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Toads: Why pick out Jacob from this and defend mog, what made you believe her over Jacob. Lots of people do the "I think one of these three people could be scum" thing. Mog comes off genuine no matter what, I want to ISO her and Jacob next from last night, but I just thought it was weird you picked mog's side for a seemingly bias reason.
I was gonna say that mog's post are purely genuine (shrugs emoji). I mean it's just weird opinion I just only quote Trundle's post regarding Punchy's playstyle which made me laugh, I personally don't think mog would just go on and force herself to call me out rude for laughing at trundle's joke right? She isn't the type for me to pretend how she feels right? Unless you have something in mind well I haven't see her playing as scum
@Bianca Amateur players are sometimes hard to read like Punchy, us players think your playstyle is similar to past games if you are truly town you should try at least not to give up and defend yourself if the kingmaker decided to lynch you and you flip town obviously that the king or all of us would regret it. People have different opinions about your playstle dont take it really lightly its just a game for now they seem to give a strong evidence about you even tho your post is around 2017 pretty much a huge gap. If i'm going to read you I'm really iffy about it you are a mix of town/scummy vibes right there I'm going to rate you, well obviously unsure same goes with punchy.
Both of you guys are really unsure they give you strong evidence about your playstyle but that doesn't mean I will automatically scumlean you guys. Most especially for punchy cuz im kind of confused with him most especially people told me that he improved the game Im going to compliment on you right there
I could see Mog/Punchy team up but I'm not saying theyre scum.
Mog/trundle as team is really awkward especially Trundle/Jacob.
@tae/punchy if you guys have the ability to execute someone for a day who would it be and why?
I'm still torn with Jacob and Ness and already stated my opinions about them I'm still weirded out by Jacob's post I'm going to cast my vote on him but ill be there on EoD and will try my best I just woke up feeling chest pain I was gonna go back to sleep but for some reason my stupid chest is killing me.
next I'm going to read up on Jacob, Ness, Evan, Heyden, and Dolby bc I don't remember much of them because of my Bianca deathtunnel
Townreads: Mog- Mog is shy and uncomfortable, and kind of rambly as scum, trying to avoid the topic. Her content is not memorable as scum. A comparison to the last point specifically is Vanessa and Dedenne as scum. They aren't the same person, but if you don't know what I'm talking about, then that comparison is accurate. Vanessa- Our mindmelding on things is honestly pretty good. Her consideration of the town's opinion on the lynch candiate is definitely towny. Her tone is different from last game, where she was scum. This is defnitely a lean but nevertheless towny Toads- I have really liked his few posts that he's made, and I believe that they come from a town mindset. I believe Toads is town atm, but that is subject to change. Chele- According to her scum meta, she would make long wallposts over things not really relating to the topic just to make content, which she hasn't done. This is a very weak read, but still valid.
Catching up, I really don't like how split the vote is. Mafia is definitely riding one of them, but idk which one it is. I would guess Jacob's just because of all the late traction it's getting.
Catching up, I really don't like how split the vote is. Mafia is definitely riding one of them, but idk which one it is. I would guess Jacob's just because of all the late traction it's getting.
So myself, Dolby, and unravel voted Jacob, and you think mafia is riding it? Dolby actually unvoted. It's my train so the only person potentially riding it is unravel. There isn't any traction.
- - - Post Merge - - -
- punchy is probably going to get lynched, and will probably flip town
- i am going to laugh in your faces
- jacob will still be scum
Can we please lynch Bianca? I have at least tried to make content and defend myself, while she has just used AtE to escape the thread and not give any effort.
I will eat my shoes if Bianca isn?t mafia. Her play style has changed A LOT from her last game, not even to mention Caxnival if this is town bianca, major props to her on improving her playstyle and encourage her to keep playing like this. I respect Bianca as a player, and I am just using a strategy to get an opinion on her.
How are you using a strategy if you?re using meta? I swear I proved that it?s inaccurate meta before.
It was more than a year ago and you can?t solely read Bianca off of that, which is why I?m not scumleaning her.
Do you have any other evidence other than meta that you could say, Punchy?
What does tunnelling Antonio last game have to do with the points that Heyden brought up? It?s a tone issue.
Also maybe take a break from meta (now shifted onto Vanessa) before I explode? Don?t take that seriously btw, but anything other than meta you?d wanna share?
Punchy, in all honesty, the only reason I?m scumleaning you is because of your overused meta reading. I find that too unreasonable and it doesn?t provide you some good reads. I?m honestly letting the Jacob reading thing slip.
Generic Mafia meta for you is still valid. That is your most recent scum game where you have lived for a while. Caxnival is the same thing, but for Bianca.
Can we please lynch Bianca? I have at least tried to make content and defend myself, while she has just used AtE to escape the thread and not give any effort.
Vanessa, if it helps you make your vote now. I just feel like eventhough you do all these voting thing. When it comes down to it, its always Bianca and let me explain to you why i feel that way.
When I expressed my annoyance, it was because you said it was between me and Trundle. then you made a post saying you made Trundle town points so yeah its either me or Trundle so of course it;s me!
