinking 3/3.

@Ness Was there a reason behind you putting more people on the mafian team than on the sins?

Not really, i'm just figured that there would be 3 or maybe 4? I've never really played a game with 2 mafia teams so i'm just confused a bit lol.

In all honesty though, there could be an equal teams. I keep forgetting that we're at like 23 players and not 18, so I had the thought in my head of there being 7 scum players in total.

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Runeraider ya its unfavorable to town but at the same time Mafia Team A can target Mafia Team B and take them out as well and vise versa.

so just to clarify we have Scum Team A: Mafia or in this game "The Horrors" and Scum Team B: Third Party "The Sins" and then the rest of us are "Victims" (Townies and Blue Roles)

Correct.

But imo 5-6 mafian teams seems unfair since that'd mean 8-10 town and 6 scum per team and 6 KP per night. Feels like it'd be a ****fest.

Not really, i'm just figured that there would be 3 or maybe 4? I've never really played a game with 2 mafia teams so i'm just confused a bit lol.

In all honesty though, there could be an equal teams. I keep forgetting that we're at like 23 players and not 18, so I had the thought in my head of there being 7 scum players in total.

11 town and 7 scum feels like a pretty scary balance for town though. Say we mislynch and get hit by all scum KP N1. We'd already have less people than the scum.

I could see anywhere from 6-8 for 23 people though.

 

[illunie]

Holy ****.

Even in a single faction mafia though, town far outnumbers scum. I'd imagine that trend would stay consistant?

Town will still outnumber mafia, but the focus is usually on the mafia vs mafia interactions rather than the town vs mafia in my experience.

 

[PandaDarling]

Correct.

But imo 5-6 mafian teams seems unfair since that'd mean 8-10 town and 6 scum per team and 6 KP per night. Feels like it'd be a ****fest.

11 town and 7 scum feels like a pretty scary balance for town though. Say we mislynch and get hit by all scum KP N1. We'd already have less people than the scum.

I could see anywhere from 6-8 for 23 people though.

Ya but Mafia team would only have 3 KP at night and then the Third Party team only have a few KP that work a certain way and have certain circumstances.... like Lust that pretty much just works like arsonist spreading an infection player to player and then mass killing them when releasing a 'virus' and then Pride that can commit the perfect murder once with no evidence, and Wrath that can pretty much turn one of us 'goodies' into a 'baddie' and make us kill someone. and then also please keep your eyes open for Greed i think their role can be pretty damaging to town given that person knows how to use it without getting caught. i don't think its unreasonable to think the teams would have 5 members each. they would only be about to get 3-4 kills a night unless the Third Party team can all use there roles at once and kill half the players off. haha GAME OVER.

 

[oath2order]

Reminder that mafia can only have 3 KP max, and goes down if they decide to use another ability.

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3 KP going off the 3 KKP mentioned by panda that is

 

[Arstotzkan]

the Third Party team only have a few KP that work a certain way and have certain circumstances

How do you know that they aren't given KP for sure? They could act like Chub in that they have their KP unless they use their abilities as well.

 

[PandaDarling]

How do you know that they aren't given KP for sure? They could act like Chub in that they have their KP unless they use their abilities as well.

@Sarasakat well i guess we can't know for sure but going off of the Role Descriptions some of them have KP the ones i mentioned and the others just seem to have multiple lives or can switch/ steal items and possibly transport players so it switches actions on them.Thats kinda weird that you seem to randomly try to relate anything i said to the mafia role Chub after going back and reading the description i still don't know what you are trying to say or tie that to. It says Chub only has an active ability not a passive ability

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Sarasakat well i guess we can't know for sure but going off of the Role Descriptions some of them have KP the ones i mentioned and the others just seem to have multiple lives or can switch/ steal items and possibly transport players so it switches actions on them.Thats kinda weird that you seem to randomly try to relate anything i said to the mafia role Chub after going back and reading the description i still don't know what you are trying to say or tie that to. It says Chub only has an active ability not a passive ability

Isn't that what ties the two together? Mafia can't use Chubs for KP if Chubs uses an action. Likewise, in the case that 3rd party has KP, they wouldn't be able to use, say, Pride for example to kill. Even though both have actions that kill, it doesn't tie them to the potential or lack there of for a faction to have a faction wide KP. Does that make sense?

 

[N e s s]

Isn't that what ties the two together? Mafia can't use Chubs for KP if Chubs uses an action. Likewise, in the case that 3rd party has KP, they wouldn't be able to use, say, Pride for example to kill. Even though both have actions that kill, it doesn't tie them to the potential or lack there of for a faction to have a faction wide KP. Does that make sense?

Uh

it didn't say that chub won't contribute to KP if he used an action in the role description

 

[PandaDarling]

Isn't that what ties the two together? Mafia can't use Chubs for KP if Chubs uses an action. Likewise, in the case that 3rd party has KP, they wouldn't be able to use, say, Pride for example to kill. Even though both have actions that kill, it doesn't tie them to the potential or lack there of for a faction to have a faction wide KP. Does that make sense?

