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Mafia TBT Switch Mafia (Long Days and Nights)- ENDGAME @Page 120- Town Wins

Okkkk that’s different, but dad also voted unravel day 1... while everyone was on Farobi. Why vote for your teammate at that stage when there was much better options to vote for

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When he had all the reason to not vote for Farobi, it just so happens his vote ended on unravel
 
Dad's def much more subtle than Vanessa, but holy **** he ****ed up bad with that post and that vote. He was apparently going for SK and not maf, and put down the vote "for science".

If Farobi is scum (I still think he is) do you think SK or mafia? All the anti-aligns point at SK for me but Punchy's wall could be mafia defense.

I'm sorta leaning towards SK and that Punchy is either mafia with tmi and knowing that defending him won't link if he flips SK and reflect well if town but the wall does seem genuinely conflicted and in depth on specific moments which requires a deliberate reading in a way one wouldn't read a partner.

I'm willing to vote Dolby as a reminder.

Also I don't see unravel in a team with Dolby as much as it looks like it at first glance with that accusation towards you because it's straight up a bad accusation I wouldn't see a teammate approving of.

You know, he actually had a weird focus on finding the SK the entire time for that last section of day, that was frankly extremely revealing
If Farobi flips maf then yeah, good look for unravel and 90% confident on unravel being town but only if maf.

Also if neither Dolby or Farobi are sk then unravel is a solid alternative
I think unravel is the solid SK alt
@Damniel and @Evan y'all are my townreads. This or Farobi?

unravel solidly doesn't feel like mafia but the aloofness at EoD from them pings me as forced when it's more than one moment of cluelessness about things this person wouldn't normally be clueless about, three moments as a matter of fact: Evan accusation, questioning that maf has a doc when it's clearly a switch as described in OP, acting confused with Punchy because not reading that he's coming where he's coming from because anti-align with Farobi (not reading = not solving).
But frankly, I feel that he had no intention of leaving that vote, and I think he was trying to pass it off as a reaction test because he said Unravel wasn't mafia. I actually feel somewhat weaker about Unravel!maf world now, but frankly, I'm sticking with Farobi clear, this is strictly due to Vanessa's vote on Farobi

However, this is in no way close to clearing because I 100% view Dad's vote on Unravel as distancing, he was wiggling out of it the whole time, and clearly wasn't going to end there considering how frequently the slot was "potentially SK". The only real point in favor is that I think that he could have slipped into a SK hunting persona because he wrongfully thought he had between me into submission because of the Evan/him echo chamber, and just decided to openly hunt for SK (choosing between me/Unravel/Farobi). I also have a problem with this, because PoE leaves Toads, and, strictly speaking, Punchy, as the only two possible (not likely) maf candidates. I view this as much more likely to be bussing, as the only real issues that I have with Toads is that he was off Vanessa and isn't putting forward viable worlds. And I'd eat a hat if Punchy is mafia

Vanessa voted Farobi, making it 5 Farobi, 3 Unravel, where she could have tied the wagons with Dad's support if they were trying to save Farobi in a teamming world. Vanessa could've chosen to make it 4/4, but didn't (this is before the Dad wagon started for context). This clearly is an attempt to force the Farobi lynch I feel, because her vote was the crucial one from maj, where she could due a vote switch on Farobi later in day if it came to that point. Moreover, Dad's vote clearly wasn't going to end there, because he was blatently not going for maf, and that blatantness could easily be intentional

This is kinda SoC, but I really don't think that Vanessa votes Farobi as teammates at that point especially, and I think that Dad's vote is distancing rather than slipish because of PoE

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Personally, I also feel that Dad did a lot of work drumming up support for Farobi so yeah

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Ding dong Vanessa if I was a scum I wouldn't take a risk voting you, you are just parting me up with farobi but ends up voting farobi instead of me to what? Save ur scummate��

I'm just a vanilla townie stop wasting time vote lock on me theyre doing this as easy target to save themselves also obviously mafia is already at disadvantage due to inactivity

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And to be REALLY honest its a good time to roll call we got 1 scum and sk we can determine whos scum

I'm still totally down with farobi lynch and I caught him from the start even I did not provide ISO idc if you disagree with me or not idfc if you think im piggybacking or whatever and I know most of my post are totally halfassed cuz I'm practicing playing mafia on phone only. I really do rely on ****posting in laptop than mobile I do really need to get used to this

Hi cop I ****ing dare you to INVESTIGATE me since WE DON'T HAVE A GODFATHER here thanks :)

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Role call***

So
Wants role call but says they want it tomorrow when they get called out on it

Takes credit for the Vanessa lynch,... but really didn't have an impact on it

The cop dare I actually kinda like tbh

Btw Legacy post coming tomorrow at 11:59, I fear I'm dead tonight

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I don?t see Farobi as scum so:

Is Unravel is town/SK:
Toads is final scum

If Unravel is maf:
Punchy or Dolby are SK

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I don?t see Farobi/Heyden as scum as they have been the consist sus target for the current scum team (Dad, Vanessa, and either Unravel/Toads)

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Constant

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@Toads, for over 48 hours, Farobi was offline (we checked his activity). He was offline for the entirety of N1, and we know the SK killed Dad, therefore he couldn?t have PMed the kill

This
 
@dolby

Remind me again why we aren't thinking of daniel at all, I have considered him not a candidate for scum but looking back on my original read through he was resistant to a dad lynch at first and I scum read him hard at the beginning too


