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This is pretty much exhibit A, B, C, and D of why I do think Moron is scum. This is the same thing Pally did when she got caught in AC mafia. As soon as her back was up against a wall, she voted for herself. If you were truly town aligned, you would NEVER vote for yourself, even if others are. That proves nothing other than the fact that you don't care (if you're town) or that you've given up (if you're mafia).
Post #995 explains why I'm doing it and why I think getting myself lynched could make more of a difference now than much difference I can make later on in the game. And never say never, you'll see something new this game, obviously.
Can you please just shut the **** up? I get that you're trying to be this "I'm so good at mafia in your face in your face" type of player, but it's already old. If you and Moron have played mafia before together, then you're both NOT newbies. Someone with half a brain can go back and analyze their behavior in previous games and purposefully try to act differently. I've done it and so has everyone that has played mafia before. You weren't around for the whole Trundle + Ashtot thing, but let me be the first to tell you that defending someone JUST because you have an out of game friendship with them is going to give you a bad time. People are surprisingly deceptive. Moron is in hot water because he ran straight to you and told you sensitive information + didn't have any log proof. No amount of *****ing at people will make them forget that.
Someone's mad. How is him leaking "sensitive" information scummy? SP even said that he was "reaction testing" and because Moron doesn't believe him doesn't make Moron scummy at all. Lets say that SP is truly scum and Moron never outed SP's false claims. What do you think would happen then? If you look back I posted logs of what happened when he tried to copy and paste. Feelorena even stated that screenshots weren't allowed so Moron was ****ed in this sense and easily taken advantage of by SP. I don't believe that Moron is scum, but instead I'm leaning on him being a PR (blue) despite his XCOM Rookie claims.
Someone's mad. How is him leaking "sensitive" information scummy? SP even said that he was "reaction testing" and because Moron doesn't believe him doesn't make Moron scummy at all. Lets say that SP is truly scum and Moron never outed SP's false claims. What do you think would happen then? If you look back I posted logs of what happened when he tried to copy and paste. Feelorena even stated that screenshots weren't allowed so Moron was ****ed in this sense and easily taken advantage of by SP. I don't believe that Moron is scum, but instead I'm leaning on him being a PR (blue) despite his XCOM Rookie claims.
Aerious, I have to ask though. Why are you so convinced of Moron being a townie, despite the fact that people do change their playstyles depending on the game?
Someone's mad. How is him leaking "sensitive" information scummy? SP even said that he was "reaction testing" and because Moron doesn't believe him doesn't make Moron scummy at all. Lets say that SP is truly scum and Moron never outed SP's false claims. What do you think would happen then? If you look back I posted logs of what happened when he tried to copy and paste. Feelorena even stated that screenshots weren't allowed so Moron was ****ed in this sense and easily taken advantage of by SP. I don't believe that Moron is scum, but instead I'm leaning on him being a PR (blue) despite his XCOM Rookie claims.
I'm not even mad. This is my usual demeanor. Does Moron lack the fingers to transcribe it into the thread? Copy pasting is just that - copy pasting. You can doctor the logs or omit sentences. He should have just transcribed the text down if it was really that important. If you believe Moron is blue, I would expect you to be way more up in arms about him voting for himself. It's one thing to play stupid as a townie, but another entirely to kill yourself as a blue. I personally don't believe Moron is blue at all. He still looks panicked to me.
I'm leaning more towards Capella than I am moron. Albeit, Moron's said and some some pretty sketchy crap, Capella's been a downright useless player. She isn't really defending herself, either. It seems like excuse, after excuse, after excuse. She's useless, no matter which way you spin it.
Aerious, I have to ask though. Why are you so convinced of Moron being a townie, despite the fact that people do change their playstyles depending on the game?
I'm not even mad. This is my usual demeanor. Does Moron lack the fingers to transcribe it into the thread? Copy pasting is just that - copy pasting. You can doctor the logs or omit sentences. He should have just transcribed the text down if it was really that important. If you believe Moron is blue, I would expect you to be way more up in arms about him voting for himself. It's one thing to play stupid as a townie, but another entirely to kill yourself as a blue. I personally don't believe Moron is blue at all. He still looks panicked to me.
For the thousandth ****ing time, this IS NOT EPIC MAFIA. STOP PLAYING THIS LIKE IT'S EPIC MAFIA. It's ****ing NOT.
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When you have a very clear difference between the games, in this case, what a blue is defined as, then you need to learn to adapt your goddamn playstyle and stop acting like this is Epic Mafia.
Has anyone else tried contacting Capella in the irc or pms after all these allegations? Like even if you had no further interactions with Noodle, you totally should be in here more :'l
you always seem so excited to play, I just want you to have a good time honestly...
