Mafia TBT Mafia XI: Person of Interest END

[Ashtot]

The thing between me, Pally and River is indeed likely just a miscommunication - It is true that Pally did not LITERALLY say I should keep my guard up but she implied that it would be a wise move, or at least that's how I read it. She did say that River may want revenge on me for the previous game. I hope that we can all move on and focus on the CURRENT game now though. (And for new players, Pally = Princess)

Onwards to discussing the lynch target: Two of the people I called out for inactivity yesterday still has not truly contributed.


As BellBringerGreen said, Pofer was actually one of the people on TBT with the highest total post count yesterday so this reply is quite silly. He said he would catch up with the thread and then spent another 10 or so hours lurking the Villager Trading Plaza, never returning to make another post here in the Mafia game. I find him to be a good candidate simply because I doubt he will ever really add any value (Sorry if that seems harsh..) and if he's scum he could be super dangerous, just posting enough to not get modkilled but never really being at the forefront of anyone's mind.


And then there's our beloved Justin, who I understand is a very busy man - But last time he played this passively in the SuperNatural Mafia, he was scum. And it took us a long time to find him simply because he was flying under the radar and because he made a clever Vigilante claim on Day 2. I'd really like to hear more from him ASAP if possible.

SuperPenguin's role claim might be adding up (Because would you really fake claim the main character of the show..?), even though he is annoying. He probably finds me just as annoying as I find him to be. So we'll let that slide, I suppose. I did withdraw my vote for him yesterday already.

I still don't think No Lynch is the best idea, unless we actually have a powerful town role that can only operate if there's not been any lynches made during the day? Such roles are not completely unheard of, I believe. Otherwise, I still suggest we vote for the most suspicious person around, or for Pofer if he doesn't contribute more.

I agree that a no lynch is not the best idea. If we do not lynch, what will happen? Nothing. so we'll go into night using actions completely blindly and have no evidence on anybody. Essentially, a no lynch is just wasting time, and making it extremely easy for Mafia to hide.

If we go through with a lynch, someone dies, and we get information. This information will help, even if only slightly, to find scum, and give us some actual info to use when using night actions. If we get rid of a distraction, then there is no downside, regardless of alignment. Our job is to eliminate threats to town, and a threat to town is not limited only to a scum team. There have been many instances in the past when town has had to get rid of their own teammates for the good of the team.

I urge you all to reconsider, and nominate someone for a lynch.

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After seeing some things that i missed in the thread and checking through some past games, i now feel like we shouldn't lynch oath and should lynch an inactive or somebody with poor post quality. Not included are inactives with good post quality (i made some exemptions for a few beginers). The ones that come right to mind are
Justin
Smb3master
Pofer
CrimsonFireWolf
Benjmy

Justin
In supernatural mafia, Justin didn't post at all on day one, so far, he had to be pmed and his only post was this


If you look at his profile and activity, and if you take in mario kart 8 playing, you will find that he had had time to post in the thread, the similarities in posting record between now and supernatural mafia in terms of activity make him the person that i most want to lynch

Pofer
Top ten poster on the forums, clearly has time to most in the thread, i think Pofer is either a disintrested townie or mafia. This:

was Pofer's only post
smb3master
Replacement needed? The last time smb3master was online was before the game started

CrimsonFireWolf
If town, it seems like he will be a major distraction

Benmjy
Only time that it appears that he attempted to be useful was when superpenguin said there was eight scum.

Of these five i am most willing to lynch Justin and Pofer

I'm also in favour of either Justin or Pofer for a lynch.

 

[Kammeh]

I think Pofer should be lynched. It's been previously stated that they are very active on TBT, but have been ignoring this thread almost completely.
Or we could wait until he/she is modkilled for not posting?..

 

[Yui Z]

I agree that, out of those people, Pofer would be the best option. They haven't really shown much interest in the game anyway so far, and never posted again after they said they'd read through. Justin should be kept an eye so that we don't overlook anything by mistake, but I don't think we should lynch him just yet. I found it kind of strange how both Justin and Pofer both pretty much did the same thing.

It's possible that Pofer could be scared mafia too, since this has happened before in other games.

 

[Feloreena]

I think Pofer should be lynched. It's been previously stated that they are very active on TBT, but have been ignoring this thread almost completely.
Or we could wait until he/she is modkilled for not posting?..

If Pofer continues to post the bare minimum they won't be modkilled (as far as I know), and then they will just be useless to town unless they can step up their game significantly. Day ends in just over 7 hours, so if we are going to lynch a target we need to come to a final decision fairly soon or no lynch will win. Pofer is useless either way because he is clearly on TBT a lot but completely ignoring the thread for whatever reason. Justin could be hiding as scum, but I still feel he might be a more valuable player than Pofer overall if he is actually town. Therefore I am leaning more towards Pofer at this time, unless either of them can post something useful before the day ends. I think I'll vote for Pofer now, and I am willing to unvote if he gives me a good reason to.