Now I see again, that you want Punchy and Bianca lynched. Eventhough you voted for Punchy for maf, I still have a feeling that you are still going to vote me and Punchy is just a turn around.
And dolby and toadsworthy, why am I not surprised they are scumming me. They always have scummed me and toads don't even lie and say that you townread me saying in the same post I am frustrated as town and then in the same token, I am frustrated as scum. decide ...am i frustrated as scum or town.
As for Dolby, your scumlean post is based on my early posts and that's it . yeah.
As for the others who defended me, thank you and i appreciate it. You really are not going after some kind of meta or some weird tone or something like that.
You guys scumread people who participate sure. But let me see, ness came in hostile , then was gone and now he is townlean. can you explain that Dolby?
You are talking about Antonio and my null on him. Of course , it is null its not even disguised. I even made two numbered points to show the contrast. so yes it is null but dont say its disguised because i even numbered them to show the contrast.
To be entirely honest, I'm somewhat uncomfortable with starting a new wagon at this moment so I'm just gonna look into the three main in detail
Punchy
I am seriously considering switching my vote to Punchy. Fortunetely I have come to see two seperate possible pairings as distinctly plausible that I am willing to follow and Trundle following only after I voted Jacob gives me vaguely bad vibes. Probably why I dislike him the most is because of his early game play. It reminds me strongly of his early game is similar to how he played in Fuchsia mafia, where he blatantly tried to stop me from pushing my voting method and pushed forward logicless reads
Starts off with a stunner of a case of Antonio, I personally think that he's either struggling to make something when he promised to, or just decided that he didn't want to seriously push the case
He quotes Antonio's RQS and says that avoiding making opinions and posting fluff. This feels particularly bandwagony, but none of this behavior is shown in Antonio's RQS, which I considered normal besides not knowing that I was in the game. Punchy last game was able to provide some actual reasoning that connected to Antonio's posts last game. Here he's just throwing out a name and can't back it up.
I'll give that Mog is making reads, but I seriously can't describe her as memorable outside the context of Trundle. Here's the thing, Punchy is struggling to post even rudimentary logic behind the content of his reads, and this mirrors what he did in Fuchsia mafia except now I realize that I cant quote Punchy in that game easily
This betrays a lack of reading, and the similarities to Fuchsia that I'll touch on later. Bianca's post was mostly fluff, but what he's basing this off of is just so ugh. A barely remembered game from 2018. The only good thing that I can say for it is that he's the first person to actually sus her, but that's not something I'll put much stock in
@Temptations, can you unlock Fuchsia mafia please?
How tf is this is mindmeld. Vanessa is proposing that Ness/Trundle are paired and you don't even agree with it, you're saying JUST one is scum. I personally consider this to be buddying as you don't even harbor the same read as her. The only way it can be considered such is the Bianca read, but all of these reads are mainstream at this point.
I'm done. I'm honestly tired of mafia and being constantly attacked for my "bad play" or "being punchy"
It's literally occuring in every game, I'm being personally attacked for my style of play because it's not wallpost after wallpost. I don't want to play a game where I'm being attacked for my play every single game. I've tried to supress my emotions about this but I just can't at this point.
I will eat my shoes if Bianca isn?t mafia. Her play style has changed A LOT from her last game, not even to mention Caxnival if this is town bianca, major props to her on improving her playstyle and encourage her to keep playing like this. I respect Bianca as a player, and I am just using a strategy to get an opinion on her.
Maybe look back into her then because one of you is dying today and the only thing that's keeping me from wanting BOTH of you dead is how you're treating her
next I'm going to read up on Jacob, Ness, Evan, Heyden, and Dolby bc I don't remember much of them because of my Bianca deathtunnel
Townreads: Mog- Mog is shy and uncomfortable, and kind of rambly as scum, trying to avoid the topic. Her content is not memorable as scum. A comparison to the last point specifically is Vanessa and Dedenne as scum. They aren't the same person, but if you don't know what I'm talking about, then that comparison is accurate. Vanessa- Our mindmelding on things is honestly pretty good. Her consideration of the town's opinion on the lynch candiate is definitely towny. Her tone is different from last game, where she was scum. This is defnitely a lean but nevertheless towny Toads- I have really liked his few posts that he's made, and I believe that they come from a town mindset. I believe Toads is town atm, but that is subject to change. Chele- According to her scum meta, she would make long wallposts over things not really relating to the topic just to make content, which she hasn't done. This is a very weak read, but still valid.
Tbh I have mixed feelings about this because I feel a lot of this just isn't solidly backed. Like, all the reads
Punchy in Fuchsia said:
Dolby you pulled all of that from two posts
While yes, the activity (or lack thereof) is suprising, I don't think toads should be lynched for it.
I'm not voting anyone until Toads gives his reaction. @Bianca, Vanessa, Dedenne, What do you think of Dolby and myself.
I think Dolby is scummy for going after Toads for very very little evidence, suddenly dropping Dad after I posted his defense of him and him not saying anything about it.
