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[Dolby]

Uhh, Ryu, Curry hasn’t voted today?

 

[Ryumia]

Uhh, Ryu, Curry hasn?t voted today?

Sorry. About that... I copied and pasted. :T I feel bad for Vanessa. 'Cause I messed up.

 

[Ghostkid]

This is a rare Spoopy Gavin and only appears once in every mafia game reply "Stay Spoopy Gav" to get luck with the game

 

[Dolby]

Damn it's quiet in here

Eh, I can understand people's reluctance to vote Rune, and yeah, reflecting upon it, him killing as SK doesn't make sense. I could see Rune killing Punchy N1, hoping that mafia did the same, and writing it off as a strongarm, but I have to concur, I have a hard time seeing him hit either Farobi or Punchy

I think that Cleb simply needs to read the thread, but unless Calamity is scum with him, which I severely doubt due to both of their votes and interactions with eachother, I'm pretty sure that the slot is town. Antonio yesterday would have tried to go after Calamity I feel, and his votes were both bad, but the same principle as last game applies, if he's maf in a town v scum wagon, he votes for the town, or even the mafia simply to gain towncred. I'm pretty sure that Antonio would have abandoned the vote on Punchy yesterday to either go after Calamity or try to salvage towncred by voting Dedenne. So definetely my top and only confident townlean in the POE 5

I kinda just want to assume that Calamity is town simply because it makes things easier in terms of hunting mafia. Him being town makes the slot owned by Cleb almost certainly town and narrows the scumpool to Evan, Silver, and Ghost (and Curry I guess, but he comes back he's being lynched. If he doesn't, 90% chance he's MKed). Of course, if Calamity is mafia that would serve to clear Evan and Curry and make Silver and Ghost more sus within the grouping.

Evan, Silver, and Ghost is where I want the lynch right now, and regardless of Rune's status, I'm pretty sure that this is where the scum is

Not sure how I feel about Ghost's continued votes for NLs, because the only time that he voted for NL in Ships as town was when people were placeholdering because they were scared that Punchy was a bomb that killed his voters. He did not consider no lynch as a valid option, and was doing it for the sole purpose of not being on the Punchy wagon. Not even during the limited ML debacle did he want to or vote for no lynch, which serves as heavy contrast to this game. Evan/Ghost is a notable scum line given Evan's willingness to vote Silver here. I def think that scum is in those three, and I really don't see Evan acquieseing to lynch his teammate so readily

I don't see Evan voting Silver when they're on a team, and ultimately, because of that vote, my debate in my mind comes to Evan v Silver. I 100% don't think that they're a team, and I am 90% confident that the remaining mafia lie within Evan, Silver, and Ghost. Which means that I'm either wrong on Calamity, which I think is less likely given that he was THE ONLY counterwagon to Dedenne yesterday, or Ghost is probably scum

This being said, Silver's responses to my questions yesterday were honestly really bad, and I'd like to think that she's mafia who thinks or has known that Rune is SK since D2, but once I get home I really need to look into Gavin. Silver's lynch is going down to fast to readily

 

[MapleSilver]

Whatever. I knew I wasn't playing great, but my play must be really bad for me to get sussed like this. I doubt that if I managed to get myself into this in the first place that I would ever be able to defend myself.

You want to lynch me and likely lose the game for town, go ahead. At this point I really don't care enough to try to stop it.

I apologize for being entirely counterproductive so far. Best of luck to town, though I'm not too optimistic about its chances.

 

[Dolby]

TL;DR
Silver/Evan not a team, therefore Gavin prob scum, otherwise I'm wrong on Calamity

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Whatever. I knew I wasn't playing great, but my play must be really bad for me to get sussed like this. I doubt that if I managed to get myself into this in the first place that I would ever be able to defend myself.

You want to lynch me and likely lose the game for town, go ahead. At this point I really don't care enough to try to stop it.

I apologize for being entirely counterproductive so far. Best of luck to town, though I'm not too optimistic about its chances.

Silver, who do you think is maf among the people voting for you, and just in general. Again, any townleans? I def think that Farobi’s slot deserves a clear for yesterday

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Or Curry is scum instead, low key kinda forgot he existed and was a number 75% of way through

 

[Ghostkid]

Im vanilla town dolby look eles where if you wanna win the game that bad

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Ok dolby evan is scum by way of elimination i sy we vote him and see how it turns out because maple seems sincere with that response about sussing him

 

[Ghostkid]

Let me ask you dolby WHY HAVENT U VOTED YET?

 

[calamitybot]

Let me ask you dolby WHY HAVENT U VOTED YET?

He doesn't want to tell us absolutely everything yet, lol

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Ghostkid whats your reasoning for voting Evan?

 

[Ghostkid]

He doesn't want to tell us absolutely everything yet, lol

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Ghostkid whats your reasoning for voting Evan?

