Mafia The Hunger Games Mafia - Game Thread - Endgame - Mafia + Survivor Win

[calamitybot]

i mean if it wouldnt hurt or help town then y even waste a lynch on me at all, it would be better just to nl then right

You're talking in ways that all imply you're being truthful about your role. What incentive is there in trusting you at all? If you are the survivor and claim you'll help the town, above all, you've just made yourself a public target to the mafia. Why make that risk at all, instead of just keeping it hidden from everybody else and outlasting your opponents?

 

[Dolby]

Kat wouldn?t let Rune claim surv as maf, that?s just a superbly bad play

If Rune is maf, we just lynch him at LYLO becaus he?d either mafside or be confirmed scum in that situation. The only downside to leaving Rune alive until that point in the hypothetical that he?s scum would be scum KP, but it is definetely woryh it waiting for him to be confirmed scum rather than take a chance on him today. There really shouldn?t be anyone wanting to lynch him given that we can could easily lynch him later should he become confirmed scum

And I really don?t think he?s maf either. Claiming surv in his first post is def something I see Rune doing as surv and not scum, and it appears that he is trying to help town here

 

[illunie]

You're talking in ways that all imply you're being truthful about your role. What incentive is there in trusting you at all? If you are the survivor and claim you'll help the town, above all, you've just made yourself a public target to the mafia. Why make that risk at all, instead of just keeping it hidden from everybody else and outlasting your opponents?

hopefully mafia will realise that im not a big threat to them since i dont count towards towns numbers and i dont have a blue ability and their kills are better used on other ppl (also my reads are trash so im not even a threat in that way lol)

 

[Dolby]

You're talking in ways that all imply you're being truthful about your role. What incentive is there in trusting you at all? If you are the survivor and claim you'll help the town, above all, you've just made yourself a public target to the mafia. Why make that risk at all, instead of just keeping it hidden from everybody else and outlasting your opponents?

The problem with this occurring is that mafia can out themselves and he’ll have to side with them and lynch town. Otherwise he would be nifhtkilled in retribution. Moreover by hiding he’s a possible maf target, by putting himself scum won’t kill since he’s a. Not town and b. His existence lets them win sooner

 

[iLoveYou]

I don't see Rune as being easily manipulated though. In Tina's game, he stood up and voiced his own opinions ( Punchy might be a Town bomb, let's not trust Kayla just based on Day One & etc. ). It was the reason why I wanted to get him out, when I was Mafia that game. He made people think. I think everyone needs to keep an eye on him and put pressure on him throughout the game if he is going to get any passes between Day phases.

 

[Antonio]

i claimed early for two reasons. number one was bc i thought that mafia would be a lot less likely to claim tp first up so i would look a lot more like a survivor if i claimed more than if i claimed later on. number two was bc dolby in particular is very good at reading me, and would def notice smth was up with me and that i prob wasnt a vanilla town if that was what i claimed. this is bad for me if hes town, bc hell assume im maf and start a lynch against me, and if hes maf, as hell assume im blue and will kill me during the night. knowing this, i had to claim survivor right off the bat so that none of that can happen.

also for everyone calling for my blood rn, while i understand where ur coming from id like to point out that my death rly wont help town at all, unless u think im scum. u should prob be looking for someone who u either read as mafia or someone who would give a lot of info on their death, which while i dont rly blame u for the first one i rly dont see the second one at all, since ive literally posted one time. also its like 12 hrs into d1 so maybe cool it a little lol, theres still plenty of time left

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1) If you tried playing as townie then you probably wouldn't have to worry about claiming in the future.
2) You don't have to claim town either, just act like you are town. Don't worry about Dolby reading you.

That was a lot of detailed assumptions for something that most likely would not happen. Maybe you became paranoid and acting out and claimed? Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone takes some time with their posts. Claiming Survivor just left you to being lynched from Mafia instead of you worrying about Dolby reading you and finding suspicious when you have ever control to what you type.

Basically, you worried someone will read you as scum and lynch you so you claimed which means you are now on Mafia radar because you are a threat to them because you are now helping town. I don't believe this because you basically did one thing to avoid lynch but made it worse.

I had more to type but I have to switch classes. It was hard understanding what rune said as well so everything is rushed and my response may not be the best.

 

[illunie]

btw ik this doesnt mean much would a survivor come back as town or mafia to a cop report

 

[iLoveYou]

The problem with this occurring is that mafia can out themselves and he’ll have to side with them and lynch town. Otherwise he would be nifhtkilled in retribution. Moreover by hiding he’s a possible maf target, by putting himself scum won’t kill since he’s a. Not town and b. His existence lets them win sooner

What are your thoughts on Punchy ? He wants Rune lynched and is saying it's such an obvious fake claim. Also, what do you think of CalamityBot saying you should be trusted based on his voiced concerns of Farobi ?

 

[illunie]

1) If you tried playing as townie then you probably wouldn't have to worry about claiming in the future.
2) You don't have to claim town either, just act like you are town. Don't worry about Dolby reading you.

