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I feel them :^) Reading all of this makes me a little scared. Honestly considering taking a hiatus (But I also want to see how this'll go down tbh)

I'll tell you how it ends, me becoming the newest mod.
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Nah but I think it's bogus.
They were obviously in cahoots.
One does not simply uber hax.
 
The mods will sure have some deleting to do tomorrow.

My question is, if it was a hacking job, why isn't Oath permabanned? And if it wasn't, how would one go about obtaining such information? It doesn't make sense to me.

The reason why (I think) he wasn't banned forever is because Jeremy doesn't believe in permabanning users, except for extreme cases. I only figured that out because a moderator told me that. If they start permabanning users, TBT might start turning into a ghost town like ACC is becoming. But yes, there are some cases that permanent bans are necessary (especially for that board war started by that one user on the old what's bothering you thread that got the thread closed for good). If I were an admin of a forum, I would actually permaban people who engage in multiple offenses. I wouldn't give unlimited chances.

But I bet that he got his golden egg confiscated (I don't know why it isn't under his avatar, but judging by his offenses, I can predict that it was confiscated). So he may not be permabanned, but that is already a big deal.
 
Also, to those concerned that admins can read your PMs, they're only capable of that if they have access to the vBulletin database, and I doubt Jer does. You need to be a higher up within the vBulletin team to do something like that.
 
there's no way he could've hacked. I mean, he could have, but considering you're allowed 5 failed log in attempts, before the forum sends you an email with the IP of the person who tried to access your account, he would have to have got it done in less than 5 attempts, and the chances of that alone are minimal. It's either she handed out her password, or she at least gave a very subtle hint of what her password was, allowing him to access it within the 5 attempts. There's no way it was hacking alone.

I was told by someone I'm not sure would appreciate being named that it wasn't hacking, so it must have been ZR, but even that baffles me. Her being on a hiatus is even more suspicious. I don't like contributing to drama, but this has something to do with our personal information, so I think we have a right to ask these questions.
 
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The reason why (I think) he wasn't banned forever is because Jeremy doesn't believe in permabanning users, except for extreme cases. I only figured that out because a moderator told me that. If they start permabanning users, TBT might start turning into a ghost town like ACC is becoming. But yes, there are some cases that permanent bans are necessary (especially for that board war started by that one user on the old what's bothering you thread that got the thread closed for good). If I were an admin of a forum, I would actually permaban people who engage in multiple offenses. I wouldn't give unlimited chances.

they permaban baba and baba doesn't so anything wrong :(

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The mods will sure have some deleting to do tomorrow.

My question is, if it was a hacking job, why isn't Oath permabanned? And if it wasn't, how would one go about obtaining such information? It doesn't make sense to me.

Deleting and covering things up and not be being straight with us is part of the problem why this forum is going downhill.

I'm surprised Jer even decided to tell us now.
 
Also, to those concerned that admins can read your PMs, they're only capable of that if they have access to the vBulletin database, and I doubt Jer does. You need to be a higher up within the vBulletin team to do something like that.

not true. admins can actually change your password (jeff did it to me once or twice oops did i say that out loud - it wasn't to read pms tho), but it's totally possible. they probs do it when an account has been inactive for a while and then they reads pms and then if/when the user comes back, they probably just think they forgot their password, rather than having an admin change it.
 
Imo it's even more suspicious how no questions are being answered or even acknowledged. Like i get if you can't share who's ip was leaked or whatever.
 
Deleting and covering things up and not be being straight with us is part of the problem why this forum is going downhill.

I'm surprised Jer even decided to tell us now.

I can see where they're coming from though. I mean look at this thread! This is for asking site questions and we're over here debating about site drama. Not saying we don't have a right to discuss this, but like there's no way it's gonna stay here for the whole world to view. But hiding important leaked information? That's another story.

But at the end of the day I agree with Bowie- someone was trying to mess with our personal info and I think we have a right to know what could be happening with it.
 
not true. admins can actually change your password (jeff did it to me once or twice oops did i say that out loud - it wasn't to read pms tho), but it's totally possible. they probs do it when an account has been inactive for a while and then they reads pms and then if/when the user comes back, they probably just think they forgot their password, rather than having an admin change it.

Some of the research I'm doing is based on vBulletin's older stuff so probably. I don't know much about vBulletin's addons so it's possible through something like that maybe.
 
When I joined this community in 2013, I trusted the staff here. If these posts get deleted and we don't receive a full, detailed explanation, I'm gonna be really disappointed. This is not us being curious about the reason behind a ban, this is us being concerned for our accounts and our personal information being extracted by random members, without our permission. It's not fair on us as a community.
 
I can see where they're coming from though. I mean look at this thread! This is for asking site questions and we're over here debating about site drama. Not saying we don't have a right to discuss this, but like there's no way it's gonna stay here for the whole world to view. But hiding important leaked information? That's another story.

But at the end of the day I agree with Bowie- someone was trying to mess with our personal info and I think we have a right to know what could be happening with it.

We could make a thread and continue there but it would no doubt get locked. Deleted even.
 
When I joined this community in 2013, I trusted the staff here. If these posts get deleted and we don't receive a full, detailed explanation, I'm gonna be really disappointed. This is not us being curious about the reason behind a ban, this is us being concerned for our accounts and our personal information being extracted by random members, without our permission. It's not fair on us as a community.

This. Are we safe? Are we still at risk? Is someone looking through my files right now?? We don't need a full explanation on literally everything that happened (although it would be nice) but we at least deserve some kind of something that lets us know everything is resolved and no harm will come to anyone from it.
 
All this is related to drama between members that apparently reached ZR, with her taking Oath's side and giving out IPs of people he didn't want on his tumblr, even though a lot of us were just friends with some of the people he didn't want on his blogs but he somehow convinced ZR to get our IPs as well, when there was no other possible way he could have gotten them (for example, he got an IP from a place I was only at for a wedding and it could have only been through tbt).

I honestly have no qualms disclosing what I've seen during this situation to the rest of the forum until it's deleted. I was surprised I got pulled into this silly drama (and yeah, I think it got silly even on my friends' side) but more surprised when there was a moderator taking part in it, unless she truly thought it was a good idea to give Oath her account info.
 
All this is related to drama between members that apparently reached ZR, with her taking Oath's side and giving out IPs of people he didn't want on his tumblr, even though a lot of us were just friends with some of the people he didn't want on his blogs but he somehow convinced ZR to get our IPs as well, when there was no other possible way he could have gotten them (for example, he got an IP from a place I was only at for a wedding and it could have only been through tbt).

I honestly have no qualms disclosing what I've seen during this situation to the rest of the forum until it's deleted. I was surprised I got pulled into this silly drama (and yeah, I think it got silly even on my friends' side) but more surprised when there was a moderator taking part in it, unless she truly thought it was a good idea to give Oath her account info.

he posted the IPs on his tumblr?
 
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