Mafia The Real Housewives of Mafia - Town Wins

[cornimer]

Ahhhhhhh
I'll go back and do some reading tomorrow but off the top of my head trundle makes the most sense for maf. Chele was only helpful at the very beginning of D1 and trundle has done nothing

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Wait Endless roleblocked me? Lol that's news to me

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Also we should probably definitely lynch mog first because that guarantees us another day

 

[moonford]

mog, if you somehow kill another maf tonight then you should you know...


you're a skinny legend.

 

[Geoni]

mog, if you somehow kill another maf tonight then you should you know...


you're a skinny legend.

Nobody claimed to have been doused N2 and I wasn't the one who roleblocked mog so Abe was probably being honest in that he did roleblock her. So you do realize arsonist can't kill anyone tonight right?

 

[moonford]

Nobody claimed to have been doused N2 and I wasn't the one who roleblocked mog so Abe was probably being honest in that he did roleblock her. So you do realize arsonist can't kill anyone tonight right?

oh...i still don't know how arsonist really work lol

I'm not going to search either because it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[SensaiGallade]

Nobody claimed to have been doused N2 and I wasn't the one who roleblocked mog so Abe was probably being honest in that he did roleblock her. So you do realize arsonist can't kill anyone tonight right?

I can almost confirm Abe roleblocked mog. Evan was messaging me when Abe pm'd her asking about me and who he was roleblocking and from what evan said to me, abe went ahead and roleblocked mog

 

[unravel]

oh ffs waffles!

WAFFLES YOU HAVE NO REASON TO TRICK US JUST GIVE US THE LAST MAF

Why tf did you lie about Panda? You MUDSKIPPER!

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Looks like someone FAILED TO DO exchange with me now im pissed

 

[Geoni]

So

Trundle is the last scum. Read the logs in the spoiler below:

Spoiler

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
waffles wat
why did you lie about Panda
if you were somehow trying to scheme with mafia here they aren't going to help you
of course we can't help you either but still

unravel - Yesterday at 10:24 PM
Your 12 hour TBT mafia discord subscription is now expired. Please reload and contact again.

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
omg Zendel is going to be a pain in the ass
he actually thinks I'm mafia lmfao

unravel - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
Your 12 hour TBT mafia discord subscription is now expired. Please reload and contact again.

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:27 PM
Is it Trundle?
It's probably Trundle

unravel - Yesterday at 10:30 PM
*Deleted *

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:31 PM
I saw it anyways :upside_down:

unravel - Yesterday at 10:31 PM
Oh ****
Dont tell anyone
Please
Please
Please

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
Give me a reason why not. How does it help you?

unravel - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
Daddy dont do this do me

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
If you give me a reason it can wait because ofc mog needs to be lynched tomorrow anyways

unravel - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
He promised me to die tonight
Cuz i made panda to lynch

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
LOL
josdkfjksldaf
Trundle is a scumbucket why would you trust him
He already knows what I pointed out earlier about numbers.
Let me check how many mislynches we have
8 players left, 5 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
After tonight, 7 players left, 4 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
If they kill you tonight that leaves 7 players, 5 town, 1 maf, 1 tp
That loses them a mislynch
and town will lynch mog for safety leaving 6 players, 5 town, 1 maf
If they leave you alive however they will try and make people consider lynching for maf again over mog so there would be 4 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
If they want to win they have to keep you alive for numbers? This is making sense to you right?
So when Trundle gives you this promise how could you even take stock in it?
At least tell me that much

unravel - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
We actually made a deal and this time i trust him
Making short details hete
I guess its fair enuf in case i wont be ded the next day

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
You still can't win even if they keep you around for the sake of surviving via numbers.
So they're using you.
Don't let them use you fam.

unravel - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Ugh fine then post it in public :confounded: :disappointed:
Im such a fool

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Sounds better coming from you.
This game is miserable anyways just out last maf in thread.
I'mma shower and reveal it if you don't.

unravel - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Are u really that desperate omg

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
mostly because I got stuff to do and want this game over
it's distracting me

unravel - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Same

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:57 PM
but I'm guessing what Trundle 'theorized' in the thread earlier about Waffles making a deal with mafia that you would only out one mafia a day if mafia doesn't kill you was true and with him being alone he has no choice but to comply and try and ride it all out?
Smart idea btw
Given you had little left
How did Endless react to this threat just curious lol

December 30, 2017

unravel - Today at 4:55 AM
Just saying
Removed

unravel - Today at 5:49 AM
btw ur dying anyway

Geoni - Today at 6:05 AM
I never woulda guessed!
Guess he's not going to give you what you wanted after all.

unravel - Today at 6:06 AM
sigh

Geoni - Today at 6:06 AM
the blackmailing didn't work?

