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ok well INK is just derailing us again and making my scum lean on her stronger at this point.

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@Ink who do you think is scum ? and don't post the replacements list. haha
 
Ashtot
"How do you react under pressure? I don't."

So this is actually my first game playing with Ashtot. I don't know his meta so that has little influence on me and most of us. Right off the bat that could be an advantage to him. Throughout the game he has been trying to tell us how he "normally" plays as town, I.e. "I don't consider myself a good player," which is a tactic that I have seen a lot and don't really like.




RQs
What time Zone are you in? I live in the far east of the magical land of beavers and maple syrup.
1. How many games have you played? I've played a lot.
2. How do you react under pressure? I don't.
3. What role do you want to be? Something that can set people on fire.
4. What will you be notable for? Winning.

1. Does this imply that you consider yourself good?
2. lol
3. That's oddly specific, but I'm sure its nothing that important
4. The tone of these RQs sound very confident. Idk where that confidence has gone or if you were just humbled by these past couple days, but the transition is just a little pathetic. I'll leave personal demeanor out of it tho but the change in confidence levels is unsettling.




I haven't been trolling at all
Ashtot struck me as a player who likes to call people out on being "contradictory" to their posts:
You just contradicted yourself.

3f4DiN8
yet almost his entire mass of posts have been contradictory to "I haven't been trolling at all."
For example:

Suddenly a hostile octopus appears, frantically waving it's tentacles and trying to communicate, I wonder what it's trying to say?

Excuse me, my horse doesn't appreciate the sass. :(


My horse doesn't appreciate you slandering his penis.

Well thanks, he appreciates your apology.

I'm honestly feeling so attacked right now. It's hard to do my best when everyone thinks I have a high horse. :(

I don't understand your playing style?? Are you trying to be funny? Because at some points you actually get like serious for a little bit. But then you go ahead and say "I genuinely think I am a bad player," no!! That's not something you say!! Instead of posting irrelevant spam, the only way to not be a bad player is to actually get serious and stay serious. Don't succumb yourself to the fact that you think you are bad. It looks like you are giving up and too stressed.
But that's just me




Well you know how I feel about gut feelings. ;)
I don't get it. Is this sarcasm, ironic, or genuine because I can't tell. Wasn't Entropy a gut feeling for you tho?




pocketing is when ur scum and u buddy up a townie so u can use that later in the game in ur favor

the second part is just my rage

That's a stupid strategy. Bussing is much more effective.
That sounds incredibly fake and I am not sure why you mentioned bussing at all. In fact this entire post has no substance but only to draw negative attention to you.
Do you have a concrete reason as to why you posted it or did you just do it for the lols + confuse and distract town from you POCKETING with your townie brother.





Confirmed scum, thanks fam.

Trundle is Town.

Sound pretty scummy tbh.

Wow this post was so meta.....

These were the (I am assuming) "sarcastic" comments with - again - no actual substance. Probably trying to raddle up some people's anger, which idk why he did. It wasn't a direct shot at anyone in particular so you could say he was just trying to heat up the general public. Scummy.
The "Trundle is Town" comment was actually really weird tho because it was early on in the game and he couldn't have known that unless he was maf. There weren't enough posts from trundle to match any meta and it sounds way too confident. Again I don't know if it was sarcastic tho.




... The reason I think [Jacob is] third party is it seems like he's been saying things to keep on everyone's good side, just just one alignment.

I'll use this spot as a response to this thing because I don't think I did.
So you think I am helpful, but I'm mafia because my thoughts aren't very original or telling; and I am cruising. Ok fair enough.
This read was kinda old so has Tom's third party claim effected this thought against me?





That's the joke.

Anyways, you should probably defend yourself because it's clear that you're Mafia.

It's 6:17PM for me, also simply saying that people who don't agree with you is scum is pretty scummy,

tbh.

Nice, I'm scum because you say I am. Solid logic.

Well, this was a great reaction test, thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Throwing the "I think you're scum, you're scummy" and hoping it sticks in people's heads was actually what you were doing tbh. You said it was obvious she was scum but yet you posting nothing really of any substance to back that up so idk why you said all this.
"I was just bs'ing"
Why ?? I'll talk about that in a few sentences but for now that's your excuse and it's a little sad, but I am sure you know that already.

