The ACNH Rant Thread

[SlEEPYTEARRS]

im bitter about older players (SOME, not ALL) just because ive seen the elitism so much in this community as compared to others ive been in. i complain about the game as well as i too am disappointed in decisions nintendo has made, as well as i do think there isnt a lot of content here so far. but ive seen people just being happy about the game and then get attacked by older players who say their love is invalid because they have been playing for x amount of years now and they dont like things about the game. its like whenever a reboot comes out and people come in going "this is for US the old fans" its annoying (and yes ive been an old player in other communities, such as pokemon, yet ive never thought my opinion is better than others)

 

[daringred_]

im bitter about older players just because ive seen the elitism so much in this community as compared to others ive been in. i complain about the game as well as i too am disappointed in decisions nintendo has made, as well as i do think there isnt a lot of content here so far. but ive seen people just being happy about the game and then get attacked by older players who say their love is invalid because they have been playing for x amount of years now and they dont like things about the game. its like whenever a reboot comes out and people come in going "this is for US the old fans" its annoying (and yes ive been an old player in other communities, such as pokemon, yet ive never thought my opinion is better than others)

personally, i've never experienced "elitism" in this community. (though i have in the pokemon one, ironically.) the only time i've mentioned playing all of the other games (GC excluded) is to point out that i'm not "idealizing" NL or having my judgement clouded by my enjoyment of it because, despite playing past entries, i've always preferred the one that followed each of them up until NH. as for when other players mention it... obviously i can't know their intent for certain, but i've always read it as them either making the same point as myself ("i've played the older entries but still preferred newer ones to them until now") or saying that because they've played older entries, they've experienced other features and gimmicks that newer players might not even know about which inherently separates their opinion from newer players' and (likely) explains why it's different.

genuinely never seen anyone (on here, anyway) use having played all the past games as a way to deliberately invalidate someone else's opinion and go, "oh? you've never played the older games? then you're immediately wrong." or tell them they're not allowed to enjoy/like it. it's always more, "i've played the older games and experienced different features/changes/etc. to you which is likely why our opinions are different and you might not fully understand mine."

 

[Poppies_92]

im bitter about older players just because ive seen the elitism so much in this community as compared to others ive been in. i complain about the game as well as i too am disappointed in decisions nintendo has made, as well as i do think there isnt a lot of content here so far. but ive seen people just being happy about the game and then get attacked by older players who say their love is invalid because they have been playing for x amount of years now and they dont like things about the game. its like whenever a reboot comes out and people come in going "this is for US the old fans" its annoying (and yes ive been an old player in other communities, such as pokemon, yet ive never thought my opinion is better than others)

I agree, even if that complaining is to a small group but,, NH is my first game after ignoring all the others since the GameCube days. This game brought me so much joy during this sad year. Just let people enjoy things if they like it. Not saying your not allowed to criticism things just do it a positive way. I'm not a fan of Pokémon as of late, but I'm not go around telling others to stop enjoying the new games or they're silly for liking things they enjoy. Just let people enjoy what they joy.

 

[SlEEPYTEARRS]

personally, i've never experienced "elitism" in this community. (though i have in the pokemon one, ironically.) the only time i've mentioned playing all of the other games (GC excluded) is to point out that i'm not "idealizing" NL or having my judgement clouded by my enjoyment of it because, despite playing past entries, i've always preferred the one that followed each of them up until NH. as for when other players mention it... obviously i can't know their intent for certain, but i've always read it as them either making the same point as myself ("i've played the older entries but still preferred newer ones to them until now") or saying that because they've played older entries, they've experienced other features and gimmicks that newer players might not even know about which inherently separates their opinion from newer players' and (likely) explains why it's different.

genuinely never seen anyone (on here, anyway) use having played all the past games as a way to deliberately invalidate someone else's opinion and go, "oh? you've never played the older games? then you're immediately wrong." or tell them they're not allowed to enjoy/like it. it's always more, "i've played the older games and experienced different features/changes/etc. to you which is likely why our opinions are different and you might not fully understand mine."