unravel - Today at 6:06 AM
SIGHHHHH
gonna play town side then
**** it

Geoni - Today at 6:07 AM
Just throw Trundle under the bus smh
short bus

unravel - Today at 6:07 AM
how

Geoni - Today at 6:07 AM
tell him I said throw him under the short bus

unravel - Today at 6:07 AM
I cant win against him

Geoni - Today at 6:08 AM
you copy his logs and put them in a pastebin and show him that you have what you need to get him lynched if he doesn't comply

unravel - Today at 6:08 AM
im too busy i cant check tbt now
Well you cna make a case before times up

Geoni - Today at 6:09 AM
You know what my favorite part of our little chat was?
I actually didn't see your deleted message and got Trundle out of you lmaaaooo

unravel - Today at 6:09 AM
this is against the rules tbh

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
what is

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
discord chat
12 hour is done

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
no he let us
nooo

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
oh
well

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
he said that would start twelve hours after I brought it back up

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
you can make a pm verson if it
HAAHAHAHAHAH
W H O O P S
now what then?

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
not last only twelve hours

unravel - Today at 6:11 AM
boo hoo he can't make a case of last scum
ez :wink:

Geoni - Today at 6:11 AM
Ness posted logs from discord
panda did
I will

unravel - Today at 6:12 AM
****
sorry scums :<

Geoni - Today at 6:13 AM
Hmm does Trundle know I know?

unravel - Today at 6:13 AM
of
this?

Geoni - Today at 6:13 AM
If not you might be able to blackmail him into killing you if he's dumb enough

unravel - Today at 6:13 AM
nope
cuz i know
he will get mad at me HAHAHA
meh doesnt matter now

In case you guys are wondering what is going on here, I basically deduced it was Trundle and then it was confirmed through the chat after she thought I saw a deleted message and played it off like I saw it. And further down the line she confirms and I asked her if the whole 'theory' Trundle had earlier in the thread was what she was trying and yeeeep that's what has been going on. Trundle's post for reference:

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Night-4&p=7755838&viewfull=1#post7755838

Anyways, I'm gonna die tonight. Lynch mog tomorrow. Lynch Trundle the following day if he doesn't surrender.

 

[SensaiGallade]

Trundle is the last scum. Read the logs in the spoiler below:

Spoiler

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
waffles wat
why did you lie about Panda
if you were somehow trying to scheme with mafia here they aren't going to help you
of course we can't help you either but still

unravel - Yesterday at 10:24 PM
Your 12 hour TBT mafia discord subscription is now expired. Please reload and contact again.

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
omg Zendel is going to be a pain in the ass
he actually thinks I'm mafia lmfao

unravel - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
Your 12 hour TBT mafia discord subscription is now expired. Please reload and contact again.

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:27 PM
Is it Trundle?
It's probably Trundle

unravel - Yesterday at 10:30 PM
*Deleted *

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:31 PM
I saw it anyways :upside_down:

unravel - Yesterday at 10:31 PM
Oh ****
Dont tell anyone
Please
Please
Please

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
Give me a reason why not. How does it help you?

unravel - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
Daddy dont do this do me

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
If you give me a reason it can wait because ofc mog needs to be lynched tomorrow anyways

unravel - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
He promised me to die tonight
Cuz i made panda to lynch

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
LOL
josdkfjksldaf
Trundle is a scumbucket why would you trust him
He already knows what I pointed out earlier about numbers.
Let me check how many mislynches we have
8 players left, 5 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
After tonight, 7 players left, 4 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
If they kill you tonight that leaves 7 players, 5 town, 1 maf, 1 tp
That loses them a mislynch
and town will lynch mog for safety leaving 6 players, 5 town, 1 maf
If they leave you alive however they will try and make people consider lynching for maf again over mog so there would be 4 town, 1 maf, 2 tp
If they want to win they have to keep you alive for numbers? This is making sense to you right?
So when Trundle gives you this promise how could you even take stock in it?
At least tell me that much

unravel - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
We actually made a deal and this time i trust him
Making short details hete
I guess its fair enuf in case i wont be ded the next day

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
You still can't win even if they keep you around for the sake of surviving via numbers.
So they're using you.
Don't let them use you fam.

unravel - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Ugh fine then post it in public :confounded: :disappointed:
Im such a fool

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Sounds better coming from you.
This game is miserable anyways just out last maf in thread.
I'mma shower and reveal it if you don't.

unravel - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Are u really that desperate omg

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
mostly because I got stuff to do and want this game over
it's distracting me

unravel - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Same

Geoni - Yesterday at 10:57 PM
but I'm guessing what Trundle 'theorized' in the thread earlier about Waffles making a deal with mafia that you would only out one mafia a day if mafia doesn't kill you was true and with him being alone he has no choice but to comply and try and ride it all out?
Smart idea btw
Given you had little left
How did Endless react to this threat just curious lol