 

[Beary]

I personally think it would be smarter to let Pofer get modkilled, and lynch someone who will be more or a burden or distraction. Many of the new players have only posted 1 or 2 times. Pofer may be disinterested townie, or scared mafia, as Yui Z said. When I was mafia, I was quiet and withdrawn, scared to do anything. I've also been disinterested townie, and didn't contribute at all. Either could be the case, but we could save a lynch if we let Pofer get modkilled.

 

[Yui Z]

I personally think it would be smarter to let Pofer get modkilled, and lynch someone who will be more or a burden or distraction. Many of the new players have only posted 1 or 2 times. Pofer may be disinterested townie, or scared mafia, as Yui Z said. When I was mafia, I was quiet and withdrawn, scared to do anything. I've also been disinterested townie, and didn't contribute at all. Either could be the case, but we could save a lynch if we let Pofer get modkilled.

They won't be modkilled if they're just posting the bear minimum, which is what Pofer is doing. c:

 

[Beary]

They won't be modkilled if they're just posting the bear minimum, which is what Pofer is doing. c:

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. This convinces me that Pofer would be the best option. Lets hope that he/she isn't a blue role trying to hide ;-;

 

[Cory]

Tom, can you post the current votes please?

 

[Sataric]

There does seem to be a lot of support for the Pofer idea - He does seem to be the safest target to go for somehow. He's a high-risk, low-reward player at this point because he could definitely be a frightened Mafia member trying to stay out of the spotlight due to being inexperienced with the game, and if we let him slide by now and settle for a No Lynch instead we'd always have to worry about him and possibly waste a vigilante shot on him later. If he turns out to be town, it would not be a great loss either, seeing as I doubt he really intends to contribute much either way. There is definitely a few other players that are quite inactive and/or suspicious but Pofer seems like the best pick right now so that's where my vote will fall.

 

[Alice]

There does seem to be a lot of support for the Pofer idea - He does seem to be the safest target to go for somehow. He's a high-risk, low-reward player at this point because he could definitely be a frightened Mafia member trying to stay out of the spotlight due to being inexperienced with the game, and if we let him slide by now and settle for a No Lynch instead we'd always have to worry about him and possibly waste a vigilante shot on him later. If he turns out to be town, it would not be a great loss either, seeing as I doubt he really intends to contribute much either way. There is definitely a few other players that are quite inactive and/or suspicious but Pofer seems like the best pick right now so that's where my vote will fall.

You're not contributing much either, my friend. Look at all that fluff text. It's a chore to read through everything you say in some games. could you please start trimming down the useless information in your posts? Stating the obvious doesn't really get us anywhere.

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Justin
In supernatural mafia, Justin didn't post at all on day one, so far, he had to be pmed and his only post was this

I'm not following on Justin. Justin's usually pretty active, even if he's scum, and I know because I've been scum with him in Mafia X. Having a lot of time doesn't always equate to a willingness to play on some days. There are times when you opt for something a little more... stimulating. Mafia can be fun, but it's not fun all the time. Especially on day one.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Besides, you're one to talk, Dolby.

 

[Sataric]

You're not contributing much either, my friend. Look at all that fluff text. It's a chore to read through everything you say in some games. could you please start trimming down the useless information in your posts? Stating the obvious doesn't really get us anywhere.

There may be a lot of fluff in my posting style and I am sorry that it annoys you, but saying that my posts doesn't get us anywhere isn't particularly fair - I am trying harder than most to contribute, and I am bringing up suspicions and making lists of those who are inactive and calling people out to get them talking, etc. Just skim through my posts if you cannot be bothered to read every word - But as someone posted out in an earlier game, the fact that I use so many words make it easier to spot slip ups if I'd ever be scum in a game, so there's advantages for town in the fluff to some extent.

 

[Ashtot]

You're not contributing much either, my friend. Look at all that fluff text. It's a chore to read through everything you say in some games. could you please start trimming down the useless information in your posts? Stating the obvious doesn't really get us anywhere.

This is a joke right?

Sataric has been trying to actually help town and is doing a great job.

How about instead of just attacking players for no reason you actually help town? All you're doing is making stupid comments on how "bad" everyone is.