just saying even if youve never seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen. ive seen people be civil about it too, just not as much. depends on where you are. twitter and tumblr are cesspools of hate imo

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also not sure why youre saying its ironic that youve seen it in the pokemon community, i never said that i havent seen it? ive seen tons of it and its partially why ive left pokemon behind

 

[daringred_]

just saying even if youve never seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen. ive seen people be civil about it too, just not as much. depends on where you are. twitter and tumblr are cesspools of hate imo

i didn't say it never happens, just that i've "personally" never experienced it in this community, i.e. on tbt. twitter and instagram are cesspools (tumblr less so, imo) so i don't interact with the AC community on either just for my own sanity -- although that doesn't mean there aren't people on any of those platforms with fair criticism, they just tend to get drowned out by a particularly vocal minority. but i don't think it's fair to seemingly mar all older players with the same brush when a large number of them don't hold themselves above newer players or claim they're not allowed to love NH just because it's flawed and they themselves prefer an older title.

i'm happy some people love NH because what's the point in wishing for everyone to be miserable and dissatisfied? it's not like i prefer being disappointed and letdown by NH, and i'm glad the title has at least introduced so many new people to the series, expanded the community, and been a source of calm/relief/etc. for people in the total hell year that is 2020. i also just so happen to have a myriad of issues with NH, and think it's one of the weaker entries in the series. nothing wrong with either stance.

 

[SlEEPYTEARRS]

i should have said not all older players ive got an issue with :/

 

[naviwing]

Curious why they thought it was a good idea to have the gift box diy require red wrapping paper and a cardboard box, neither of which might be sold at Nooks that day. I have red wrapping paper today, but was only able to make one yesterday because by luck I had both in my storage. I've seen others say that the villagers can give you the red wrapping paper, but mine never did? And what about players who might not have internet, kids who shouldn't/can't be in online communities, or their friends also don't have the ingredients?

Just seems like a lot of pieces have to fall into place to make a simple but iconic recipe for Toy Day.

 

[JKDOS]

Curious why they thought it was a good idea to have the gift box diy require red wrapping paper and a cardboard box, neither of which might be sold at Nooks that day. I have red wrapping paper today, but was only able to make one yesterday because by luck I had both in my storage. I've seen others say that the villagers can give you the red wrapping paper, but mine never did? And what about players who might not have internet, kids who shouldn't/can't be in online communities, or their friends also don't have the ingredients?

Cardboard boxes actually spawn in the recycling bin.

 

[NikNok88]

I still can’t get the christmas diys from balloons!

 

[-Lumi-]

I don't understand all the people complaining about how this isn't NL. I mean, you can still play NL, if they miss it so much why not just play that instead? Every game is going to be different, granted there are a lot of things in this game I don't care for, and things I wish they had implemented, but it is its own game NOT a NL 2.0. Maybe I just don't get it. If you hate the game so much, fine, but why lament it isn't like past games...just play the past games!

I think it’s fair for people to be upset specifically when it comes to NL vs NH. New Horizons is a beautiful game no doubt but it feels like a step down from New Leaf in other ways? So I think it’s fair for people to be upset.

If New Horizons was a game that just went in a bit of a different direction then I could see being a little more frustrated with the comments. But as much as I love the game it feels like an incomplete experience. When I bought New Leaf everything was there and ready - it didn’t need Internet for update & access to play holidays, I wasn’t relying on updates to bring in NPCs like Leif, and I didn’t need multiplayer to achieve basic island necessities like fruit.

New Horizons has a lot of elements that can be critiqued and it’s hard to not feel like “why did they change that?” When it comes to mechanics that didn’t feel broken or in need of a change like omitting fruit types, getting rid of perfect fruit, not having store upgrades, etc especially when people are already frustrated with New Horizon specific mechanics like the RNG system for island hopping, finding DIYs, and so on.