December 30, 2017

unravel - Today at 4:55 AM
Just saying
Removed

unravel - Today at 5:49 AM
btw ur dying anyway

Geoni - Today at 6:05 AM
I never woulda guessed!
Guess he's not going to give you what you wanted after all.

unravel - Today at 6:06 AM
sigh

Geoni - Today at 6:06 AM
the blackmailing didn't work?

unravel - Today at 6:06 AM
SIGHHHHH
gonna play town side then
**** it

Geoni - Today at 6:07 AM
Just throw Trundle under the bus smh
short bus

unravel - Today at 6:07 AM
how

Geoni - Today at 6:07 AM
tell him I said throw him under the short bus

unravel - Today at 6:07 AM
I cant win against him

Geoni - Today at 6:08 AM
you copy his logs and put them in a pastebin and show him that you have what you need to get him lynched if he doesn't comply

unravel - Today at 6:08 AM
im too busy i cant check tbt now
Well you cna make a case before times up

Geoni - Today at 6:09 AM
You know what my favorite part of our little chat was?
I actually didn't see your deleted message and got Trundle out of you lmaaaooo

unravel - Today at 6:09 AM
this is against the rules tbh

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
what is

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
discord chat
12 hour is done

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
no he let us
nooo

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
oh
well

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
he said that would start twelve hours after I brought it back up

unravel - Today at 6:10 AM
you can make a pm verson if it
HAAHAHAHAHAH
W H O O P S
now what then?

Geoni - Today at 6:10 AM
not last only twelve hours

unravel - Today at 6:11 AM
boo hoo he can't make a case of last scum
ez :wink:

Geoni - Today at 6:11 AM
Ness posted logs from discord
panda did
I will

unravel - Today at 6:12 AM
****
sorry scums :<

Geoni - Today at 6:13 AM
Hmm does Trundle know I know?

unravel - Today at 6:13 AM
of
this?

Geoni - Today at 6:13 AM
If not you might be able to blackmail him into killing you if he's dumb enough

unravel - Today at 6:13 AM
nope
cuz i know
he will get mad at me HAHAHA
meh doesnt matter now

In case you guys are wondering what is going on here, I basically deduced it was Trundle and then it was confirmed through the chat after she thought I saw a deleted message and played it off like I saw it. And further down the line she confirms and I asked her if the whole 'theory' Trundle had earlier in the thread was what she was trying and yeeeep that's what has been going on. Trundle's post for reference:

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Night-4&p=7755838&viewfull=1#post7755838

Anyways, I'm gonna die tonight. Lynch mog tomorrow. Lynch Trundle the following day if he doesn't surrender.

Why is it no suprise that the replacement is the last maf -_-

Chele's play D2 made it more obvious that she could possibly be scum, but once Trundle replaced her, he was almost ignored completely by everyone.

 

[cornimer]

More reasons why scum Trundle makes sense, although we don't really need any at this point (thanks Waffles) but I started typing this up last night so may as well finish.

Now, to tell the truth guys, I had Punchy as a null at the time. I didn’t actually mean to have my post as to actually side with them. I just agreed with Dolby’s point. I didn’t PM Endless though (I just needed to clarify with Dolby first). For your information, it wasn’t an alignment slip that I had caught. Remember how Dolby mentioned that it was something to prove that Punchy was serious? Yeah, well refer to post #177. Punchy slipped in terms of Dolby saying that his post was serious. Remember how I was saying that Punchy was clearly reacting to a joke post, and how I used the Unicorn example? Well something just popped into my head, and when I flicked to post 177, I found out that he had slipped and admitted that he retracted it and said that Dolby had an OMGUS reaction.

I feel bad picking at Chele's posts because she was clearly very busy, but this one reminded me very heavily of last game where she was scum. She shows up and defends herself over something very miniscule that happened 50 pages ago (this post was made 2 days after what is referenced in the post happened, after Punchy was lynched). Of course it's important to defend oneself but I'm pretty sure everyone townread her at this time, so to post this defense after two days of silence seems a little questionable.

The only other topic she touched on in this post is Farobi.

