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The impossible just happened

If anything good could ever come out of this, I hope it at least makes people more aware of the above fact. You see, with a man like Ted Cruz, this could never happen, even though he holds many of the same disgusting positions. People never pay enough attention, they think Cruz is a "good Christian" man... But with Donald Trump, there is less of a facade. He is so in-your-face that you can't ignore it.

Very well said.

Unfortunately, this just shows how screwed we are when someone else comes around in four years with all of Trump's positions and a pretty face, but without the part of being well, Trump. If you can get this much of this vote to be in realistic reach of victory with all of his baggage included, it is honestly terrifying what could happen with a "normal" politician without all that.
 
it's good to see some trump supporters here. adds some variety. while not a republican, i support trump wholeheartedly.

also, to the people who think the dismissed accusations against trump are relevant(even when courts already went through them), remember this:
Apple2012 said:
The Democratic Party's racist past is irrelevant. It's what they do that matters today.

I pointed this out because this was done 50 years ago and earier, and they have really changed. Trump still hasn't changed, even within 10 years. I may be part of the group that would believe that Trump's tape about women is irrelevant for being in the past, but the fact that he feels proud of it and that he changed still shows how relevant it is.

The advice of "Your past activity doesn't mean anything in the present, your private activity doesn't mean anything in public, and your activity irrelevant to ones' business doesn't mean anything to them" was not to defend Trump to win the election, but I made that advice to protect/support Paula Deen after getting fired from Food Network. Although I find her use of the worst word unacceptable, I refuse to believe the logic that a person who was racist once is a racist for life. Some people actually believe that, and would dig into their personal history to find their racist behavior in the past. But just saying one racist thing doesn't make you a racist. It's actually having the hatred towards a certain race that makes you racist. And if you were like that once but not anymore, you're not a racist. The Democratic Party was like this as well. They used to be the party of white supremacy, but not anymore.

If anything, I would accuse the Democrats for being racist only because they're the party of the Social Justice Warriors and Black Lives Matter, as well as their race baiting and constant use of the race card. Slavery is old news (heck, not even the slave holders in general were the "racists", it's the overseers (the people that abused the slaves) and the supporters of slavery that were the racists). Segregation is old news. The filibuster of the Civil Rights Act is old news. This is what I mean "The Democratic Party's racist past is irrelevant. It's what they do that matters today," as well as dispelling the logic of "if you're a racist once, you're a racist for life". I find racism unacceptable, but I take bullying 10 times, or even 100 times more seriously since you're actually doing what's bad. Even I don't think you're a bully for life if you were once the bully. It's only if you continue in your behavior. That's what Trump is doing. The Dems regret their history of racism, but Trump doesn't regret his behavior towards women.

Yes, I am still a Republican, but this a scenario where I wouldn't even take sides, but defend the Democrats because of this law of societal nature.
 
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I'm okay with Trump.

But, honestly, it's not Hillary I worry about. It's Kaine. I'm sure if Hillary is elected as president, she will be impeached ad maybe even forced to resign. Kaine is about as dumb as a rock.

But Trump. I think his problem is he only sleeps 3 hours a night. I don't know. I just feel like he's mpre trustworthy. And if not, we always have Pence.
 
But Trump. I think his problem is he only sleeps 3 hours a night. I don't know. I just feel like he's mpre trustworthy. And if not, we always have Pence.
I agree. I'm not saying he's a good person. Hilary Clinton just seems so unreasonable and sketchy.
I'm not saying Trump is reasonable at all but I feel like he has a brain.

Though I don't care too much since I live in England.
 
"I'm gonna bomb the **** outta 'em!" -Donald Trump, 2016

"And I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. ...we would be able to totally obliterate them."
-Hillary Clinton


Crossing my fingers Trump stays in the lead.
 
"And I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. ...we would be able to totally obliterate them."
-Hillary Clinton


Crossing my fingers Trump stays in the lead.

He has a good chance now. Hillary is a warmonger. She pretty much caved in to whatever Iran demanded and gave 20% of US uranium to russia while she was secretary. it is so sketchy
 
"And I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. ...we would be able to totally obliterate them."
-Hillary Clinton


Crossing my fingers Trump stays in the lead.

He has a good chance now. Hillary is a warmonger. She pretty much caved in to whatever Iran demanded and gave 20% of US uranium to russia while she was secretary. it is so sketchy
 
CSure trump is an a$$, but at the very least he is honest. The only deplorables in the country are the clinton campaign staff and her foundation tbh.

L. Lawliet said:
Trump at the very least honest
L. Lawliet said:
Trump honest

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Anyways I greatly hate both of them, but I know who I'm voting for to ease my conscience a little.
 
to be honest, i'm not sure how to feel about either candidate and i don't want to have to pick a side. i'll pick hilary though, if only because of trump's AWFUL reputation and his poor track record makes me feel like he's far from being qualified as a decent president.
 