It also isn’t necessarily as easy as “go back to New Leaf if you love it so much” when most of the online community has moved onto New Horizons and Animal Crossing is such a social game. New Leaf is definitely better for being able to be played alone, but I’m not going to fault people for wanting to play the newest game in a series that has such a big item trading element.

I think it’s a tricky situation and I don’t fault anybody for being frustrated with New Horizons given the price tag ($90 here in Canada) and what we’ve gotten so far. With New Leaf I was getting the full (albeit still flawed!) game right out of the box. I’m bitter about New Horizons relying so heavily on updates and also having weird gameplay choices.

 

[Starboard]

I think it’s fair for people to be upset specifically when it comes to NL vs NH. New Horizons is a beautiful game no doubt but it feels like a step down from New Leaf in other ways? So I think it’s fair for people to be upset.

If New Horizons was a game that just went in a bit of a different direction then I could see being a little more frustrated with the comments. But as much as I love the game it feels like an incomplete experience. When I bought New Leaf everything was there and ready - it didn’t need Internet for update & access to play holidays, I wasn’t relying on updates to bring in NPCs like Leif, and I didn’t need multiplayer to achieve basic island necessities like fruit.

New Horizons has a lot of elements that can be critiqued and it’s hard to not feel like “why did they change that?” When it comes to mechanics that didn’t feel broken or in need of a change like omitting fruit types, getting rid of perfect fruit, not having store upgrades, etc especially when people are already frustrated with New Horizon specific mechanics like the RNG system for island hopping, finding DIYs, and so on.

It also isn’t necessarily as easy as “go back to New Leaf if you love it so much” when most of the online community has moved onto New Horizons and Animal Crossing is such a social game. New Leaf is definitely better for being able to be played alone, but I’m not going to fault people for wanting to play the newest game in a series that has such a big item trading element.

I think it’s a tricky situation and I don’t fault anybody for being frustrated with New Horizons given the price tag ($90 here in Canada) and what we’ve gotten so far. With New Leaf I was getting the full (albeit still flawed!) game right out of the box. I’m bitter about New Horizons relying so heavily on updates and also having weird gameplay choices.

I agree so much with all of this. I respect people's opinions when they say the game is fine and just took a different direction, but imo I'm not sure taking a different direction has to mean that so much stuff from the previous entries should be taken out, or watered down, or changed for the worse. Because those were the things that players loved and expected in each new entry, so it's a bit weird?

I have a lingering suspicion that it wasn't planned out this way and the devs literally ran out of time to create the depth that NL had, but in any case there are a lot of shortcuts being taken here. I'm fine waiting for updates but in the end if we still have less stuff to do besides decorating I'll be a little sad.

I still love New Horizons, and I think the good things about it are VERY good, but I always imagine how much better it could be if they *just* brought back some of the fun we could have in New Leaf and other games.

Btw I don't remember what thread this was in but someone mentioned that your island is a mess when you boot it up. I agree with that, especially now that it snows so much. It's the reason I've been playing the game sparsely because I'm tired of digging up flowers every second day and cleaning twigs every day on top of everything else I want to do. This is kind of what I mean by changed for the worse.

 

[coldpotato]

I also don't understand why a lot of things aren't in the game that were in the previous games. I'm honestly curious if anyone has any examples of games that took away a lot of features they had in previous games in their newest game like New Horizons did. I have never seen this happen with any video games I've been a fan of. The most current game usually has more content than the previous one, not less.

I do think that part of the lack of features was because they were running out of time and weren't fully ready to release the game and they will continue to add things in future updates but what about the updates we have received so far? They seem to have less things to do in the events. Are they trying to simplify everything so it will appeal to younger kids? Are they having troubles adding more to the game due to the pandemic? Are they just not a very creative team or are they just lazy? Man I just wish I could interview someone who works on this game. I'd love to know why they've been doing what they're doing.