Okay so as I was reading this from the start of the game, I feel like Farobi is very lightly grasping on straws. The way that he points out Zendel’s post being weird because “his constant corrections is something scum would do when they re-read their post over and over again to ensure it sounding town” makes me think over him. That post just doesn’t sit right with me, that post is lacking evidence.
-quote from farobi-
Im going to leave this as a side note and future note for reference. I just wanted to point out that I dislike how Farobi is comparing Dedenne to a completely different player — Chick. He even made more posts about Chick’s playstyle and compares it to Dedenne. This is just like when Bianca compared my posts to Tina’s playstyle in BOTW last game. Yes, I was scum last game, but I feel like comparing somebody’s playstyle to somebody else’s is pretty bad and sloppy reasoning. I know that this was a last-minute lynch train, but even so, looking at someone else’s playstyle is very low and seems pushy.
Now Farobi claimed detective, right? Oh my goodness we’ve had so many blue claims. I bet you that Mafia doesn’t need to talk in scum chat about who they’re gonna kill because we are giving away blues as if we’re giving out free food.

Points for contributing to discussion, but...Farobi was already practically confirmed detective at this time. She even acknowledges this at the end of the post. So why make points against someone who is already confirmed? Not really valuable to the current scumhunting efforts.

Trundle has only posted 10 times since replacing in, which I think is telling in and of itself. Of these 10 posts, only two have any value. One was his theory on Waffles:

I am wondering if Waffles is blackmailing the mafia team right now. She might have only revealed one true mafia member and will out one more member every day they don't kill her.

But Dad already touched on this in his post.

The other was this one:

Well the fact that literally no one has tried to bring me up to speed yet and no one has PMed me at all should go to show that my role is irrelevant to the game. I'm not going to put in any hardcore effort to make it seem like I'm a blue because I'm pretty sure mafia is ignoring me anyway because I haven't contributed anything.

I think Panda is town just based on her posting style. I was pretty surprised to see her up for lynch (just like approximately Day 2 in most other games) where people want to lynch her just because her posts don't align with consensus. In my opinion that shows a more town vibe than going with the flow. In early game, a going against the status quo is usually a good sign.

Not sure what I'm feeling from Dad/Endless/Dolby. Finding kinda hard to read them all together. If there is any telling information based on deaths/claims so far could someone fill me in? After that it will be a bit easier to clear up the rest of my reads.

The blue comment in the first paragraph is strange. Is he softing blue? But...there haven't been any unaccounted for blue actions. Maybe he just said this to scare us off of sussing him. Also I understand he had a lot to catch up on and felt very out of the loop, but saying this is an easy way to get out of contributing as scum.
The Panda comment is fine. The last comment about Dad/Dolby/Endless says nothing, and to be fair nobody filled him in like he asked, but maybe he just said that so as not to give away which of these three players he is on a team with.

 

[moonford]

If it isn't trundle then it's dad.

Find it hard to trust him.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Zendel, Dad is absolutely 100% town mdude

 

[moonford]

Although, Trundle would make sense.

Chele knew what was different between her play last time and this time, and used that to blind us. It was at the back of my mind but I town read her because I liked her content and she differed quite a bit between her two games. Trundle on the other-hand has been almost non-existent and hasn't said anything meaningful, which is evident in other games; not the inactivity, the meaningless content and he usually posts a lot of it. So it's weird to see him kind of ditching the game.

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Zendel, Dad is absolutely 100% town mdude

OKAY

 

[Geoni]

smh ya'll need to surrender @mog and Trundle

 

[moonford]

This game is dragging on for no reason, guys just end this already.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Sorry I haven't checked the thread in like over a day but I'm gonna read through. I see people think I'm scum. Feel free to lynch me today (unless it's night then feel free to shoot me)

 

[moonford]

Funny how you pop up when people start sussing you.

 

[EpicGamer12]

I just marathoned the new Black Mirror season so I'm not just exhausted I'm existentially drained.

Yeah that was also me, which is why I wasn't on yesterday lol between that and work and DND

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Just going to point out that I have never PMed anyone in this game. I think Dad asked me a single question on Discord and Ness sent me one or two PMs. I have not communicated with Waffles once this game. If you think I have, Waffles, could you provide logs of our conversation? Yeah, thanks, bye

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Also I didn't read that full log only the part where Waffles said that I was in contact with her about death. It's not the case and the fact that Waffles is saying this would be 100% playing against her win condition. She would be modkilled right now if she was what she claimed.

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Funny how you pop up when people start sussing you.

Don't talk to me

 

[moonford]

Stop being a jerk to people then.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Stop being a jerk to people then.

Lol what? I'm not being a jerk. I just got back to the game and you call me out for inactivity even though I replaced into this game despite my busy schedule. You're being an ass to me just based on the fact I've been busy. The accusations against me came out of nowhere.

 

[moonford]

Lol what? I'm not being a jerk. I just got back to the game and you call me out for inactivity even though I replaced into this game despite my busy schedule. You're being an ass to me just based on the fact I've been busy. The accusations against me came out of nowhere.

...

Are you for real? Your lack of self awareness is scary. I'm not talking about your inactivity, I'm talking about your attitude towards people. It's appalling and I'm being an ass because you are an ass.