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Mafia Wrath of the Egyptian Gods - Kingmaker (Game Thread) Endgame

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main scumreads are Vanessa and Waffles, insane how they've glided through this game with barely any callouts tbh
Resisting asking you about sentence one for reason, but I mean I'd be a pretty lame king if I just lynched someone the second I got kinged. Probably the scummiest thing anyone could do in a forum kingmaker. But is there a particular reason you believe Vanessa is scummier than Bianca? Or do you find them both to be equally scummy here?

Waffles is definitely lacking content wise I agree, but I don't think we should expect anything from her if I'm honest.
 
I actually townlean Bianca cos of her attitude, working on Vanessa and Waffles but I'm at tutoring rn so it'll be a few hours. I'm confident 1 is scum, at least.
 
Few quick things while I'm getting ready for class:

- Heyden's claim is awkwardly phrased and I don't like that he said he was planning not to tell us. It's in our best interests to know as much as possible. Why not just say "I was shot" and leave it at that? Nice and simple.
- 5-man scum team for 20 player game seems unlikely. At this point not sure what to think of 3 possible shots and where they came from.
- It feels like Bianca is doing that thing again: intentionally being obvious to protect a stronger teammate. This is how she acted to protect Dolby last game.

Will come back to those after I've had time to think about each of them properly. Don't have the time to really play just now. See ya later.
 
@Tom why wouldn't we be expecting anything from Waffles?
If I remember how Waffles used to play (not sure if it's changed recently), Waffles used to be a low content poster? I feel like Waffles was one we constantly had to @ in order to get information from them.

Few quick things while I'm getting ready for class:
- 5-man scum team for 20 player game seems unlikely. At this point not sure what to think of 3 possible shots and where they came from.
Do you think it's more likely that it was a third party killer than vigilante though? I know that while I suggested Heyden get shot by a Vig, I don't think one would have done that and especially done it on N1 given how D1 turned out.
 
If I remember how Waffles used to play (not sure if it's changed recently), Waffles used to be a low content poster? I feel like Waffles was one we constantly had to @ in order to get information from them.

Yep and I scumslip easily a lot of people can tell when I scumslip like my post in FNAF mafia (which is not long ago tbh) and was silent in game tbh
 
I seriously wanted Chick to be a king as a suggested few hours ago because she's my strongest townlean.
Trundle is good choice to be a king he is determine who to lynch but aside from Tina who else does he want to be lynched?
Wanted as well Tina or Kermit but I'm kind of iffy about it my choices above esp Tina vs Trundle thing

Can Dolby be the king again? Is there a limit?

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scumpool:
sensai - currently isoing sensai and i'm pretty sure he is mafia. empty questions, doesn't seem to be analyzing the thread. sensai mentions two times that they "wanna reread the thread later" when it comes to evan and also panda but fails to pursuit this information. also don't like the quote talking about how they believe newer players should be given kingship to allow them into the spotlight. you don't need to be king to direct a lynch. sensai's assumption is that only the king has weight in the matter. it falls on all town who are not actively pursuing a lynch. people shouldn't shy away from voicing their opinions just because they're not king. in fact, anyone who wasnt voicing their opinions on a different lynch target had a direct role in evans lynch as much as the people who voiced their opinions in favor of his lynch.
tom - your reads were entertaining to read but i feel like you were bull****ting an essay. i'm not saying being fluffy is scummy, it's just there are some parts were i feel as if you repeated yourself in three different ways to make one commentary. i feel as if the content was low for how much you wrote - there's a lot of nulls and paraphrasing and i'm not sure if you were identifying any specific moments in time. you were mostly summarizing in a broader context. i'm not sure if you were being fluffy to cover up your low content, but i do feel like you could've been a bit more concise without losing any of the entertainment factor.
hayden - not inquisitive, not proactive in making reads/accusations/etc and has been way too reactive in his content. don't really have time to write more and haven't ISO'd so i can't be too specific here
bianca/vanessa - likely one scum between them both, definitely not a team
cleb, byngo/tae & waffles dont have time to write this and theres not much to write on anyway but i got bad vibes from clebs few posts and byngo seemed a bit less relaxed when she was posting. definitely let tae have time to catch up though, and he's not a reasonable d2 lynch. as for waffles, my gut srs them a LOT
toadsworthy - third i guess, not a reasonable d2 lynch but pay attention to KP on n1 also if theres vig dont shoot n1


to clarify, i'm not saying that everyone in the scumpool is mafia together. if i wanted to i could've made a null list where some of my reads would fit better, but i feel that's not effective to put pressure that needs to be on them. i do feel as if i'm making mistakes in my trs, after tina my confidence actually drops off a lot. i also find it hard to believe at the moment that dolby/trundle/kat are all town. so yeah theres that too. also i'm starting to believe panda's town and people are trying to use her for lynchbait............... PS if sensais maf then bianca is likely town and vanessa is mafia as well.