 

[Noel_in_Sunrise]

As bad as the balloon recipes are for me, they are much worse for my mom. She just got back into the game for Christmas and spent an hour playing without getting any recipes. She was so frustrated. She struggles to find the balloons at all now that she can't hear them (we both miss the louder sound), but then when she does, none of them contain recipes.

I already hated grinding balloons, but hadn't realized how profoundly unfair the recipe drop rate is to people who play games more casually. Why should this game that was supposed to be relaxing require that level of skill?

 

[Livia]

I also don't understand why a lot of things aren't in the game that were in the previous games. I'm honestly curious if anyone has any examples of games that took away a lot of features they had in previous games in their newest game like New Horizons did. I have never seen this happen with any video games I've been a fan of. The most current game usually has more content than the previous one, not less.

a lot of people have the same complaints (the game went backwards, has less content etc) about the sims 4 compared to the sims 3. I think it’s kind of funny/interesting reading what people say here about NL and NH because it’s the exact same thing they say all over the sims forums just replace NL with sims 3 and NH with sims 4.

Spoiler: My opinion about the games

Personally I love the sims 4 and NH because they’re the first one I played in the case of the sims, or the main one in animal crossing (I played WW and CF as a child and didn’t like CF) so it’s weird to see people complaining and saying that the previous games were so much better. In the sims case, I did go back and buy and play 3 to see what people loved about it, but I don’t like it much. I can’t play NL because I would have to buy a console and the game which is a lot of money to invest in something I may not like.

 

[Starboard]

I wish that if we had to clean up so much stuff every time we boot up the game it could at least sell for more so it's not so pointlessly painful. Twigs only sell for 5 bells and flowers can be as low as 40. Yet they both spawn like mad, and flowers especially during winter with all the snow days. I wouldn't be complaining if it were just twigs, or just weeds that you can pull out, but the flowers just make it so aggravating and my shovels break way faster than they used to.

I know I've complained about this several times before but it really takes the cake for me in terms of annoyances in this game. I've actually lost interest in playing because of it. Someone did suggest using MeteoNook to avoid snow which I will try, but man this shouldn't be so annoying to begin with.

 

[SlEEPYTEARRS]

im still surprised about the lack of an options menu that contains like noise sliders. sometimes i want to listen to the music but the sounds are too loud, a lot of the time i cant even hear balloons going by

 

[Starboard]

im still surprised about the lack of an options menu that contains like noise sliders. sometimes i want to listen to the music but the sounds are too loud, a lot of the time i cant even hear balloons going by

Yeah, I don't know any other games that don't have sound settings! Granted I don't play many games but I doubt having fixed sound settings is a common thing.

And I don't care if it's tradition or gives the series "charm" lol. It has enough charm already!

 

[6iixx]

i wish the event date and times were a little more clear. i had to spend christmas eve crocheting a last minute present most of the night, thinking that the event would be on christmas day and that i would have time yesterday to do it. when i signed on, isabelle just tells me about it being the last day to sign up for some contest, but that didn't really "qualify" as news, and to carry on.

i'm.. breaking my no time traveling streak just so i can go back and do the toy day event.. i honestly have no idea what impression i got that told me it would be on christmas day, but man.. i really, really wish i had known it was from december 24th 5 am - december 25th 5 am.

especially considering when i did get on AC on christmas eve, jingle was no where to be found. le sigh.

 

[Sander]

I just want Isabelle gone. I do not want dog villagers/NPC's on my island, just like I do not want any dog near me in real life.

Wish there was an option to pick your RS staff or at least let RNG decide it whenever starting your island, there would've been plenty of choices of unused special characters in NH.

 

[Poppies_92]

Mystery island rant, I wish we could send materials back home from the Mystery Islands itself. There's not a unlimited amount of any materials on the islands to break the game. It would allow us to take more fish/bugs/critters back with us to make a little bit more bells.