Because dolby said that scum is in maple me and silver and im not scum. And maples defense against him being scum seems legit so that leaves evan

 

[Dolby]

Im vanilla town dolby look eles where if you wanna win the game that bad

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Ok dolby evan is scum by way of elimination i sy we vote him and see how it turns out because maple seems sincere with that response about sussing him

Ngl, this makes me think it’s you/Silver. But if I’m not wrong on Calamity, you’re town, and Silver is sincere, who’s Evans teammate besides Curry? I actually kinda think that Evan/Curry isn’t a team since I feel that Dedenne would have voted Calamity and the three would have acted in unison as poor of a strat that sounds.

As for why I haven’t voted, a quotable reason is “meh”

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The three would’ve acted in unison since both Curry and Evan would’ve wanted Dedenne to vote Calamity to save herself to explain that

 

[Ghostkid]

Ngl, this makes me think it’s you/Silver. But if I’m not wrong on Calamity, you’re town, and Silver is sincere, who’s Evans teammate besides Curry? I actually kinda think that Evan/Curry isn’t a team since I feel that Dedenne would have voted Calamity and the three would have acted in unison as poor of a strat that sounds.

As for why I haven’t voted, a quotable reason is “meh”

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The three would’ve acted in unison since both Curry and Evan would’ve wanted Dedenne to vote Calamity to save herself to explain that

THEN VOTE CALAMITY DAMNIT CUS IM TOWN god some town leader u are

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If it turns out Maple is town. IM LEADING TOWN AND IM GONNA DO A HELL OF A BETTER JOB THAN U.

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BECAUSE I CAN DO ANYTHING ANYONE ELSE CAN DO AUTISM OR NO AUTISM IM GONNA LEAD TOWN AND MAKE THE TBT MAFIA PLAYERS PROUD DAMNIT

 

[illunie]

@Rune - The beauty of being able to kill whoever you want is that you don't need incentive to kill somebody; you just kind of do it. Saying that you have no incentive to kill someone puts you in the same situation that I called Cal out for earlier -- it doesn't make you look Town, only uncertain.

sry, i think my point wasnt clear enough. punchy and farobi dying actually did/wouldve harmed my chances of winning. it wouldve been better for me not to have shot them if i was sk and just nl my shot. punchy wouldve been helpful in getting me cleared as a tp instead of maf with his cop report, as well as making the remaining mafia more apparent to town. farobi was doing rly well with identifying the remaining mafia, so it wouldve been optimal for me to at least wait until another mafia member was lynched before killing him, as this wouldve allowed for more people to die each night (taking me closer to victory) as well as having the least amount of mafia members i have to deal with to achieve victory. plus, farobi was taking a lot of the pressure off of me, so killing him wouldve increased the chances of me being lynched by a lot. its simply suboptimal to try and kill farobi.

theres no way i wouldve killed farobi or punchy as an sk last night. if i was sk, u would see smth like an antonio / ghostkid / silver / cal / curry death, someone less active and more coasty than most of the players who wouldnt rly be missed, rather than the town cop or the town leader (at the time). it just doesnt add up.

Also, your discounting of the possibility of a SK is quite worrisome. We don't know if it's a SK or a VG, and even in your position as a claimed SV, you have zero reason to discount either possibility to any degree, unless you're flat out lying about it and want people to look a certain direction to save your ass for another Day or two.

im not entirely sure what ur trying to say here? if ur saying i didnt consider the possibilty of there being two tps, with one of them being an sk, i did:

3. theres 2 tps, with the one other than me being an sk (prob unlikely but ill still leave it up there)

if ur concerned about how i said it was unlikely, then im sry but i dont see two tps in a 15 player game being a very likely scenario, it seems impossible to balance that for town.

if ur concerned about how i didnt consider the possibility that i could be sk, then im not rly sure what to say? ik im not sk so ofc im not gonna consider the possibility that i have a role ik i dont have. and if u think thats weird then glow didnt consider the possibility she was lying about her role in her list of scenarios about being hit:

yoooo sorry guys i skimmed my PM and didn?t notice that I WAS HIT LAST NIGHT lol

so KP never went down and this opens the possibilities to

1. rune being hostile

2. five starting mafia

3. egg brained vig

so if ur doubting me for it u should be doubting her too, the double standard is kinda troubling.

at the end of the day, it rly just doesnt make sense for me to be an sk at all. i would never have killed farobi or punchy if i was an sk.

