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We're doomed.

This thread is going downhill. Honestly I don't like trump at all since he is basically the worst president i've seen. id rather have a two faced lier than a guy who legit might start WW3
 
Akira-chan said:
This thread is going downhill. Honestly I don't like trump at all since he is basically the worst president i've seen. id rather have a two faced lier than a guy who legit might start WW3
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Political debates tend to get really heated, as there are some members on any site (especially tumblr) who will always be uncivil when politics is being discussed.
 
Apple2012 said:
Political debates tend to get really heated, as there are some members on any site (especially tumblr) who will always be uncivil when politics is being discussed.
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ok ima be honest here, i don't like it when people use tumblr as an insult or an example of extremists. not ALL of tumblr is that way, and if you only see it that way or only see it on your dash on tumblr its your fault because you actively search for it. its very hard unless you search for it to find extremists. but whatever i guess
 
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MasterM64 said:
You make Trump sound so evil, but let me ask you some questions:

1 & 6 [some of 2 as well]) How is enforcing the law (deporting illegal immigrants) and protecting the public (especially women & LGBT+) from undocumented individuals (bringing in Syrian refugees) racist?

2) How is Trump sexist? I do realize he may have said some things in the past, but last I checked, the majority of executives in his company are women and he treats all of his female employees with respect. How does putting women in power and treating them with respect in his workforce sexist?

3) How is Trump a LGBT+ hater? I have been keeping track of the election stuff and I have yet to see a article of Trump making any form of condemnation of the LGBT+ community. Can you prove that He is?

4) You do realize that by being as rich as he is that a lot of women would naturally throw themselves at him and that he is not the one initializing it? Also, do you honestly think that he is that now after being married to a very incredible woman and having a bunch of amazing children?

5) If your national security was at stake and you knew that a terrorist was at a given location, but had his family around him, what would you do? Also keep in mind that sending special forces in a lot of locations in the Middle East is extremely dangerous.

Before you start jumping to conclusions about Trump, really think about the possible logic behind some things he says. Also keep in mind that the media (including Fox News) is biased and is doing whatever it can to make their candidate of choice win.
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1. He called immigrants rapists and murderers. Also the U.S. is literally up the asses of every refugee who enters this country with in depth background checks, not letting in anyone with any connections to terrorism or jihadism.

2. He objectifies and insults women constantly. Also he said women should be legally punished for having abortions.

3. He opposes gay marriage and said he'd appoint supreme court justices to overturn the beautiful gayluv we have fought for

4. He has made some very "questionable" (at best) statements about his daughter, and his children aren't really amazing. Honestly does it really seem like he's changed that much? If you heard his comments he seemed to think that he could to whatever he wants because he's a star, even if he's used to some women flirting with him that doesn't mean he has a free pass on consent for any hot piece of a$$ that passes his way.

5. Ok let's kill civilians too because who knows they might be evil terrorists their lives don't matter that much xD
Not to mention killing civilians fuels extremism and hate towards America and allows ISIS to recruit more people
 
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Akira-chan said:
This thread is going downhill. Honestly I don't like trump at all since he is basically the worst president i've seen. id rather have a two faced lier than a guy who legit might start WW3
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he isn't president though
 
I like how nobody started actively hating on Trump until he started to run for the presidency.

I also like how I'm not seeing any recent criticisms on Clinton. Is she a saint or something?

I saw a kid in my school earlier today, wearing a shirt that said "Hillary for prison 2016". I tried not to laugh loudly in the hallway, but I thought it was funny.

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Akira-chan said:
This thread is going downhill. Honestly I don't like trump at all since he is basically the worst president i've seen. id rather have a two faced lier than a guy who legit might start WW3
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All I said was that we're doomed. I have no idea what is going on in here anymore xD
 
Dixx said:
1. He called immigrants rapists and murderers. Also the U.S. is literally up the asses of every refugee who enters this country with in depth background checks, not letting in anyone with any connections to terrorism or jihadism.

2. He objectifies and insults women constantly. Also he said women should be legally punished for having abortions.

3. He opposes gay marriage and said he'd appoint supreme court justices to overturn the beautiful gayluv we have fought for

4. He has made some very "questionable" (at best) statements about his daughter, and his children aren't really amazing. Honestly does it really seem like he's changed that much? If you heard his comments he seemed to think that he could to whatever he wants because he's a star, even if he's used to some women flirting with him that doesn't mean he has a free pass on consent for any hot piece of a$$ that passes his way.