It's scummy to not have reasons for voting people - especially strong players - besides "I'm a wizard and know you role!!!"
because you didn't

Silly people. It's okay though, someday you'll understand
WTF are you saying here. Are you trying to set up an "I told you so!" moment? You didn't elaborate but it seems like one of those "just trust me! I'm scum but have no reason to prove otherwise without guilting you!"




Well tbh I was just completely bs'ing everything I said earlier to see what she would do, hehe.

She was just bad Town in the end.

I definitely thought she was red, but I was wrong. I'm not amazing at reads like DOLBY WHO PROBABLY IS SCUM CONSIDERING TWO BLUES DIED.

At this point, Tom shouldn't be lynched because he is an asset to Town, plus he's been of the most benefit to Town this whole game, even though he's third party, which is pretty sad.

Well if you were MAKING IT UP, WHY should we believe anything you say. You haven't given any reason to trust you again or made any game changing posts in favor of town. Your credibility after this post is very low.





Tom is one of the only competent players here other than Trundle who was killed and Dolby who you guys still won't even consider for lynch because you're insane.

It's understandable that you guys are confused because you're newer to this than some of us, but you're disregarding our sage wisdim which will mean our loss.

I honestly have no idea. The only thing I can think of is because Tom and I are both not stupid and don't put up with crappy play (as hypocritical as it may be).

I don't have a power complex and I don't even think I'm good. I'm literally terrible at Mafia and I'm not hiding behind Tom. Idk what you expect. I can still point out People's flaws if I suck.
So do you have sage wisdom and are really good at this game?? Or do you suck??
Stop flopping holy god




I had about 4 or 5 more quotes from Ashtot added to these, but all of them were just so irrelevant and spammy that I had basically nothing to say about them.


TL;DR
The biggest problem Ashtot is having is flopping. Can be seen through
" I'm serious" to "I'm spammy."
and
" I've played a lot of mafia, listen to me" to "I suck at mafia, don't listen to me."

He alternated between the two when he needs to apologize for doing something stupid so he looks less scummy. It looks incredibly fake and makes me really suspicious of him.
 
i've got a headache, so here's this i guess. i've got more to work on but i need to read back about a few people so i'll do that in a few hours or something.

guess now's a fun time for this good stuff. i'm on a fence about things so a lot of people aren't filled in just yet.

null | town reads | town leans | sus | scum leans | scum reads



Aronthaer
- for obs reason.
Nightmares - can't tell with her, she might jsut be new, her scum team might just be telling her to play the noob card. who knows, not me.
Mother of all Llamas - her game play pisses me off more than anything in this world rn and i'm always null/sus of her. ALWAYS.
Taesaek
Alexi
- she's town in my book. following her meta. asking questions. she's playing like how kat played a bit, asking for reasonings to why people find her sus. it's not being "defensive" it's pro-town wanting to know why someone voted / said what they said. don't incriminate her for trying to get info to better her knowledge.
Xine - always wanna hope xine is town, but given like always they're here posting and making some progress towards a few people i'm town leaning them. i'm hesitant to town read them completely though, because they're not as aggressive as they usually are.
Tardis2016 - typical tardis. for now.
Ares - i don't know completely, he comes across as scummy with his confidence but i think he's just noob town.
Hayden - still working on this. ill update later.
Dolby - still working on this. ill update later. silent dolby scares me.
Cory - i want to town lean him, bc he's trying to make a difference but i'm not 100% sold given the scummy things he has said so far.
Cadbberry - also kinda on the fence bc yeah she's still pretty new but the constant amount of flip flopping she does unsettles me. even if it is bc shes a noob. also she doesn't contribute a lot of discussion but is quick to yell and point fingers at nightmares and xerolin for their inactivity / others for de-railing.
PandaDarling - wanted to town lean you until you started pressing on alexi like tom has. still not 100% on you. waiting for the aggressive panda to resurface full throttle.
Xerolin - what are you. where are you.
Jacob - you're scummy for reasons i can't say. and your fixation on tardis is weird. really weird.
Tina - you're good with words but your points have all been taken out of context and seem very, very messy. not like the tina i'd imagine.
Inkling - lol.
Ashtot - i can't tell if you're just someone who types scummy and think he's not or if you're actually scum. i still think you're the best lynch target at this point in time. but that may change, theres lots of time left.
Tom - i don't think you're what you say you are. but right now i can't prove it so lets see where you go from here.
 
shoutout to tae for using light salmon for null

the yellow made my headache worse, slamon is a pretty color too.

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whats the pink color mean ? ha null/scum lean ?

your first half was supposed to be a town lean but i ****ed up, can't fix it now. you're slightly sus in my book.
 
