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WHAT !!!!!! He voted after deadline ? NO !!! I demand he get modkilled !!!

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modkill Dolby for not voting 2 days in a row, that is not fair to the rest of us!

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This is bs if you were here to close the thread when it was supposed to he would get modkilled, bull s*** !!

Technically there was confusion on when voting ended because there was an extension due to lag on the site, so host is not really at fault.
 
Heyden what do you think about Dolby not voting two days in a row and not getting modkilled ?

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Technically there was confusion on when voting ended because there was an extension due to lag on the site, so host is not really at fault.

No I don't care this is bull s*** Daniel said in the voting grew that it didn't count, he didn't vote the first day so he technically didn't vote for 2 day phases and needs to be modkilled.

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Thread *^

It's not fair to everyone else in the game.
 
Well Daniel said it didn't count, so he didn't vote 2 days in a row. Technically he SHOULD be modkilled but it's up to Daniel I guess
 
Anyhow, I feel like there is a Serial Killer because the game is pretty large and needed ATLEAST 21 players so I'm sure it meant something. The death toll is so low though so I'm starting to doubt things, or is it just me

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Okay wait, would it be a good idea if the vig outed if they HAVE shot? Seeing as they'd be just a townie but provide info
 
Anyhow, I feel like there is a Serial Killer because the game is pretty large and needed ATLEAST 21 players so I'm sure it meant something. The death toll is so low though so I'm starting to doubt things, or is it just me

Why are you playing dumb about the strong likelihood of a roleblocker or bus driver?
 
Why are you playing dumb about the strong likelihood of a roleblocker or bus driver?
I wasn't playing dumb?? I'm just trying to state some possibilities for why the death toll is so low. A roleblocker is pretty likely but I'm still feeling unsure about a bus driver. They've only been in 3 games on TBT I think, and each time they were mafia, 3rd party and town. So if there was one in fact it would be hard to trace down their allignment

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Would third party bus driver count as hostile?
 
Heyden what do you think about Dolby not voting two days in a row and not getting modkilled ?

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No I don't care this is bull s*** Daniel said in the voting grew that it didn't count, he didn't vote the first day so he technically didn't vote for 2 day phases and needs to be modkilled.

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Thread *^

It's not fair to everyone else in the game.

Just. Read. The. Day. Two. Post. For. Why

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I wasn't playing dumb?? I'm just trying to state some possibilities for why the death toll is so low. A roleblocker is pretty likely but I'm still feeling unsure about a bus driver. They've only been in 3 games on TBT I think, and each time they were mafia, 3rd party and town. So if there was one in fact it would be hard to trace down their allignment

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Would third party bus driver count as hostile?

If there was a third party bus driver, it would depend on what it was a modifier of. It could be a bus driver survivor for example(even though this example makes no sense) or it could be like what Daniel was in oath's game (bus driver, serial killer, suicide bomber)
 
I don't care about your excuses

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I would love to hear why you think that you would die over the several blue roles that have soft or hard claimed.

I never said I thought I would die; I said in case.

Tina- I can't decide about her, being inactive and not helping town to much, just popping in to give a few answers and leaving again, don't trust them

Huh? I'm not inactive. I may not be around during the peak hours but I'm here and posting everyday. If you need me and want a fast response, I'm most active in the morning (if I'm awake, I sometimes sleep til noon) until around mid-afternoon GMT. By the time the rest of you are home from school/work I'm either socialising (and can only make shorter/quick responses if anything) or asleep. I admitted in my post last night that I never got around to contributing the more in-depth post I wanted to towards the latter half of D2. Whenever I stopped doing housework to look at the thread I felt like I had to be defending myself instead of working on a case.

I'm sticking with my gut and voting Ashtot. He was online less than an hour and a half ago and he's still either just lurking or he's avoiding the thread altogether.
 
I never said I thought I would die; I said in case.



Huh? I'm not inactive. I may not be around during the peak hours but I'm here and posting everyday. If you need me and want a fast response, I'm most active in the morning (if I'm awake, I sometimes sleep til noon) until around mid-afternoon GMT. By the time the rest of you are home from school/work I'm either socialising (and can only make shorter/quick responses if anything) or asleep. I admitted in my post last night that I never got around to contributing the more in-depth post I wanted to towards the latter half of D2. Whenever I stopped doing housework to look at the thread I felt like I had to be defending myself instead of working on a case.

