Mafia Xenoblade Chronicles Mafia-Endgame

[Chrystina]

I said "felt" as in past tense.

oh, woops. Misread.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

What I find interesting is Tom is both a lyncher AND survivor? Does that always happen?
Why would his wincon be targeted to a blue role?
That's pretty maf sided to me. Obviously not saying you are maf sided, Tom, but damn. Why wincon = lynch a blue role. Messed up.

Lynchers are typically anti-town roles. They are literally playing for themselves and only themselves as their goal is to lynch the target. And honestly I'd rather be a survivor than a Fool/Jester, because honestly I'd never get lynched even if I pressed all the right buttons.

 

[xine]

What I find interesting is Tom is both a lyncher AND survivor? Does that always happen?
Why would his wincon be targeted to a blue role?
That's pretty maf sided to me. Obviously not saying you are maf sided, Tom, but damn. Why wincon = lynch a blue role. Messed up.






You claim townie but then you said you need to role claim? Didn't you already?
That confused me.


Also Cory, in response to your slight scum read on me - I'm not being defensive at all. I'm just trying to see why anyone who is sus of me, thinks so. b/c the only one to give a case on me so far is Tom. Which would mean anyone else is just hopping on some bandwagon, and that's how I'll find scum.

Are you saying that you fully believe Tom's claim?

Why did you read that post but not the context of it? I directly asked him why he roleclaimed.

 

[Chrystina]

Lynchers are typically anti-town roles. They are literally playing for themselves and only themselves as their goal is to lynch the target. And honestly I'd rather be a survivor than a Fool/Jester, because honestly I'd never get lynched even if I pressed all the right buttons.

So do lynchers usually get another role? Like with yours?
I'm still trying to understand fully 3rd party roles. Keep in mind, my first game 3rd party was basically another scum team so now I just see them as anti-town, but reading back on other games it's hard to understand fully what they could be doing.

Are you saying that you fully believe Tom's claim?

Why did you read that post but not the context of it? I directly asked him why he roleclaimed.

I still do not fully 100% believe it, no. but there has been no CC, which leads me to almost having to.
Yeah that was my fault. I was just ISOing his posts. Going back and reading through the actual thread I see it now, and that I misread it.

 

[Cory]

So do lynchers usually get another role? Like with yours?
I'm still trying to understand fully 3rd party roles. Keep in mind, my first game 3rd party was basically another scum team so now I just see them as anti-town, but reading back on other games it's hard to understand fully what they could be doing.

I still do not fully 100% believe it, no. but there has been no CC, which leads me to almost having to.
Yeah that was my fault. I was just ISOing his posts. Going back and reading through the actual thread I see it now, and that I misread it.

His role won't be cced no scum or third party would claim it.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

So do lynchers usually get another role? Like with yours?
I'm still trying to understand fully 3rd party roles. Keep in mind, my first game 3rd party was basically another scum team so now I just see them as anti-town, but reading back on other games it's hard to understand fully what they could be doing.

It depends on how the host wanted to work it. When I had a Lyncher in Person of Interest Mafia, when they failed their first target I gave them a second and final target. After that they essentially lost. Lynchers operate a lot like Executioners from Town of Salem, in which they have a target to lynch. But the Executioner in ToS instead changes into a Jester and their goal is to be lynched.

It's ultimately up to host discretion, given the character and theme of the game Daniel decided this was the best course of action since my character (based off what I read on the wiki) would have no motivation to go after any other character. Rather than just remove me from game (and negatively affect town numbers) I'm a survivor. At least that's my thought process for this all.

 

[Chrystina]

His role won't be cced no scum or third party would claim it.

Hmm.
If it is a 3rd party role though, I would assume the other would CC because then that just gives us an obvious maf member.

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It depends on how the host wanted to work it. When I had a Lyncher in Person of Interest Mafia, when they failed their first target I gave them a second and final target. After that they essentially lost. Lynchers operate a lot like Executioners from Town of Salem, in which they have a target to lynch. But the Executioner in ToS instead changes into a Jester and their goal is to be lynched.