There is no reason to say I'm piggy backing. There's nothing in her reads to back this up. I was active day1, and why would I post reads when there is nothing going on? I'm not an aggressive player, I just want to see other reactions before I get reads. I become aggressive when I feel I'm being personal attacked. I have said this many times and I'll say it again, I WORK ALL DAY ON SATURDAYS, which means I am not around for the start of the day.

I will give you another chance to adequately explain yourself and I expect you to not try to appeal to me by using excuses like ?I?m tired? and ?I was working? because I literally do not find either of those relevant, sorry. You piggybacked Tom, and the reasoning you gave for your Entropy vote was weak- I quoted what you said was ?more than enough reason to lynch Entropy? and it said nothing besides stating that Tom was contradicting himself entirely. Which was the truth.

Nah, nothing wrong with what I said. Look, everybody is scum reading me and bandwagoning on me. I sincerely try to be helpful to town and think I have some interesting insights, but I come off as scummy. I actually haven't really got a chance to play a game I feel like, except for the nub one, bc I'm seen as scummy right off the bat.

What insights have you suggested?? You have NOT given a single scum read of your own devise. Besides Panda, where you called her wishy washy without evidence for why which is pretty hypocritical of you. And now, you decide that I?m scum for scum-reading you (your words, not mine) - which is hilarious because are those that are voting you scum as well? I have not even voted you, yet.


So what? Everybody else does this...? Not just me? I just like checking in to show I haven't completely disappeared, unlike some other players?

Who else has done that? There is a difference between inactivity and fillering, by the way.


I don't remember if this was mother's day or saturday or what, but hey, you got me there...I started off slow, what can I say? Was pretty busy...

As was I. And I still made time to contribute.

Bc she was freaking out and was arguing non-stop with Tom. It really came off as whining to me, but whatever. And I mentioned the vote thing when speaking to them directly. I said, why are you responding so harshly when there were only 2 votes on them at the time. Keep in mind there were many posts entropy made that were similar. They were both going around in circles for a while. I just didn't feel like quoting them all, and I also thought it was obvious. My mistake.

I'm skipping the rest of that bc it really just comes down to personal opinion and I don't feel like going into those waters. I'm not that important. and neither is that discussion. As far as Tom, contradicting himself, I saw that afterwards and point it out. I hadn't noticed it really till afterwards. But I did point it out and I don't feel like quoting it bc this post is too long and mess already.

Where EXACTLY did she freak out? Quote it. Are you even aware how hypocritical it is for you to scumread someone that you think was whining and freaking out when that seems like what you are doing????


Okay? I just don't get this. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, really. I am not used to this type of respect around here ;)

I did not complete my sentence there. I meant "Bussing D1 is BEYOND optimal Mafia play, not sure if you are just new or realized you couldn?t backtrack on your suspicion of Entropy so quickly."


Ah, yes, but everybody like wants to have your babies everytime you post a read so you're kinda like town leader now, to both entropy and panda's dismay i am sure.

dis?may
disˈmā
verb
cause (someone) to feel consternation and distress


You should look up words that you do not know before using them because that did not make any sense.

ya i got lazy. And no, it was a direct reply to him. It was something I thought worthy to point out to townies. Its stupid that 2 townies died, like somebody smart did that. Was it you?

LOL. THAT WAS BEFORE NIGHT HAPPENED. That was your THIRD post after Crys was lynched and you said something was stupid/fishy about that lynch. What was it then? NIGHT HAD NOT HAPPENED YET.

I still cannot fathom why are you denying reading Ares? posts or replying to him when you DIRECTLY quoted him. What in the ****? He almost got lynched. Did you not pay attention to anything that happened on Day 1?


A lot of players on here act scummy. It doesn't mean theyre scum.

Who here has acted scummy but is not scum? Are you referring to Entropy?


I didn't sheep. entropy seemed the most scummy to me...i donno what to tell you.

You tell me WHY you think she was scummy. Because, as I explained already, you said you voted her for saying that Tom was contradictory, which he was. Are you serious? How does that not make any sense?

Nah, basically asking others for help and input and just making observations. Like Im a noob, I'm also not very smart when it comes to certain things. I can be a lil gullible or tricked easily so I question myself.

I'm too tired to address this really. Like this read it too long and painful. But I'm not scum.