 

[Alice]

There may be a lot of fluff in my posting style and I am sorry that it annoys you, but saying that my posts doesn't get us anywhere isn't particularly fair - I am trying harder than most to contribute, and I am bringing up suspicions and making lists of those who are inactive and calling people out to get them talking, etc. Just skim through my posts if you cannot be bothered to read every word - But as someone posted out in an earlier game, the fact that I use so many words make it easier to spot slip ups if I'd ever be scum in a game, so there's advantages for town in the fluff to some extent.

The problem is that your reads are essentially what's circulating at the time. You're taking what everyone else is saying and regurgitating it. I don't see how you're trying when all you is basically run what people say through your head and just agree or disagree without providing any other information. There's no real advantage to fluff. If you are using it as a tactic, it's a really boring tactic, and it makes me want to ignore you in the long run.

 

[Ashtot]

The problem is that your reads are essentially what's circulating at the time. You're taking what everyone else is saying and regurgitating it. I don't see how you're trying when all you is basically run what people say through your head and just agree or disagree without providing any other information. There's no real advantage to fluff. If you are using it as a tactic, it's a really boring tactic, and it makes me want to ignore you in the long run.

There's nothing wrong with reiterating already known information. It helps everyone gather their thoughts, and is especially useful when there are pages of spam between actual important posts. Please stop being overly critical and just do something, there's no need to make the posts that you're posting. You're just wasting space.

 

[Alice]

This is a joke right?

Sataric has been trying to actually help town and is doing a great job.

How about instead of just attacking players for no reason you actually help town? All you're doing is making stupid comments on how "bad" everyone is.

What? You're clearly not paying attention to what I've been saying as a whole, just what I'm saying that you don't like. I find it heavily ironic that he's asking people to stop making distractions when he's a walking distraction himself.

 

[Sataric]

The problem is that your reads are essentially what's circulating at the time. You're taking what everyone else is saying and regurgitating it. I don't see how you're trying when all you is basically run what people say through your head and just agree or disagree without providing any other information. There's no real advantage to fluff. If you are using it as a tactic, it's a really boring tactic, and it makes me want to ignore you in the long run.

Well, I think it's pretty evident that I am trying my best - And the fact that you say that I am not contributing when some other people have barely posted at all, and several people have made tons of posts that were useless and even unrelated to the game for the most part, just makes it seem like you have a personal issue with me. Sometimes I do agree or disagree with others, and sometimes I am a little insecure about some of my conclusions because I am still rather new, but for the most part I am forwarding my own original ideas and then discussing those. I was the one who brought the inactive list forward. I was the one who asked Pofer to post in the thread in the first place. And now I was the one who said I felt that he'd be a better choice than a No Lynch first, which other people then agree with. How is that not contributing?

 

[Ashtot]

What? You're clearly not paying attention to what I've been saying as a whole, just what I'm saying that you don't like. I find it heavily ironic that he's asking people to stop making distractions when he's a walking distraction himself.

Alice, how exactly is he a walking distraction, and so many other REAL distractions aren't, in your eyes?

I'm getting extremely scummy vibes from you. You're constantly harassing a person who is actually trying and making good posts, yet you call him a distraction. Why hold back from calling out spammer and people who actual just post one-liner thoughts that are irrelevant? Why so much hate for Sataric? You're digging yourself a whole here.

 

[Alice]

Well, I think it's pretty evident that I am trying my best - And the fact that you say that I am not contributing when some other people have barely posted at all, and several people have made tons of posts that were useless and even unrelated to the game for the most part, just makes it seem like you have a personal issue with me. Sometimes I do agree or disagree with others, and sometimes I am a little insecure about some of my conclusions because I am still rather new, but for the most part I am forwarding my own original ideas and then discussing those. I was the one who brought the inactive list forward. I was the one who asked Pofer to post in the thread in the first place. And now I was the one who said I felt that he'd be a better choice than a No Lynch first, which other people then agree with. How is that not contributing?

I'm trying to spur you on. I want you to do a little more outside of the box reasoning. A play-style should never remain too static. It makes you far too predictable. Make yourself hard to read.

 

[Jennifer]

I think voting for Pofer is a bit silly. They may have posted a lot elsewhere, but it's also their first game and they may just not realize how much it requires in that field just yet. It just seems a bit over-exaggerated to jump the gun so quickly on them.

 

[Alice]

I think voting for Pofer is a bit silly. They may have posted a lot elsewhere, but it's also their first game and they may just not realize how much it requires in that field just yet. It just seems a bit over-exaggerated to jump the gun so quickly on them.

N'aw, Pofer's a pretty safe lynch. They don't seem to want to play and if they post bare minimum they'll just end up as dead weight. Town or no, there's really no sense in going no lynch now that evidence has been brought forward that pofer is ignoring the game. We've lynched dolby countless times for this.