Terrorist Attack in Nice

[Fleshy]

Still, thoughts to everyone affected.

 

[LambdaDelta]

When you wake up in the morning and find **** on the bathroom floor, it's unfortunate, but unsurprising. It's the bathroom, that's where **** goes.

When you find **** on the kitchen counter, that's significant.

it probably just means you should lay off the booze

 

[Tensu]

Happy Bastille Day :/ This just makes me scared to go to any large gathering of people. As if I wasn't already super scared of that... *le sigh* Never leaving the house again

Don't let the terrorists make you feel that way. That's letting them win because they want you to be afraid.

 

[sej]

My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones. <3 R.I.P.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I don't know if increased surveillance of people would really help or not, but this seems like a case where something was missed that shouldn't have been. Someone doesn't just acquire a truck full of guns and grenades without any help and it isn't easy to hide something like that. France definitely has a problem. It goes beyond lone wolfs being inspired on the internet. There are likely areas in France where terrorists have the space to plan and prepare for attacks without having to worry about being caught, and maybe the country needs to increase surveillance to find these areas. I'd ordinarily choose liberty over defense, but in France the attacks are frequent enough and deadly enough that maybe it's time for a shift in policy there.

What would that change? Increased street cams, drones, etc might not help. Without an AI or massive amounts of people hired on to watch these cameras, we're collecting a lot of nothing. Nothing that has to be shifted through AFTER the fact. Even with increased cameras there's still likely to be dark zones or zones where cameras don't reach. Articles are coming out that these guys weren't on some watchlist even, despite crimes/threats they did previously in France.

 

[Red Cat]

What would that change? Increased street cams, drones, etc might not help. Without an AI or massive amounts of people hired on to watch these cameras, we're collecting a lot of nothing. Nothing that has to be shifted through AFTER the fact. Even with increased cameras there's still likely to be dark zones or zones where cameras don't reach. Articles are coming out that these guys weren't on some watchlist even, despite crimes/threats they did previously in France.

When I was talking about increased surveillance, I wasn't just talking about cameras although I wasn't very clear about that. I think that there needs to be a larger police presence (both in and out of uniform) in neighborhoods and communities where these attacks are most likely to originate from. I know many people would call that profiling, but with so many lives at stake, that may be a necessary evil.

I agree with you that cameras do little to stop an attack from happening, but they can be useful for tracing the attacker back to other individuals who may have provided training and resources to carry out the attack. There is still a lot of information that needs to come out, but the nature of this attack suggests he had some help in carrying it out. If that's the case, then it's crucial to find those people or they'll just train and equip another person to carry out a similar attack. That's why I think it's time to look at some decisions which may be denying law enforcement valuable information because of politics. That's not to say I'm in favor of full police states, but at this time it may be necessary to move toward security and away from liberty a little at least temporarily. Saying that you want to take a firm stand for liberty and freedom sounds good, but it doesn't look so good when people are getting killed left and right because of it.

 

[Reindeer]

When I was talking about increased surveillance, I wasn't just talking about cameras although I wasn't very clear about that. I think that there needs to be a larger police presence (both in and out of uniform) in neighborhoods and communities where these attacks are most likely to originate from. I know many people would call that profiling, but with so many lives at stake, that may be a necessary evil.

Could you pinpoint exactly where these attacks are most likely to originate from? It's easy to pinpoint such neighborhoods in countries like the Netherlands or Belgium, but in France things sadly aren't that obvious. Previous attacks in France were in and around Paris, but this attack is way down south, and it seems to have been planned by one man to perform alone.

I understand your argument, and will concede that while uncomfortable, the security implemented and the profiling that occurred after 9/11 did prevent attacks on many other targets. But terrorists have also become more cunning in the years since, and the European intelligence network isn't perfect, which is why some of them are able to slip through the cracks and commit such atrocities.

 

[radical6]

Really ****ing tired of these terrorist attacks, every time another one of these happen I'm waiting for the eventual ticking timebomb in Seattle to explode. We will probably get attacked because Seattle is uh, pretty haram.

RIP to everyone, I watched a couple videos. It's horrifying. It's so sad that I've become used to hearing this type of news because it happens so often. Orlando was not even that long ago either. Belgium too. It all happens so fast and life vanishes before your eyes. Enjoying simple activities can lead to your death and to me, that's terrifying.

 

[DarkDesertFox]

I can't believe there are people so heartless as this. These kind of attacks have been feeling more and more frequent and it's disheartening. Thoughts and prayers going out to the victims and families effected.

 

[Reindeer]

ISIS claimed the attack. 5 arrests have already been made in the investigation. (source)

Police stated that Bouhlel, the driver of the truck, wasn't known to authorities as someone that had radicalized. His radicalization had occurred at a rapid rate, though a time frame wasn't given. (source)

Still, it seems the investigation hasn't found any concrete ties to ISIS as of yet.

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

France has been a major target for terrorist attacks lately. It's really heartbreaking.

 

[oath2order]

ISIS claimed the attack. 5 arrests have already been made in the investigation. (source)

Police stated that Bouhlel, the driver of the truck, wasn't known to authorities as someone that had radicalized. His radicalization had occurred at a rapid rate, though a time frame wasn't given. (source)

Still, it seems the investigation hasn't found any concrete ties to ISIS as of yet.

ISIS claims they've done everything

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

ISIS would claim Jonestown if they could.

 

[#1 Senpai]

R.I.P

another terrorist strikes again, smh