Not an OMGUS vote, an i am so obviously not scum so only scum would think i am vote

1st part: Except that you haven?t. You?ve bickered with Taesaek with no actual logical discussion going on there, you and Ashtot attempted to derail the thread with pointless discussion, you sus?d Panda for being wishy washy but what exactly are you being?
2nd: Ignoring your ATE.
3rd: That?s why you have 5 votes on you right now, right? So the scum team is 6 right, including me?

Your vote on me instead of on Ashtot (or anybody else you have called scummy), when you previously called him scum, is making me more and more confident that you are both scum. Given that Crys attempted to bus Ashtot, and Ashtot is not voting you, he is probably just a goon while you are a mafia PR. I am placing my vote on you.
 
null | town reads | town leans | sus | scum leans | scum reads

PandaDarling - before I slight town read her because of her aggressivnes, but she is right. That's her town meta.
Dolby - a silent Dolby is a scary Dolby. be wary. he's following his scum meta.
Mother of all Llamas
Alexi
Ashtot- very very scummy day 1 and beginning of day 2. but I like how he came back and apologized for the way he was acting and gave cases on. but, you aren't off the hook quite that easy for me.
Taesaek- as usual has his opinions/reads and is following his usual town meta.
Inkling- please lynch.
Jacob- you are tunneling on tardis, and while I did find tardis to be slightly scummy with the rqs thing I let it go very quickly b/c day 1 took a huge turn with the tom/entropy/crys thing and you've seemed to almost ignore that whole part.
Tom- yeah, tom is null. crazy, right. I want to see how he plays from here on out.
Nightmares- this is weird. nightmares town slipped day 1 but why is she ignoring the fact that we've been asking for her reads, jumps in to vote me and then doesnt say anything? this isn't a OMGUS. i just wish she would be more active and explain how she views everyone.
Ares
Hayden- their reads seem very off to me. i did town read him but he was very contradicting when posting his reads after.. i'd like him to explain further on those contradictions before i town read him again (or even sus)
Aronthaer
Ness Tina- did anyone else notice her reads were almost entirely sus reads? refer back to when tom and i were going at it. scum reading almost half the playerlist is never a good sign.
Cory
Xine
Tardis2016
Xerolin
Cadb
berry


if anyone would like me to elaborate on someone that I didn't, let me know.

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scary dolby. lmfao, i meant to say dangerous. same difference.
 
xine, what word do you think i was trying to use. youre very funny i think. you made fun of me for using a word correctly. gg.

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also you contradicted yourself. you said i haven't scum read anybody but then you went ahead and admitted i scum read ashtot. interesting. i also pointed out how panda's play style change and was leaning towards scum. i even made a list of reasons to which nobody responded to since it probably made no sense.

aw lets see, who else has posted filler? nightmares, tardis, xerolin, ashtot, etc etc basically everybody? um...

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im just kidding. every time i make a serious post nobody responds.
 
xine, what word do you think i was trying to use. youre very funny i think. you made fun of me for using a word correctly. gg.

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also you contradicted yourself. you said i haven't scum read anybody but then you went ahead and admitted i scum read ashtot. interesting. i also pointed out how panda's play style change and was leaning towards scum. i even made a list of reasons to which nobody responded to since it probably made no sense.

aw lets see, who else has posted filler? nightmares, tardis, xerolin, ashtot, etc etc basically everybody? um...

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im just kidding. every time i make a serious post nobody responds.

@Ink cause this is a joke, please explain how my game style has changed from where to when and how and why. thanks.
 
Holy ****. After ISOing inkling's posts WOW.

I donno PandaDarling seems to be really wishy washy this game. And it seems like maf are always the ones use irl excuses for their scummy behavior...
Going by your own logic inkling you basically just scum read yourself here:
There is no reason to say I'm piggy backing. There's nothing in her reads to back this up. I was active day1, and why would I post reads when there is nothing going on? I'm not an aggressive player, I just want to see other reactions before I get reads. I become aggressive when I feel I'm being personal attacked. I have said this many times and I'll say it again, I WORK ALL DAY ON SATURDAYS, which means I am not around for the start of the day.

I don't remember if this was mother's day or saturday or what, but hey, you got me there...I started off slow, what can I say? Was pretty busy...


Also, you said you posted your reads but they were overlooked because they suck?
I don't see them. I see you call Panda for being sus and Ashtot for being scummy, and then there's a whole bunch of nothing that contributes nothing to the game. That's bout it.

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Sorry. not because they sucked. they "made no sense."
 
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