I'm sticking with my gut and voting Ashtot. He was online less than an hour and a half ago and he's still either just lurking or he's avoiding the thread altogether.

I'm with Tina, you guys have to acknowledge that not everyone lives in American timezones so we can't always be online when you guys are...
 
I really want to lynch Dolby if he is scum and we keep him alive he might hit more of are blue roles he likes to blue snipe a lot.
It doesn't matter, what little blue roles we have left you guys have practically outed. No point in keeping quiet at this point and honestly I'm starting to suspect towns being jerked around.

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It is actually sad the way that most of you are playing. I am not even exaggerating when I say that the majority of you look scum as ****, and the rest of you are either standing by acting helpless or echoing the thoughts of other?s that have spoken out.

D1 was a very telling day, and I find it strange how barely any of you have reflected back on it. Town was an absolute ****storm, and mafia definitely had an easy day hiding in it. If it were not for Entropy?s hammer on Crys, we would be in a really bad position now. And the fact that you several of you STILL tried to push on Entropy is just? poor play. Regardless of your alignment- even if you are scum, that is just weak.

NOTE: This is not in order. After I finish with my second post I will list my top three lynch choices. Also some of this is a bit rushed because I don't have much time and also because I literally hate using this laptop. I did not proofread this enough by the way, I already know. That's what happens when you use "Notes" and not a Word doc.

Very likely scum:

Tom

Let me just say that I am more than hesitant to buy his claim. But I will come back to him, because he should not be our lynch for today. I want to look further into his role claim?s unofficial title and see if it aligns with a lyncher role. Overall, I have a gut feeling that he is lying about his claim but I do not want to waste my time analyzing him at this time ONLY because of the storyline of Xenoblade.

Inkling

I am being heavily reminded of Trump mafia where they coast until they are provoked and spend the majority of their time piggybacking off of others reads. They do not have that many posts, so I am going to start from the beginning.



The answer to number five is extremely off-putting. Was Trump mafia not your first game as scum? Did you not agree that you were being scummy? Of course it was unintentional, but this statement is so counter-intuitive to say if you are town. It?s like you are already defending yourself in a RQS because you already know that you are bound to say something scummy.

Then we have the worst and most obvious coast I?ve ever seen through the majority of Day 1:





Until finally:



First reads of the game, and they posted this 4 hours before the lynch deadline. Inspiring, really. This is of course after Tom posted several times pushing for Entropy.



How can any statement Entropy said be a desperate last plea when there were only three votes on them? Entropy posted actual cases and actual reads - where Tom did not. Yet you sheeped him anyway. It seemed like absolutely EVERYONE overlooked Entropy?s reads. How can you say that everyone was willing to listen? And you are going to need to quote what EXACTLY it was that Entropy said that made you suspicious of them.

Then here is Entropy?s quote that goes in the brackets which Inkling was referring to:


It is entirely valid that Tom was contradicting himself several times. What exactly was filler or a lame excuse in this post? What reactions EXACTLY were scummy? Both the first quote and second that Inkling posted are basically looking at Entropy through Tom?s tunneled perspective and ignoring other factors of what was going on. In what universe would town ever sheep this hard?

If Entropy was acting ?so sus? like you said, it should be quite easy for you to explain yourself. I am quite excited to hear it, really.

The second to last line- are you ****ing joking? So you openly admit to not even reading and not having an entirely clear picture of what?s going on and then voting Entropy? Remind me to file that sentence in my ?Things Town Would Never Do? folder.

And then, get ready folks, we have the greatest reaction to a D1 scum lynch of Mafia all time.



Bussing D1 is BEYOND optimal Mafia play, not sure if you are just new or realized



Ah, yes, because I was the only one not to vote.



The latter is a reply to Ares, but how on Earth is Ares voting Crys suspicious now? If anything it clears him, what is stupid about it? Of course, those investigation results were never to be revealed. Also, Inkling has mentioned Cory more than absolutely anyone else in the game (I am leaving some quotes out) and I really find their interactions awkward and forced. Inkling, please give your opinion on Cory.



What is this even saying



Are you?blind? Did you not see how Tom was being scummy? I mean, considering he contradicted himself every other post, how can you miss that?



Why would it matter? You sheeped a lynch on a PR, even if by some miracle you are town - Do you GENUINELY believe that mafia is actually gonna target you?



