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Mafia TBT Switch Mafia (Long Days and Nights)- ENDGAME @Page 120- Town Wins

I agree that Evan was very scummy, but I often lean scum for him anyway. However I have to go on my analysis of this game, and I feel very strongly that Dad wouldn't have said so much about how similar his and Evan's reads were to the point of basing his read on him about it if they were scum-paired. Ain't nobody would let that continue to fly in any sort of game

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I think its a stupid jump decision lynch and not well thought out

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Plus like everyone else is just going with it, which doesn't sit well either.

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One more vote and Evan reaches Maj by the way. Which maybe take that off so we can bring up this new thought too? otherwise a random can just waltz in and do it.

I will literally vote Evan to reach maj to at least lynch him, but I'm not gonna do it right away. I want to have everyone look at what I'm saying first though since I just rose from the grave in this game
 
do you mean Evan? not temptations?

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I'm sorry, but Evan isn't sold to me just based on that flip flop at the end.... we've all made questionable decisions on EoD, and more times than not we've been wrong when we throw out the rest of the game and focus a "scum lock" like this and how you're treating it. Think a little bit more before just committing based on that alone.

I?ve been on Evan/Dad for a long time, and not just as a reaction to the non-lynch that happened. The way that Evan held Dad in his reads (particularly in his early D1 posts) is highly conductive of how he typically reads strong teammates. Dads SR of Evan early on in N0 I believ was intended to be a bus in case he Dad was killed that night and intended to make him viewed as more town. Since then, despite increasingly scummy behavior, Evan CONSISTANTLY rose through Dads reads (it wasn?t just the ?GoaT? post)

I do agree that Antonio still works well on the scum team, with both of them, but there?s no way that Evans not mafia. If he?s SK or town I?ll eat a pile of hats

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I think this is “true maj” and not insta that means day ends at the same time rather than instantly achieved I gueds
 
Toads, you have some valid thoughts (especially on the inactivity being a weak main point) What do you think of Unravel (in general) and the argument punchy and temptations had last night?

I see where you’re trying to get at with temptations, but I’m leaning more towards him not being scum bc of the whole conversation that he and I had over his self vote. While I initially said his idea of a self lynch was a scummy move, his response comes off as more genuine. I see him more as misguided town/possible SK but probably not scum

I definitely disagree on you with punchy being scum for reasons I’ve stated before
 
And personally, despite frequent interaction, I see nothing that would make Evan appear gown in the Evan/Dad interactions besides self-awareness every now and then. N1 I see was entirely preparing to try to lynch me. I actually see his first vote on Dad as more scummy than his second failed vote, as he was clinging to him strongly and it felt that he didn’t want to be left off the wagon
 
I’ve been on Evan/Dad for a long time, and not just as a reaction to the non-lynch that happened. The way that Evan held Dad in his reads (particularly in his early D1 posts) is highly conductive of how he typically reads strong teammates. Dads SR of Evan early on in N0 I believ was intended to be a bus in case he Dad was killed that night and intended to make him viewed as more town. Since then, despite increasingly scummy behavior, Evan CONSISTANTLY rose through Dads reads (it wasn’t just the “GoaT” post)

I do agree that Antonio still works well on the scum team, with both of them, but there’s no way that Evans not mafia. If he’s SK or town I’ll eat a pile of hats

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I think this is “true maj” and not insta that means day ends at the same time rather than instantly achieved I gueds

There is no way in hell that if Dad saw his teammate strongly reading him that he would switch his read on him to then strongly agree with him. No mafia team in history would ever do that. This feels like more of a bait of Dad's than anything else

You are too prideful of a player dolby and need to look at reason. This makes no sense
 
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Punchy possible SK

But 0% chance of mafia. He was consistent and crucial in a way that doesn’t come from teammate bussing, even if we assume Evan isn’t scum here

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There is no way in hell that if Dad saw his teammate strongly reading him that he would switch his read on him to then strongly agree with him. No mafia team in history would ever do that. This feels like more of a bait of Dad's than anything else

You are too prideful of a player dolby and need to look at reason. This makes no sense
He “switched his read” because he saw him going against me, and pretty much ignored his horrendous first two posts. That’s scum conductive, even if he ignore the last hour of D1
 
Toads, you have some valid thoughts (especially on the inactivity being a weak main point) What do you think of Unravel (in general) and the argument punchy and temptations had last night?