d2 lynch sensai imo, but anyone in the scumpool is up for grabs really. queen me if alive pls. if not then tina/kat should take the throne, tina's my strongest tr at the moment and although kat's not my strongest tr i do believe that a lot can be learned from her rule

SORRY FOR LAST MINUTE READS! So, this is my reads post that I’ve managed to gather. I don’t expect you to read the whole thing, I swear majority of people just look at their own part and that’s it. I looked at everybody's posts right now and I’m trying not to have too many nulls on my list. Since there’s 20 people (including kingmaker) on the list, I’m judging and assuming that there’s 3 scums.


Key:
Scum
Scumlean
TP
Suspicious
Townlean
Town
Unsure



Trundle — I’m having him down as scumlean now. Looking back at all his posts, it looks like he susses people A LOT. Early game, he susses Tina;

In my opinion, he is faulting a lot of things. This one was pointed at Zendel:


He said he’ll pick between those three, but then he turn around and says;


He always dramatically changes his susses, e.g. it went from Tina, Glow and Panda to Sensai and Toads, and it seems like he dropped his scumread from Glow. Yes, it is absolutely okay to change your thoughts of people, but he is very quick to point fingers. He has been attacking Tina for no exact reason. Sure, he might say “Her frustration and AtE is really scummy” but that’s the only reason, and in Tina's paragraph I can backfire that. Yes, I said I was going to townlean him before but just looking at an overview of all of his posts, it doesn’t convince me anymore. He also seems to be agreeing with Eternal Leader Dolby a lot, probably as F11 said, to appease him and gain his trust. The only thing that Trundle doesn’t agree with in Dolby was Dolby townleaning Tina.
Sensai — I’m townleaning Sensai. He said his timing isn’t exactly ideal, but his post quality is actually good and he has valid reasoning towards things. Honestly, I like these posts;


These posts feel Townie-like to me especially with the defensive posts, and I feel like half of my read on Sensai is also like a bit of a gut feeling. The only thing that I’m concerned about is his lack of posts.
Evan — I’m not a fan of his posts at all. His reads feel jumbled up and honestly, looking back through his post history, majority of his posts are actually just random f posting like;


And he tries to cover himself up with acting confused near start of the game;


Also, in FNAF Mafia I was scum with Evan, alongside Waffles. Evan exactly does this sort of stuff, and I’m gonna say that I have pretty confident reads on him.
Vanessa — Honestly, all of her posts actually feel like the same as last game, in Caxnival. She doesn’t seem like she’s being coached, and fun fact: look back in Caxnival and she always sheeped, from what I remember.
Dolby — I’m running out of time to do my reads, but for Dolby I’m going to mention that I can’t read him at all, and I need to have a very careful and long look back at his posts. I’m very slightly leaning him towards town so far.
Toads — I believe his TP claim. If he was a scum, he’d have a safeclaim and use that to claim to be a Townie or something. Even if he didn’t want to claim Townie, the least he would do is to claim a blue role. I would never imagine a scum claiming to be a TP. And I believe that there could be a TP in this game, so I believe him.
xCleb — Lack of posts; pending replacement.
Bianca — Bianca is suspicious for me, due to her very short post quality. Take a look at these posts.

Those are 5 examples that I just gave you that Bianca is low quality posting.
I also found it really funny that she answered this:

She basically admitted that she leaves the thread after she makes posts, she admitted that she has the worst quality posts and she even admitted that she ignores people. Very suspicious, but not suspicious enough to the point on where I scumlean her.
Waffles — People are scumleaning Waffles, but this is the typical town Waffles I know. Town Waffles often is all over the place and has short but good reasoning. I was scum with Waffles, alongside Evan in FNAF Mafia and Scum Waffles just asks questions, pretends to be clueless and etc.
Tom — I’m really sitting on the fence of Tom. Tom's behaviour of somewhat saving and driving all the suspicion away from Panda and saying to focus on Evan is suspicious. But other than that, I like Tom's post quality and as I mentioned a bit of times earlier, his play seems like the normal town him.
Heyden — I think Heyden is suspicious because he only made one page worth of posts. I know they say “Quality over quantity” but I’ve looked at Heyden's posts and they don’t really have that much quality in them. I’m not sure if he’s busy or rushed or what not, but I’d drop him down down to townlean at least if he posts more.
Tina — She’s a townlean because I’ve never seen her use AtE in a game before which obviously means that she’s town because she would never take this approach and if she did as a scum then she would be taking a huge risk which I doubt. We can all understand her frustration and in my opinion she is not suspicious at all. Her posts seem genuine and Evan has no reason to scumread her.
Arstotzkan — Kat seems like a good Town player and I like her contribution to this game so far. Honestly I have never been able to read Kat but I think that she is town. Also, I am running out of time to write all of this so I’ll just speed through the rest of the people.
Jacob — Unlike Heyden, I am going to put Jacob down as unsure for this because he said he has to choose schools and stuff but I hope he posts more when he comes back.
Ryumia — she is probably the strongest town read I have and that’s what I’m almost townlocking her. For a newbie, she has made a very good case for herself and she has her own opinions that don’t feel scripted at all. As I mentioned before:

Glow — Her posts so far feel Town. She doesn’t post that much but I remember her once when she was Town saying that she doesn’t make that much reads and posts on D1 and I can get that from BOTW. I've gotta do something soon so I’m going to quickly finish off these reads.
Panda — I’m unsure about her because I feel that her reactions and lurking is suspicious but at the same time I read through Caxnival and her behaviour seemed the same.
F11 — I’m townleaning F11 because of their point about people trying to appease Dolby, and I actually don’t see why people (including Evan ofc) are sussing F11.


Done. Sorry about the rushed reads.




SUMMARY
Chick's suspicions are Trundle, Bianca and Heyden
Glow's suspicions are Sensai, Tom, Hayden, Toads, Bianca or Vanessa (one of them is scum), Cleb, Tae and Waffles
Similar suspisions: Heyden and Bianca

I really don't find any suspicions from Vanessa, Heyden and Trundle

Right now in doubts with Bianca because refer my post here (

Slowly Heyden, Sensai, and Chick agreed and post their thoughts on Bianca as well.

I'm not sure with Tom I dunno why some people suspected him
 
My hit is easily confirmable by someone or me (not saying how) , it's suicide for me to claim being hit if mafia, I'd rather keep scum in the dark so if you really wanna keep pursuing this then alright I'll say why.

As for why I didn't claim immediately, I was heavily contemplating it bc it would probs mean I'd be knocked off next.

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just got home I'll finish my reads I guess
 
My hit is easily confirmable by someone or me (not saying how) , it's suicide for me to claim being hit if mafia, I'd rather keep scum in the dark so if you really wanna keep pursuing this then alright I'll say why.

As for why I didn't claim immediately, I was heavily contemplating it bc it would probs mean I'd be knocked off next.

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just got home I'll finish my reads I guess

Awkward editing quotes on phone but:

@"...if you really wanna keep persuing this..."

No. You've said enough. Thank you.
 
If I remember how Waffles used to play (not sure if it's changed recently), Waffles used to be a low content poster? I feel like Waffles was one we constantly had to @ in order to get information from them.

Do you think it's more likely that it was a third party killer than vigilante though? I know that while I suggested Heyden get shot by a Vig, I don't think one would have done that and especially done it on N1 given how D1 turned out.

Not really sure right now. Need to think about it a little more. I don't recall you suggesting that, but if you did then it could very well be a vig.
 
My hit is easily confirmable by someone or me (not saying how) , it's suicide for me to claim being hit if mafia, I'd rather keep scum in the dark so if you really wanna keep pursuing this then alright I'll say why.

As for why I didn't claim immediately, I was heavily contemplating it bc it would probs mean I'd be knocked off next.

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just got home I'll finish my reads I guess

I don't know why you keep talking about it, you've said too much now in my opinion.
 
I don't know why you keep talking about it, you've said too much now in my opinion.
Yeah it sucks but I guess I have to really spell it out for some people. I was hit, claiming hit as maf is honestly suicide, I should be like 99% town at this point. Will obv claim what/how tomorrow if I live.
 
Yeah it sucks but I guess I have to really spell it out for some people. I was hit, claiming hit as maf is honestly suicide, I should be like 99% town at this point. Will obv claim what/how tomorrow if I live.

If you're telling the truth this might conflict Toad's claim I dunno if anyone agrees with that
 
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