First line: ?Yeah you?re right, we shouldn?t lynch Tom. Hey who are you sus of so I know who to start suspecting too? Sry for not reading like anything haha this thread moves fast!" (Uh, yeah, except that it doesn?t)

Second line: ?I mean, Tom is an easy lynch guys!! Or should I push someone else? I don?t think so because then I?d actually have to pretend to scum hunt for myself!?

CONCLUSION: I cannot believe I missed how scummy you?ve been since gamestart. Not once has Inkling provided their own reasoning, or made a read or statement about someone that someone else had not already said. Inkling sheeped Tom in the final hours of Day so that they wouldn?t be examined on it too much and continue to try to sheep anything anyone says.

Jacob



Third line: Why would you be worried about looking or feeling guilty if you shot town, if you are town?



While I agree with the first part, the second part completely rubs me the wrong way. Lynching an inactive D1 is almost always a bad idea but why are you withholding your reads like that? If you have a read on someone then you have to actually PUSH them, otherwise you aren?t going to get any information out of your suspicion on them.



This is your first actual suspicion of Ares, so why are you all of a sudden okay with a lynch on Ares? I understand his answer to the RQS was strange- but are you ****ing serious is that really a reason to lynch someone about? And then we have the fence-sitting about Entropy. You don?t give any opinion, either for or against it, that way if you switch your vote you won?t look suspicious because you can justify it by saying ?will keep my mislynch options open!!"



I am not really suspicious of what you are saying here I just simply want to state that confidence in your reads is vital, even if you are wrong. I am reminded of your play style in Tarot mafia when you were scum, because I remember clearly telling you this when you tried to start a case on Toads but then backed off by saying ?Oh I don?t know about this but here?s my opinions?.



You should know that no lynch is NOT an option on Day 1, I remember you saying something along these lines in Tarot as well.

I feel like this post led to the ****storm franticness that was Day 1. I mean, looking at the voting thread is literally comical. There needs to be some type of order, Jacob, you should know this. Town should narrow down the lynch choices between a couple different people and then go from there. Otherwise you are splitting towns votes onto several different people and potentially letting mafia hammer their pick. Entropy could have easily been hammered had Crys not unvoted.

And what exactly are you doing, if you?re not hiding behind the Ares bandwagon and not even pushing for your person that you said you originally suspected the most??? That last line is BEYOND contradicting, because you would not even give an opinion about who you would shoot and you are not even pushing for someone that you believe is scum.



This is so forced that it hurts



I swear to god it is more often scum than town that uses the ?Either X or Y is scum. If one is town the other is scum, so it depends on which flips what.? It?s basically intelligent version of fillering, because you are not actually supporting what you are saying besides the fact that you think two people are suspicious without having to actually give reasoning or cases why you think this is true.

Also, there was absolutely NO reason to townread Tom at that point. I have no idea where you came to this conclusion, and if it?s simply because he doesn?t match what you consider his scum meta without taking anything else he previously said in the thread into account then you are basically admitting to cherry picking.



But Tom is not town.

It is fine that you think Tardis is scum, but if you genuinely believe that then why are you not pushing them? Or making a case on them for D2?s lynch? Or if you feel like there is not enough to go on, why aren?t you asking them questions so that you can use it in a case? Because from my point of view, you don?t want to post case now because you do not want to appear scummy in case it is not a solid case or in case you are wrong. But in your words, ?If you are town you have nothing to hide?.

Also thank you.

CONCLUSION: I do not understand the motivation behind a lot of Jacob?s posts and I also am just not comfortable with his general behavior: I do not get why he?s acting in ways that he knows are not in town?s favor. Holding off posting cases during D1, mentioning that voting ?No Lynch? is an option,




Ashtot
I am trying to figure out if you are actually horribly obvious scum or if you are just horrible in general.

I do not want to repeat what Entropy had already said about you so I will be brief but,



This awkward pocket was what your first giant red flag.



Correct me if there is some invisible post that is hidden to everyone where Entropy made a contradiction, but I thought you stated previously that you weren?t trolling this game

Also, learn how to post direct image links, scrub.



10/10 Damn much contribute.



I hope you were referring to if Entropy asking if you were serious was a joke, because yeah I agree, you acting like you?re being serious is a joke.

Entropy defended themselves all day.



Typical straw man attack of an argument. Entropy made a case on you before you ever even posted mentioning anything about them.