Lots to read again this morning - Here are some of my thoughts:
I do not appreciate how people that were present in the thread for many many hours while I was around and actively posting decide that they "find me scummy" all of a sudden shortly after I announce that I am going to bed. Why didn't you say anything while I was around to defend myself? I am looking at Ashtot primary when I say this.
Secondly, I was very suspicious of Oath2Order AT FIRST. As I said in the PM exchange, I talked about him with Tina, and she was very adamant in defending him and said she really thought he was innocent, and that they were working close together. I figured that if one of them flipped scum, the other might as well. But Tina flipped town, and that made me A LOT less suspicious of Oath. Furthermore, the Watcher checked Oath last night and he did not visit anyone. That makes it very unlikely that he'd be an Alien. He could still be EXALT though. But I think he may be innocent, to be honest.
~@ CookingOkasan - At first you seemed really against SP and his playstyle. Then when he brought up Moron, you were very quick to transform into his personal cheerleader, more or less. I find that really confusing. These are the posts I am refering to:
None of these posts contribute with a whole lot to the conversation and all they really do is say "Yes, let's lynch Moron!" repeatedly. Personally I am not completely convinced that Moron is scum becauses I feel like it was Aerious contributions to the conversation that really made him look the most suspicious, besides him voting for himself eventually. I truly wonder why you seemed so eager to jump on board with shutting him down when other people have been brought forward as suspicious multiple times yet I've never seen you so passionate about getting them voted out before?
i feel like we overlooked something in noodle's will
MissNoodle's Last Will:
"So I want to start by saying that I had a hard role and I had no idea what to do. I have started Pming Cap and Oath. If either is scum, the other is too. Thanks. I'm just gonna rise up to heaven now."
i think that there is something that oath and capella are not telling us about their exchanges with noodle. i dunno if noodle is right on this, but it does seem like we have the possibility to hit two scum now, and yet we are considering moron for lynch instead.
~@8floor - It seems unlikely that Oath is on the Alien team. Capella still might be. However, I don't think that both of them are for reasons I posted earlier.
MewMewMewM~ is also acting incredibly strange this game. I've said that multiple times before and I don't want to repeat myself too much - But the fact that her name has been brought up so much yet not much discussion has kicked off about her only adds to my suspicion, as her fellow scum team might want to take her name out of the spotlight.
As of right now, I am leaning towards voting for Capella or MewMew.
The snideness is probably from getting used to SP's annoying new demeanor and just being disliked by a majority of "veteran" players for "trying to hard".
I would say that statement is 100% accurate. I was really trying to be nice during the first few days of my first game and that didn't do me any good. After a while the frustration just catches up with you.
For the thousandth ****ing time, this IS NOT EPIC MAFIA. STOP PLAYING THIS LIKE IT'S EPIC MAFIA. It's ****ing NOT.
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When you have a very clear difference between the games, in this case, what a blue is defined as, then you need to learn to adapt your goddamn playstyle and stop acting like this is Epic Mafia.
Whatever the case is with epicmafia, this is not it and it was completely irrelevant and pointless to even bring it up. Anyways after reading several times I CAN FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEANT by Moron not being town but being blue. You need to word **** better because you confused Oath and started another pointless brief fight.
Aerious: It's because you keep saying Blue isn't town. You need to say Blue isn't townie because that's the actual role name, town is used to collectively consider.. all.. town roles. INCLUDING BLUES
Also you said this but i cbf to quote: "How is him leaking "sensitive" information scummy?"
umm isn't that contradictory lol. Of course leaking role information is bad :/ hence why Tina doesn't like the whole roleclaiming thing, it always ends up in mafia/3rd party's hands. I'm not saying you are Aliens/EXALT but this is just why she hates it =p it gets passed on and on somehow.
anyway I don't really know where I stand but I find Mormon looking bad (sorry i hate the word scummy) and Capella as well but I honestly just find her looking moreso so I'll probably vote for her later. sorry cap ily
I'm leaning more towards Capella than I am moron. Albeit, Moron's said and some some pretty sketchy crap, Capella's been a downright useless player. She isn't really defending herself, either. It seems like excuse, after excuse, after excuse. She's useless, no matter which way you spin it.
>Calls me useless
>Only has 2 posts
Okay I don't know why people are being sus of me right now.
I already showed my conversation with noodle, what else can I do ?
you guys are all salty wowe!!!!
now that aerious said that Moron {may} be blue {well idk if i trust it completely} and i'm still not too sus of Moron, we'd have a better chance w/ Cap, so..ye..idk if i'll vote tho, we'll see.
also aerious u dont need to curse every paragraph but i dont tell u what to do so