I see where you’re trying to get at with temptations, but I’m leaning more towards him not being scum bc of the whole conversation that he and I had over his self vote. While I initially said his idea of a self lynch was a scummy move, his response comes off as more genuine. I see him more as misguided town/possible SK but probably not scum

I definitely disagree on you with punchy being scum for reasons I’ve stated before

We went through a phase of self-votes where we told people to stop and blah blah blah, antonio is fully aware of how it can come across, so I don't see the self-vote as indicative of town

I think the temptations/punchy feud is just what temptations is prolonging to keep himself relevant without adding to much else, he seemed so keen to go with whoever to lynch the other night and ended up on farobi I'm pretty sure which duh, he didn't vote for dad. I don't think the ones who voted for dad are scum because it was so close to the end, they would've firmly had votes elsewhere, not clinched a vote so closely.

Unravel is very aloof, I see genuinely in their posts over being scum guided. Its not strong enough for town lean so def in the null
 
I'm back and I see I'm almost dead, hate to break it to you but I'm the doctor so unvote my ass right this instant and mass Dolby.

You are now legally bound to eat a pile of hats and post it for all to see.
 
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Punchy possible SK

But 0% chance of mafia. He was consistent and crucial in a way that doesn’t come from teammate bussing, even if we assume Evan isn’t scum here

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He “switched his read” because he saw him going against me, and pretty much ignored his horrendous first two posts. That’s scum conductive, even if he ignore the last hour of D1

I 100% agree on punchy, def not mafia, possible SK

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I'm back and I see I'm almost dead, hate to break it to you but I'm the doctor so unvote my ass right this instant and mass Dolby.

You are now legally bound to eat a pile of hats and post it for all to see.

Dolby is bad and misguided, but he is not scum.... he led the persecution of dad

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also claim.... holy crap
 
I'm back and I see I'm almost dead, hate to break it to you but I'm the doctor so unvote my ass right this instant and mass Dolby.

You are now legally bound to eat a pile of hats and post it for all to see.

Okay yikes

Who did you protect
 
Protected Damniel because I figured I would be kept around despite my blue claim, because tunnelling.

Oh **** dad WAS scum?! Thanks SK, very cool!

Got lots of catching up to do obviously but I just needed to stop maj
 
In before Dolby tries to say his claim is fake

But a claim like that so early is fodder for CC, so I believe it verily on top of EVERYTHING ELSE IVE BEEN SAYING
 
Oh I should also say that punchy and temptations have been going at each other since the beginning, they’re def not on the same team
 
Protected Damniel because I figured I would be kept around despite my blue claim, because tunnelling.

Oh **** dad WAS scum?! Thanks SK, very cool!

Got lots of catching up to do obviously but I just needed to stop maj

Remember that time I lynched you on day 1

I hope what you read makes up for that because I've been defending yo buttt

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Oh I should also say that punchy and temptations have been going at each other since the beginning, they’re def not on the same team

This is true, I watched it for the whole time and was like.... why is this still happening 70 pages later
 
Protected Damniel because I figured I would be kept around despite my blue claim, because tunnelling.

Oh **** dad WAS scum?! Thanks SK, very cool!

Got lots of catching up to do obviously but I just needed to stop maj

I didn’t get a PM which means that the SK was attacked

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Unless there is a counterclaim, I’m believing Evan I’m unvoting
 
Protected Damniel because I figured I would be kept around despite my blue claim, because tunnelling.

Oh **** dad WAS scum?! Thanks SK, very cool!

Got lots of catching up to do obviously but I just needed to stop maj

You owe me an apology you ignorant ass

Frankly I don't see that coming early yeah

Also, saw someone say something, Bianca said people aren't notified of a successful save
 
Dad I trusted you :( Did have serious doubts though. Oh well. This throws things off for sure.

On page 70ish but from what I gathered, Dad flipped scum so obviously mass me because I was kinda vacillating on him. Which makes sense but sorry I'm the wrong guy.
 
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