When Hillary Clinton said that Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables, she was wrong. It's more like a freight train of deplorables.
C'mon, that's not biased at all? That kind of talk isn't that far off from what Trump himself has been accused of.

Generalizing like this is not helping anyone. In fact, it only helps stir up the negative emotions and reactions that the government desires. When we are divided, we are much easier to control.
 
C'mon, that's not biased at all? That kind of talk isn't that far off from what Trump himself has been accused of.

Generalizing like this is not helping anyone. In fact, it only helps stir up the negative emotions and reactions that the government desires. When we are divided, we are much easier to control.

It would be nice if the world were such a place where we could all come together after this election and lock arms and get along. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. There are people who are sexist and racist and that shouldn't be tolerated or accepted in the name of peace. Unless you know of a way to "snap people out of" being racist and sexist, then I have no problem calling them deplorables as long as they can't get their act together.
 
It would be nice if the world were such a place where we could all come together after this election and lock arms and get along. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. There are people who are sexist and racist and that shouldn't be tolerated or accepted in the name of peace. Unless you know of a way to "snap people out of" being racist and sexist, then I have no problem calling them deplorables as long as they can't get their act together.

Who says Trump supporters are racist and sexist? The media? The same media that screwed over bernie and jim web in primary's?
You guys and girls aren't getting the bigger picture here. You tout tolerance, but shout out anyone who has an opinion different than yours. That's not tolerance. Hillary is the worst choice for women, LGBT, and for americans overall. She is the corrupt establishment. Fight her! Don't even vote for trump if you despise him. Vote third party(cause if they get over 5% in the election they get more funding in the next cycle). Just please, as a person, listen. She has done such evil things. Let people die. BROKE FEDERAL LAW! Please explain why you all support her though. like srsly.
 
Who says Trump supporters are racist and sexist? The media? The same media that screwed over bernie and jim web in primary's?
You guys and girls aren't getting the bigger picture here. You tout tolerance, but shout out anyone who has an opinion different than yours. That's not tolerance.

There are plenty of videos of people at Trump rallies saying blatantly racist and sexist things. Trump himself is racist and sexist and I don't know how a reasonable person can deny that at this point. Of all the candidates Republicans had to choose from, they willfully picked the most racist and sexist candidate to represent their party. Racism and sexism should not be tolerated because they do not fall under the umbrella of just being an opinion. It is simply wrong and immoral to treat someone differently because of their sex or skin color as Trump does. The U.S. had to resort to a Civil War followed by a long reconstruction period with a heavy military presence because half the country had to be dragged into the modern era of racial equality kicking and screaming. The Union rightfully decided that it wasn't okay to agree to disagree on slavery and racial inequality and a lot of people died for that cause. Sometimes there is clearly a right and a wrong side. So I don't see Trump supporters as people just voicing their opinions but as people who show a lack of character when they willfully choose to vote for a man who has almost no respect for women and minorities. If you dislike Clinton that much, then vote for Gary Johnson as at least he is a decent human being, but don't use stopping Hillary Clinton as your excuse to throw more than 2/3 of the country under the bus by voting for Trump.
 
Who says Trump supporters are racist and sexist? The media? The same media that screwed over bernie and jim web in primary's?
You guys and girls aren't getting the bigger picture here. You tout tolerance, but shout out anyone who has an opinion different than yours. That's not tolerance. Hillary is the worst choice for women, LGBT, and for americans overall. She is the corrupt establishment. Fight her! Don't even vote for trump if you despise him. Vote third party(cause if they get over 5% in the election they get more funding in the next cycle). Just please, as a person, listen. She has done such evil things. Let people die. BROKE FEDERAL LAW! Please explain why you all support her though. like srsly.

Even if there are some supporters that supported Trump for racial reasons (and there are some that supported them because they are truly misogynist), not all of his supporters are racist, homophobic, or sexist. And not all Hillary supporters are anti-American, communists, or anti-Christians. Also, the same people who bash on Trump supporters, calling them racist are the exact same people who called people racist for failing to vote Obama. The thing here, both parties tend to not get along with each other, but it's mostly the liberals that hate conservatives more than conservatives hate liberals. I tend to be an anti-liberal not because they couldn't agree with me, but it's because they have been meaner and ruder towards conservatives (on a quantitative scale) than conservatives ever were to liberals. And this is over political opinions. I don't know why liberals are more immature in general.

So just to give everyone advice, if you really support Hillary, vote her. If you really support Trump, vote him. Either way, they're both complete jerks that are unfit for president. But if you can't get along with people who vote differently without a fight, you need to take a step back without saying a single word.
 
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