That was a lot of detailed assumptions for something that most likely would not happen. Maybe you became paranoid and acting out and claimed? Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone takes some time with their posts. Claiming Survivor just left you to being lynched from Mafia instead of you worrying about Dolby reading you and finding suspicious when you have ever control to what you type.

Basically, you worried someone will read you as scum and lynch you so you claimed which means you are now on Mafia radar because you are a threat to them because you are now helping town. I don't believe this because you basically did one thing to avoid lynch but made it worse.

I had more to type but I have to switch classes. It was hard understanding what rune said as well so everything is rushed and my response may not be the best.

being worried about being lynched is basically my role tho, ofc im going to want to look as towny as possible. the only thing i rly care about as survivor is that i stay alive until the game ends. hunting for mafia is def still a part of that win condition tho since the faster mafia dies the less opportunities i have to die, so helping town is def still in my best interest. obv all that scumreading stuff will come later, so ye u def have reason to suspect me, so hopefully ill be able to disprove ur suspicions as the game goes on.

also i rly do have reason to fear dolby reading me, hed def pick up i wasnt town and prob either lynch me or kill me at night so claiming was prob still the best course of action for me.

 

[cornimer]

btw ik this doesnt mean much would a survivor come back as town or mafia to a cop report

Any third parties would return as third party on a cop report

 

[illunie]

Any third parties would return as third party on a cop report

o rly wow, ok i didnt expect that tbh. thats pretty cool

 

[Dolby]

What are your thoughts on Punchy ? He wants Rune lynched and is saying it's such an obvious fake claim. Also, what do you think of CalamityBot saying you should be trusted based on his voiced concerns of Farobi ?

Gun to my head, I’d like to think that calamity’s play so far has been town, with my only doubts coming from his lack of experience, Farobi!scum=Dolby!town I actually townread him for because it’s a natural read for a new player to give as town. Trusting anybody who rubs up against his scumleans is a natural new town reaction. I also think that he’s town for the way that he’s pushing Rune, even though I disagree with it, as maf, he’s pushing Rune away from siding with his alignment, and would proabably want a non-aligned survivor off of the lynch table

Punchys tone has come off to me as more aggressive, yet somehow less declarative, than his normal town play, but I’d have to do a full conmparison to explain this which I can’t do now

 

[Antonio]

1) If you tried playing as townie then you probably wouldn't have to worry about claiming in the future.
2) You don't have to claim town either, just act like you are town. Don't worry about Dolby reading you.

That was a lot of detailed assumptions for something that most likely would not happen. Maybe you became paranoid and acting out and claimed? Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone takes some time with their posts. Claiming Survivor just left you to being lynched from Mafia instead of you worrying about Dolby reading you and finding suspicious when you have ever control to what you type.

Basically, you worried someone will read you as scum and lynch you so you claimed which means you are now on Mafia radar because you are a threat to them because you are now helping town. I don't believe this because you basically did one thing to avoid lynch but made it worse.

I had more to type but I have to switch classes. It was hard understanding what rune said as well so everything is rushed and my response may not be the best.

Ahhh, the grammar mistakes. Basically, your 2 points make no sense to me cause you could have just tried playing town and no one would have probably found you guilt. Your long timeline period in point #2 most likely won't happen so basically you claimed out of being paranoid, right? You worried about being lynched for seeming as scum so you claimed but in the end, it just put you on Mafia radar because they know you are now working with Town. Unless, mafia don't lynch you during night. You are obviously a threat and if they don't take you out then it means you are Mafia or just not what you seem to be.

 

[Dolby]

Btw, anybody seriously think that Runes scum. Same principle that I applied to myself in Generic. Wait until assumed LYLO day, if maf don’t out, he’s confirmed fakeing. Sure, we technically lose little by lynching him today, except a chance to catch scum

 

[Antonio]

Btw, anybody seriously think that Runes scum. Same principle that I applied to myself in Generic. Wait until assumed LYLO day, if maf don’t out, he’s confirmed fakeing. Sure, we technically lose little by lynching him today, except a chance to catch scum

I'm also agree we should not lynch Rune.

 

[Dolby]

And again, why would Rune claim tp as maf here? He’s basically confirmed in my eyes bar the chance of him being hostile TP

 

[Antonio]

I*

 

[calamitybot]

Btw, anybody seriously think that Runes scum. Same principle that I applied to myself in Generic. Wait until assumed LYLO day, if maf don’t out, he’s confirmed fakeing. Sure, we technically lose little by lynching him today, except a chance to catch scum

but what if he is the scum???

 

[Antonio]

I fell left out of the conversation. No one is quoting me :c (Time to start some math)

 

[Dolby]

but what if he is the scum??? View attachment 216369

Then he has basically made it so that he will be lynched at a later date because, as I said, if he doesn’t maf side at LYLO (except in a 1v1v1) he’s confirmed scum