It's ultimately up to host discretion, given the character and theme of the game Daniel decided this was the best course of action since my character (based off what I read on the wiki) would have no motivation to go after any other character. Rather than just remove me from game (and negatively affect town numbers) I'm a survivor. At least that's my thought process for this all.

I see. Thanks for clearing that up

 

[Cory]

Her being a survivor also fits what happens to her later in the game.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Hmm.
If it is a 3rd party role though, I would assume the other would CC because then that just gives us an obvious maf member.

If their is another 3rd party, they will not have the same rolename. Think about it, the opening post states all rolenames are unique. So while the possibility that there's another Survivor in the game, they wouldn't bother ccing because what's the point? It'd be Trump Maf all over again with the two docs discussion.

 

[xine]

So do lynchers usually get another role? Like with yours?
I'm still trying to understand fully 3rd party roles. Keep in mind, my first game 3rd party was basically another scum team so now I just see them as anti-town, but reading back on other games it's hard to understand fully what they could be doing.

I still do not fully 100% believe it, no. but there has been no CC, which leads me to almost having to.
Yeah that was my fault. I was just ISOing his posts. Going back and reading through the actual thread I see it now, and that I misread it.

Third parties can side with whoever they want to depending on their role. Even if Tom's claim is true, if it came down to it, I do not think he would hesitate to maf-side to win. The fact that you are believing him because there is no CC is strange. Nobody would CC a third party in any scenario.

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Hmm.
If it is a 3rd party role though, I would assume the other would CC because then that just gives us an obvious maf member.

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I see. Thanks for clearing that up

Except that makes no logical sense. No third party would have any interest in CC'ing.

 

[tae]

Third parties can side with whoever they want to depending on their role.

what about a nexus? xine have you ever play with a nexus before?

 

[Kirbystarship]

Color codeing reads.

PandaDarling

I like how she is trying to bring more Discussion and trying to help the town. I haven't played that many games with Panda so I don't see how she is trying to flip flop.

Tom

I use to be Sus of him and I'm no longer Sus of him I looked up his role and I believe it somewhat so I'm null on him. Their is still a small chance he could be the lyncher but I don't think he will push for a lynch of Alexi so he doesn't look bad. So I think we should keep him alive.

mother of all llamas

Really not sure she is always coasting through the game no matter what team she is playing on. If she is scum she isn't really helping them at all will be a easy lynch on them if she is a scum.

Ares

Going to put them as town because they have a Pr that could be helpful to town.

Nightmares

I really think she is avoiding the thread because she doesn't know what to say. So I'm putting her as null.

Jacob

I don't like how he is pushing for a Tardis lynch. Maybe he is doing that because he knows I'm still a Newbie and I'm a easy lynch. And how he doesn't want to push me so I don't really think I'm so scummy that Jacob would try and push me that hard.

Ashtot

I don't really like how he is jokeing around so much. It is nice jokeing around at the beginning of the game. And how he is agreeing with Tom. So if Ash flips as mafia I will start to think that Tom and Ash are on the same team.

Dolby

Not really sure the last game I played with him he was very quiet and just coasting through the game. So null on him.

aron/replacement

Not really sure because Aron didn't post that much so Null on him so I'm waiting for someone to replace him.

Tina

I only played with her when she was a townie. So I don't really know why some people are saying she could be scum.

Alexi

I think she is playing like a townie in this game. In the Donald Trump mafia she would be flip flopping a lot. So I think she is using her meta from tarot mafia.

xine

I like her cases and I agree with them so I'll put them as town.

Xerolin

She needs to post more and it is strange how she says she is going to help then she says she will put it off for the next day but doesn't do it.

Heyden

He has been very quiet in this game. And he hasn't said nothing that would make him sound like a scum or Pro-town.

inkling


It is really hard to tell she always acts scummy and hasn't been helping town. Maybe they could be a Jester trying to get them selves lynched.

Taesaeke

I'm likeing how he is helping town and he hasn't said anything scummy.

Cadbberry

I'm not really sure about her the only post that sounds scummy is this one.

I fear for lynching a PR but I need to vote so I will go back with Ares, my apologies

Corry

I think I'll believe Corry's claim as being a townie. The claim sounds reall.