 

[Ghostkid]

Im glad i said that i feel much better now

 

[Dolby]

Eh, well here?s what I got. I don?t think what Gavin said was scum discrediting a town members lynch or trying to get off an ML. New scum look for MLs to promote, and while this one is pretty landslidelike the only vote among it whose vote I dislike is Evans

Maple/Evan I am 100% sure isn?t a possibility. I want to say that Ghost/Evan isn?t either but I am not 100% confident in that. I still believe that scum lies in possibly Curry and those three: Evan, Silver, and Ghost. I?m 100% sure Glow is town, Rune is TP and I?m 100% sure that he?s at least not mafia. The situation behind Antonio/Cleb?s slot being scum previously relied on Calamity being mafia, and Cleb?s voting Calamity right now, and was the first to vote, I am fairly confident his slot is town regardless of Calamity?s alignment. Calamity, well I have no reason or definitive proof that he?s not mafia, but I feel like there?s some town points to him being the counterwagon yesterday. This kinda leaves me with Maple/Ghost and I?m pretty confident in that time, and the only things that could mess up with it are 1. Ghosts scum play is more developed than I?m giving him credit for, and he?s crosspushing Evan to get himself some towncred here, but I honestly really doubt that or 2. I?m wrong on my assumption of Calamity and he?s mafia

These teams are made up assuming Curry is town, because if he?s maf I think we have it narrowed down enough to autowin from here

But yeah, I?m getting on the bw: unless Calamity is maf I don?t see a team besides Ghost/Silver here

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Also, I see 2 as far more viable than 1

 

[Ghostkid]

Eh, well here’s what I got. I don’t think what Gavin said was scum discrediting a town members lynch or trying to get off an ML. New scum look for MLs to promote, and while this one is pretty landslidelike the only vote among it whose vote I dislike is Evans

Maple/Evan I am 100% sure isn’t a possibility. I want to say that Ghost/Evan isn’t either but I am not 100% confident in that. I still believe that scum lies in possibly Curry and those three: Evan, Silver, and Ghost. I’m 100% sure Glow is town, Rune is TP and I’m 100% sure that he’s at least not mafia. The situation behind Antonio/Cleb’s slot being scum previously relied on Calamity being mafia, and Cleb’s voting Calamity right now, and was the first to vote, I am fairly confident his slot is town regardless of Calamity’s alignment. Calamity, well I have no reason or definitive proof that he’s not mafia, but I feel like there’s some town points to him being the counterwagon yesterday. This kinda leaves me with Maple/Ghost and I’m pretty confident in that time, and the only things that could mess up with it are 1. Ghosts scum play is more developed than I’m giving him credit for, and he’s crosspushing Evan to get himself some towncred here, but I honestly really doubt that or 2. I’m wrong on my assumption of Calamity and he’s mafia

These teams are made up assuming Curry is town, because if he’s maf I think we have it narrowed down enough to autowin from here

But yeah, I’m getting on the bw: unless Calamity is maf I don’t see a team besides Ghost/Silver here

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Also, I see 2 as far more viable than 1

Ur gonna make town lose dolby ngl

 

[xCleb]

im not entirely sure what ur trying to say here? if ur saying i didnt consider the possibilty of there being two tps, with one of them being an sk, i did:

It simply felt like that, despite your laying it out as a possibility, you seemed to dismiss the idea of it altogether. I'm satisfied with your explanation before this though, so it's not a bother to me.

Ghostkid freaking out over Dolby's gamesolving just makes me more worried about him the more he posts about it. I'm not saying that Town would have given up hope at this point, but they certainly wouldn't have put up this much of a fuss about it, and instead would actually would try to do something to prove this gamesolve incorrect, in order to advocate for the lynch of a different suspect.v Obviously none of that is present here and we're just getting a bunch of "omg dolby you is suck you lose game the for us!1" and that just gives me a really bad feeling about him. I'm not satisfied with Cal's blatant dismissals of my posts against him, but I don't think that's as important of anissue as this current situation with Ghostkid under any circumstances.

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The weird part about that though is that Ghost isn't even under the knife right now (didn't look at the voting thread right away and thought he was looool), which gives me huge "I need to protect my teammate" vibes. Maple flipping Mafia at this point would practically confirm Ghost as a teammate.

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Wow yeah I really do need to read those two posts were all over the damn place.

 

[Ghostkid]

It simply felt like that, despite your laying it out as a possibility, you seemed to dismiss the idea of it altogether. I'm satisfied with your explanation before this though, so it's not a bother to me.

Ghostkid freaking out over Dolby's gamesolving just makes me more worried about him the more he posts about it. I'm not saying that Town would have given up hope at this point, but they certainly wouldn't have put up this much of a fuss about it, and instead would actually would try to do something to prove this gamesolve incorrect, in order to advocate for the lynch of a different suspect.v Obviously none of that is present here and we're just getting a bunch of "omg dolby you is suck you lose game the for us!1" and that just gives me a really bad feeling about him. I'm not satisfied with Cal's blatant dismissals of my posts against him, but I don't think that's as important of anissue as this current situation with Ghostkid under any circumstances.

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The weird part about that though is that Ghost isn't even under the knife right now (didn't look at the voting thread right away and thought he was looool), which gives me huge "I need to protect my teammate" vibes. Maple flipping Mafia at this point would practically confirm Ghost as a teammate.

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Wow yeah I really do need to read those two posts were all over the damn place.

I guess ull just have to see when u all mislynch maple

 

[illunie]

the way ghostkid is reacting u would think he was the one being set to be lynched

 

[Ghostkid]

I belive in Maple