@Saraskat oh i think i know what you are saying ... like if the Mafia team had 5 members their KP would be 3 but if 1 of those members choose to use their ability at night, then they don't count towards their teams total KP and the teams KP would then drop to 2 for that night ? and your saying the same for Third Party ? but what im wondering is if the Third Party gets a basic number of KP a night outside their Active Abilities (like the Mafia team) ? or do they strictly have to rely on their abilities

 

[Arstotzkan]

Uh

it didn't say that chub won't contribute to KP if he used an action in the role description

Each night phase, they may then use ONE item or power - Not multiple.
Please note that scum using KP counts as an action in this game and can thus not be combined with any additional powers they may possess - You select which person will perform each kill, and they are thus unable to use any other powers or items they may own that same night. You also cannot send the same scum member to carry out multiple of your KP kills. Choose carefully.
Furthermore, there is two different scum teams. They have to eliminate each other in order to win the game.

Yeah but it says so here. Chubs's power is a power - they can't be used for KP.

Surprised you pressed me on that and not Oath when we basically said the same thing. ?\_(ツ)_/?

 

[Heyden]

why are we arguing about KP can we just look for scum

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Saraskat oh i think i know what you are saying ... like if the Mafia team had 5 members their KP would be 3 but if 1 of those members choose to use their ability at night, then they don't count towards their teams total KP and the teams KP would then drop to 2 for that night ? and your saying the same for Third Party ? but what im wondering is if the Third Party gets a basic number of KP a night outside their Active Abilities (like the Mafia team) ? or do they strictly have to rely on their abilities

That's the golden question! I assumed in your post that I first pressed you on that you were saying it was for sure the latter, which confused me as to how you knew that.

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why are we arguing about KP can we just look for scum

Hey, if you've got a scumread on anybody, feel free to make a case.

 

[Ayaya]

why are we arguing about KP can we just look for scum

My thoughts exactly. We could deduce how much KP they have after N1 anyway so discussing this now won't really help much, though at least it got a discussion going.

Waiting for other players to say more, and particularly Lucanosa on why they voted for Daniel (like it could be just a random vote but why Daniel of all people?)

I'll look further at the KP discussion later cause I think scum is more likely to participate in it so they look like they're contributing when the discussion of KP won't help (especially if they can misled town through night kills with it). Gotta do something else for today.

 

[Arstotzkan]

My thoughts exactly. We could deduce how much KP they have after N1 anyway so discussing this now won't really help much, though at least it got a discussion going.

Waiting for other players to say more, and particularly Lucanosa on why they voted for Daniel (like it could be just a random vote but why Daniel of all people?)

Thing is if discussion isn't about KP and the potential set up, what would it be about? Everyone commenting that they exist and waiting for Luca to explain himself? Discussion would go no where and all reads would be based off of "hey" and "ooh Luca's baaad" posts. Idk about you guys, but in talking about the set up, I'm scum hunting.

Agreed on wanting to hear more from others/Luca point though.

 

[PandaDarling]

why are we arguing about KP can we just look for scum

@doughssant yep go for it, what do you think we are trying to do ? im trying to get people involved in conversation so we can scumhunt.

That's the golden question! I assumed in your post that I first pressed you on that you were saying it was for sure the latter, which confused me as to how you knew that.

@Sarasakat oh i see, no i was just speculating, trying to get people thinking and conversing, so we can get information flowing.

My thoughts exactly. We could deduce how much KP they have after N1 anyway so discussing this now won't really help much, though at least it got a discussion going.

Waiting for other players to say more, and particularly Lucanosa on why they voted for Daniel (like it could be just a random vote but why Daniel of all people?)

I'll look further at the KP discussion later cause I think scum is more likely to participate in it so they look like they're contributing when the discussion of KP won't help (especially if they can misled town through night kills with it). Gotta do something else for today.

@Ayaya i understand that discussion about KP atm might not be the best but i liked that it was opening up conversation between us and also i think it could help the new players so they can understand the game set up a little more.

 

[glow]

Omg, I didn't know this started lmao I'm reading through the thread rn. soz I've been super busy lately with midterms but I'm finally gonna be on spring break soon so I should have plenty enough time now

 

[Heyden]

HI PANDA IM BORED

 

[PandaDarling]

HI PANDA IM BORED

Hey im just reviewing the posts so far... any general thoughts on the game/ players/ set up so far ?

 

[Heyden]

Hey im just reviewing the posts so far... any general thoughts on the game/ players/ set up so far ?

not really, its 2 scum teams and a 3rd party teams and I assume they would all be equal or close to equal so I think it would be like 2-3 people per team bc it would be too op with more people but idk, ive never played with a third party team and/or 2 scum teams soooo.

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wait am i reading wrong i thought there were 2 mafia teams and a third party team