Sorry this was late.

 

[PandaDarling]

What I find interesting is Tom is both a lyncher AND survivor? Does that always happen?
Why would his wincon be targeted to a blue role?
That's pretty maf sided to me. Obviously not saying you are maf sided, Tom, but damn. Why wincon = lynch a blue role. Messed up.

You claim townie but then you said you need to role claim? Didn't you already?
That confused me.

Also Cory, in response to your slight scum read on me - I'm not being defensive at all. I'm just trying to see why anyone who is sus of me, thinks so. b/c the only one to give a case on me so far is Tom. Which would mean anyone else is just hopping on some bandwagon, and that's how I'll find scum.

@Alexi This is a LIE you're taking his post out of context and trying to make something from it..... he claimed and then he said "I felt I needed to do so because.... blah blah blah" he isn't forgetting that he claimed or whatever your trying to say here

and as far as anyone else jumping on you is a bandwagoner and makes them sus ? why? I've been sus of you from D1 so does it make me scum if i vote for you after Tom?

**i see you addressed the above quote with this.....

So do lynchers usually get another role? Like with yours?
I'm still trying to understand fully 3rd party roles. Keep in mind, my first game 3rd party was basically another scum team so now I just see them as anti-town, but reading back on other games it's hard to understand fully what they could be doing.

I still do not fully 100% believe it, no. but there has been no CC, which leads me to almost having to.
Yeah that was my fault. I was just ISOing his posts. Going back and reading through the actual thread I see it now, and that I misread it.

but why did you go ISO his post without reading the thread in its entirety to completely understand whats going on? maybe you are just trying to pic a target and take him down so you ISO his post to see what you can twist as "scummy" ?

 

[Chrystina]

Alright well .
here's how I feel about Tom:
If he was part of the scum team, why would he safe claim a 3rd role. That's pretty unique, and makes 0 sense.

but then, why did he ask me to claim thinking I was 3rd party? In Tom's response to this, he states that it is not so unique to have two 3rd party roles, this could be true. & yes, with a unique role setup I definitely do believe it (think: Trump mafia game)
Yesterday I stated that this response was weak, but I think I was just really overly tired and not thinking openly.

Basically I have no reason to believe Tom is town-sided given his lyncher role, but now with that win-con being met, I'd like to see how he takes the rest of this game.

 

[PandaDarling]

@Tardis Good Job, im proud of you.

 

[Chrystina]

@Alexi This is a LIE you're taking his post out of context and trying to make something from it..... he claimed and then he said "I felt I needed to do so because.... blah blah blah" he isn't forgetting that he claimed or whatever your trying to say here

and as far as anyone else jumping on you is a bandwagoner and makes them sus ? why? I've been sus of you from D1 so does it make me scum if i vote for you after Tom?

**i see you addressed the above quote with this.....



but why did you go ISO his post without reading the thread in its entirety to completely understand whats going on? maybe you are just trying to pic a target and take him down so you ISO his post to see what you can twist as "scummy" ?

lol, I didn't even scum read Cory for that. I just said "this confuses me."

 

[Damniel]

There will be a change in phase end time. Tomorrow I'm going on a vacation until Sunday. So I will end phases at 10PM EST and reopen the thread for results at 11PM. For this Day, I will still close the day at 7PM, but will reopen the thread at 11PM since I won't be at my hotel until then. Thank you.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Basically I have no reason to believe Tom is town-sided given his lyncher role, but now with that win-con being met, I'd like to see how he takes the rest of this game.

My wincon was not met, otherwise I would be out of the game already. As a Lyncher, I have to have my target lynched. Entropy died via a night kill, hence my Survivor half coming into play now.

 

[tae]

My wincon was not met, otherwise I would be out of the game already. As a Lyncher, I have to have my target lynched. Entropy died via a night kill, hence my Survivor half coming into play now.

unless you're not actually an exe/lyncher/survivor.

 

[Kirbystarship]

How has I been a confused townie Tae? And I'm okay with Jacob tunneling me it won't work Jacob.