Continues to straw-man.
This is the most AMAZING line I have ever seen. Like it is truly incredible how ****ty it is, regardless of your alignment you are playing beyond bad.



The first line: the irony is tangible and downright PAINFUL.



"Well tbh I just wanted to side with Tom so if Entropy did not die I could set up a D2 lynch for her, hehe.?

How can someone lynch scum D1 and you can draw the conclusion that they are bad town is absolutely dumbfounding. Like it is painfully obvious how blatantly scum you are acting, it reminds me of Heyden last game. Could scum ACTUALLY be so bad? I mean, either way your play is poor, but what I mean is, you are scummy to the point where I cannot fathom the idea that scum would play so terribly.





Yes thank you Ashtot, bless your soul. You need to tell people to add to the discussion as much as you are. You need to tell people how much that they are not doing, and hopefully they follow your example of you doing so much towards scum hunting. Praise.



At least you admitted to it. I genuinely cannot wrap my head around why someone would act like these even if they ARE scum, so I looked into one of his games when he was town- ?Game of Thrones? Mafia.

Here is a compilation of his posts that seem all too familiar.

Almost entirely trolly/****posts



Then he tries for half a second.





Sort of.



This is half and half- but what I did take note of is the bit about Dolby.

CONCLUSION: Yeah you?re bad no matter what alignment you are and the only thing holding me back is that your terrible play seems to be consistent from other games.


Mother of all Llamas

Why?do you even play?. I have only been here for a couple games and you already frustrate the hell out of me.



Will it? How if you never play?



Sheeping the bandwagon using awkwardly phrased excuses. How was it forced if it was over confident? If something is over-confident then that means they had too much confidence in what they were saying but how would that be forced at the same time? It?s entirely contradicting.

Please modkill yourself and do us all a favor.

Xerolin

Almost entirely filler and useless statements.







This one is the one where you can I guess make a reach and say that this is something of value. ?I guess I?ll read? I mean. That is entirely the point of the game so I mean, good for you. Avoids the question of choosing to shoot someone.



File under: ?Useless filler"



I understand that you are new, but you still need to try. Even just asking questions shows that you are putting in effort in and attempting to play the game. It is not like it is expected of you to know exactly what to post, but when you do not post anything of value yet still continue to post the only explanation I can draw is that you know that you need to say something so people do not suspect you but



Okayyyyyy. At least you admit to jumping on the bandwagon. But I do not understand how this is the conclusion that you draw. Note the first sentence.



So in a nutshell, you voted him because you did not want to be pressured for voting someone else based on your reasoning. Do you not realize how detrimental this behavior is if you are town?? That?s not even the worst part of this post?.

HOW DID YOU GUYS MISS THIS? Xerolin?s previous post was saying ?hey guys finally just finished reading through, placing my sheep vote on Ares? and then they follow up by saying ?I voted Ares but that was before I read through, I was going to place my vote for Tardis.?

Why are you lying about reading if you?re town? I mean, it is fine if you have not read the thread. But why are you voting if you have not read??









More filler, because nobody was even talking about them if I?m not mistaken.



Is this a joke

CONCLUSION: I understand that you are new, but I genuinely do not get why you lied about not reading the thread and why you feel the need to filler throughout the thread. It is fine to not know what you are saying but if you are town you need to either give your opinions on people and say why, even if you are not confident in your read.


Taesaek
Cory

*I will come back to these two. Reading the thread and then ISO?ing everyones posts took a LOT longer than I expected it too, but I will post my reads on them both along with an analysis on my null reads as well later tonight.



Null:

I will expand on these reads. But not right now, I am tired of typing on my ****ty laptop.

Dolby
Hayden
Tina
Alexi


Leaning town:


Ask if you would like me to expand on these reads.

PandaDarling
Cadbberry
Tardis
Ares
Nightmares

Hey Xine could we get updated reads? :) It seems your opinion has changed on a few users and well with a few dead now, some updated reads from you would be really helpful.
 

Juju is sharlas little brother.
Jeez I guess some people don't read the death post role pms.

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Should I say what the last 2 most likely blue names are with their roles?
Or not?

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Since Sharla was able to protect 2 nights in a row, can a roleblocker block 2 nights in a row?

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@ares I would love to hear your reads.
I don't know what time zone you are in so anytime in around the next 24 hours would be good.
 
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