5. Ok let's kill civilians too because who knows they might be evil terrorists their lives don't matter that much xD
Not to mention killing civilians fuels extremism and hate towards America and allows ISIS to recruit more people
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Thank you for actually defending the claims why Trump is evil, but supporting one candidate doesn't make you evil yourself. Just hating people for not agreeing with you is immature, and getting violent about it is inhumane.

I find it funny that the Trump protestors were almost the same people who called people "racist" for not voting Obama in 2008 or 2012. But conservatives behave like this too. There were actually some Trump supporters who got violent against Trump opponents too.

I would not refute to any of these arguments since that does make him evil, but the third thing, I am ambivalent about it. I do not support taking away LGBT rights. I don't. However, I am against the Supreme Court case from 2015, mainly for one reason. It's not their job to write the laws. It's not their job to make human rights legal. They're supposed to interpret the laws, make sure they're constitutional or not. They should throw out the laws that are unconstitutional, not throw out the constitution to pass a law or executive action. I would actually support overturning the ruling, but I also support creating an amendment that legalizes same-sex marriage everywhere in the US while making it illegal to put marriage into politics at any level (which means you can't restrict marriage anymore).
 
What's sad is that 13/50 states don't allow same sex marriage or at least gay marriage. :( If Trump wins he will probably make the situation worse as if deporting the illegals wasn't enough.
 
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ShayminSkies said:
What's sad is that 37/50 states don't allow same sex marriage or at least gay marriage. :( If Trump wins he will probably make the situation worse as if deporting the illegals wasn't enough.
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I know it's unfortunate. But if my pro-LGBT amendment was made a constitutional amendment, it would be forced nationwide. We did this with the 13th amendment, 14th amendment, 15th amendment, and 19th amendment, so I bet it would work with this amendment. And don't mention repeals. We did this to the 18th amendment for extraordinary reasons. We're not gonna do it to the other amendments.
 
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What's sad is that 37/50 states don't allow same sex marriage or at least gay marriage. :( If Trump wins he will probably make the situation worse as if deporting the illegals wasn't enough.
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Wait... wasn't gay marriage legalized in the USA this year?
 
Apple2012 said:
I would not refute to any of these arguments since that does make him evil, but the third thing, I am ambivalent about it. I do not support taking away LGBT rights. I don't. However, I am against the Supreme Court case from 2015, mainly for one reason. It's not their job to write the laws. It's not their job to make human rights legal. They're supposed to interpret the laws, make sure they're constitutional or not. They should throw out the laws that are unconstitutional, not throw out the constitution to pass a law or executive action. I would actually support overturning the ruling, but I also support creating an amendment that legalizes same-sex marriage everywhere in the US while making it illegal to put marriage into politics at any level (which means you can't restrict marriage anymore).
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Absolutely. I'm pretty sure that there is no clause anywhere in the constitution that says same sex marriage is an abomination and should never be allowed. It's the state's decision, anyways; it's not up to the national government to decide marriage laws.
 
Oh I'm so sorry I got it wrong. I meant 37 legalized gay marriage. That's better lol

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so 13 don't allow it yet :/
 
ShayminSkies said:
Cause no one has heard of this man until he decided to embarrass himself by running for president.
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My parents had heard lots about the man before he ran for office. That's why they dislike him so much. He's done sexist/racist things in the past, which really turns them off for him being president.
Though yeah, lots of younger people (including myself) that weren't around those 20 years or so ago didn't know who he was until his run for presidency.
 
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King Dad said:
speaking of commies, i forgot that Trump is smitten by vladimir putin, that could indeed cause some problems stateside and abroad if trump were to win...
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What I want to know is why people are so scared of being allied with Russia, the nation that has more numerous and more powerful nukes than us and is not afraid at all to launch them. There is no reason why we shouldn't be working together with Russia to crush real threats such as terrorism.

Now, Hillary on the other hand, who wants to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria... Oh God no
 
Sadly both aren't the best for America but Hilary would be our best bet for presidency mainly because i dont find her as stupid as Trump. Hopefully he doesnt win
 
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