I'm drawing a blank on what drove us to town lock him
 
@dolby

Remind me again why we aren't thinking of daniel at all, I have considered him not a candidate for scum but looking back on my original read through he was resistant to a dad lynch at first and I scum read him hard at the beginning too


I'm drawing a blank on what drove us to town lock him

Vanessa spewed that Damniel was saved by Evan last night by not outting SK

Outting SK is a good move for mafia because it gets them to F3

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And yes, he could be SK, but solidly not maf
 
If unravel is town, I am not your final scum.... so lets have a back-up plan another option for that because I will Rose the Roleblocker all over this ***** and request as many days as I can get if you think you are gonna streamline the rest of this game

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Vanessa spewed that Damniel was saved by Evan last night by not outting SK

Outting SK is a good move for mafia because it gets them to F3

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And yes, he could be SK, but solidly not maf

do you think vanessa would know 100% to do that

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dolby why do you think you are dead, when we still have a doctor....

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Cop should really investigate farobi of all people too
 
I think she would want retribution for Dad's death at the very least

I just don't believe that vanessa would know to do all of that especially given she was busy.... so she focused more on saving her butt (which would've never worked)
 
cop investigate toads if unravel is town

if unravel is scum (most likely) cop investigate who you think is sk, not toads or heyden.

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if unravel is mafia for the second one
 
If unravel is town, I am not your final scum.... so lets have a back-up plan another option for that because I will Rose the Roleblocker all over this ***** and request as many days as I can get if you think you are gonna streamline the rest of this game

e x p a n s i o n
 
I don't like that we are just believing that Damniel was saved, when there is the possibility that mafia hit the SK.... yes he was a likely maf shot but I don't think thats enough to town lock and keep him away from possibility of being mafia. Especially if unravel comes back town, I don't think he should be lynched today, but looking at tomorrow you better believe I'm not letting you all gang up on me so easily when there are signs to him playing this up.

Take away the claim of him being saved and what would you think otherwise?

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cop investigate toads if unravel is town

if unravel is scum (most likely) cop investigate who you think is sk, not toads or heyden.

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if unravel is mafia for the second one

yes, actually this... please investigate me!!!
 
I don't like that we are just believing that Damniel was saved, when there is the possibility that mafia hit the SK.... yes he was a likely maf shot but I don't think thats enough to town lock and keep him away from possibility of being mafia. Especially if unravel comes back town, I don't think he should be lynched today, but looking at tomorrow you better believe I'm not letting you all gang up on me so easily when there are signs to him playing this up.

Take away the claim of him being saved and what would you think otherwise?

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yes, actually this... please investigate me!!!

What's your reaction should Unravel flip maf?
 
@Toads, i believe I and Dolby have already stated why Farobi is most likely not scum. He has been sussed by the two conf scum and sussed by the last two potential scum (you and Unravel). Farobi is POSSIBLE, but the most unlikely final partner. While I believe Unravel is not town (maf/SK), you are also potential maf in my eyes. Especially with you not wanting to vote Vanessa (who was very clear to be not town). I believe Unravel is more plausible then you, but you still have reasons

And yea, I can’t deny that by PoE I could be SK (along with Punchy, Dolby, and Unravel), so your sus for me is legit. But thinking I could be scum is pretty silly at this point, especially since I helped the Dad wagon and started the Vanessa one
 
answer my question first and then I'll answer yours

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ANSWER MY QUESTION FIRST AND THEN I'LL ANSWER ALL OF YOURS

Ambiguity. We don't know if Evan can protect himself and it's better that we don't know
 
@Toads, i believe I and Dolby have already stated why Farobi is most likely not scum. He has been sussed by the two conf scum and sussed by the last two potential scum (you and Unravel). Farobi is POSSIBLE, but the most unlikely final partner. While I believe Unravel is not town (maf/SK), you are also potential maf in my eyes. Especially with you not wanting to vote Vanessa (who was very clear to be not town). I believe Unravel is more plausible then you, but you still have reasons

And yea, I can’t deny that by PoE I could be SK (along with Punchy, Dolby, and Unravel), so your sus for me is legit. But thinking I could be scum is pretty silly at this point, especially since I helped the Dad wagon and started the Vanessa one

I think you are a lot more privy to a sinking ship than most others, so I don't think its out of the realm of possibilities and you were late to the dad band wagon, as well as flip flopping votes at the last minutes is risky, I mean look what happened to evan almost, and keeping things even gives town no information in the sense of a no lynch which mafia would be happy with....

I know its a head case/ far out idea, but seeing as how everyone is talking about me being snap lynched tomorrow if unravel comes back town you better believe I'm bringing it up. Again I don't want anything switched for today I see the unravel case as the most likely right now, but I'm an anxious person and these things have been wrong before.
 
Also, personally, without Dan's being saved he'd still be only behind Punchy in terms of towniness among the non-blues
 
Ambiguity. We don't know if Evan can protect himself and it's better that we don't know

My question was if you take away the Daniel was saved thing, and look at his content otherwise what do you think then.

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Also, personally, without Dan's being saved he'd still be only behind Punchy in terms of towniness among the non-blues


ok thank you this kind of answers my question I guess... I see him a lot more scummy barring that, but whatever. You all can shoot yourself in the foot if unravel comes back town
 
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