I took only Day one quotes from that game, and that's the problem that Punchy has as scum, he can't actually articulate fake reasons he has to be sus of someone. The best he can give is instant reactions and "I'm wary of Dolby for trying to lead". Here, I really feel like we're seeing the same thing, even in his townlean on Mog I'm seeing that. Yeah, this isn't nearly all his posting from that game or day, I left out posts in which he didn't actively read someone, was solely defensive to myself or Dad, or was just trying to kill my vote plan. But I feel that the whole ISO showed such behavior
In contrast we have Switch mafia where he is considerably more open
dumbplaying fearkill, something about "I love lying" doesn't sound like something a town Antonio would say, esentially copying my response for 6, and it seems like he threw out a random name (mine) for 7
hi going through this now and skimming
@Vanessa
His RQS seemed the same to me as all his other RQS, and he has dumbtold before as town (Call The Ships To Port I think there was a giant debate on it). Then again I forgot that he's only been mafia recently so "his RQS seem like all his other RQS" could possibly mean something. Will look in to it later
I think Antonio might be trying to fakeclear himself and that might be why he dumbplayed fearkill. Also Antonio/Vanessa are highly probable, and Damniel/Antonio are pretty compatible as of this post
- - - Post Merge - - -
Antonio lowkey just posting just to post, no content coming out of him there
This specific post doesn't really illustrate my point, but I wanted to include that it was an example of Punchy finding an actual reason to sus Antonio (logical disconnect)
Also ftr I don?t like that Dolby thinks I?m town, I think that might be trying to get my trust. Also I?m voting for Antonio as soon as night ends, which should have been 8 hours ago
- - - Post Merge - - -
Antonio, if mafia, is probably teamed with either unravel, damniel, or Vanessa. I don?t really like Vanessa?s tone this game, it sounds different than usual.
Eventually, he does go into something like this, just reinforcing bygone conclusions, but what's absent in this case from town Punchy is hunting something to state reasoning and make bygone conclusions on
I want to keep Farobi alive for one particular meta reason, at least for N1. I want to see his reaction to the lynch, and if it seems artificial then I will be susp of him. Farobi does make a good point over unravel and Vanessa, however. I'm going to make an ISO over him, in the unlikely case that he might be town
Alright before I begin this I don't believe Farobi's inactivity should be a point for sussing him, as he mentioned that he had finals in his /in post.
I found his laid-back attitude townish in this post and that's why I initially gut townleaned him. Also something to point out is that he followed #5 very much, possible town points. I do think that this post is a town post, giving an attitude similar to mine up to this post.
interesting thing to note is that he did the same thing that antonio did to me but shorter, he gave a big reason to susp antonio but still gave him a null. He also avoids giving opinions with that last sentence. lowkey scummy vibes from the top part.
The bottom part is asking for people to give him the questions regarding his alignment, showing that he isn't scared to sort through it, and I give him town points for that. this also reminds me of how he acted inquiring me in RHOM in pms. Iirc he was Jailor that game, which makes me think that he is town this game as of this post.
as of the first sentence I see him tring evan which I actually read as a town mindset because he's not just bandwagoning onto evan, which is probably the only chance he has at surviving for this phase, and bwing onto him is something I would see as scummy. Townpoints. He is avoiding giving an opinion on Dolby and Dad, which is kind of scummy. I personally don't like his inconclusive read on damniel but I'm assuming it's a scumlean from him because he calls out a scummy thing from damniel. This means that Farobi literally called out the most skilled three players as possible scum, and I don't think Farobi would do that as scum.
Next up, he gives the reason for townleaning evan. I think that scum!farobi would blend in with the crowd if he was scum trying to gain towncred. I do think that his reasoning is valid on him, as I think Farobi has the same attitude and a similar tone to mine and I?m townreading Farobi.
literally everyone ignored his argument in the first paragraph an by this point unravel is tunneling him and the post after this is unravel ignoring the argument. next, farobi doesn't do anything or cite any evidence for his "own detection", scummeh.
unravel literally voted farobi because of dolby and Dad sussing him, susp, unravel didn't even explain after.
First seems like AtE, but with the context he is starting to fold under the pressure of literal wallpost after wallpost
his backpedaling and call for empathy in that last line give off scummy vibes
I've literally been asking "but what if antonio is scum" for the whole game, you can see the similarities between me and farobi, and now Farobi is universally scumread, but I'm universally townread.
tbh now that I'm looking at this I might need to reconsider Dolby. Farobi has a town mindset, because it is so similar to mine this game.
suggesting against using a strategy that works a lot of the time is susp because it works most of the time, scummy. citing examples of what he would do if he were mafia in the early game scenario makes me want to give him slight town cred, I don't see him doing that as scum, BUT he is using the excuse that he didn't post during early game to give him towncred, but he originally said that he wasn't posting during that time due to inactivity. Suspicious. I do agree with his point on unravel, and if you've noticed, I agree with many of his points, showing we have a similar mindset, and I'm universally townread, so that is telling.
Overall, I townlean Farobi. He has said some scummy things, but his mindset having a very similar thought process to mine, and the towny things that he has done overarches his scummyness
Eventually, he does go into something like a state of scum, where he's just stating opinions with no backing, just reinforcing bygone conclusions, but what's absent in this case from town Punchy is hunting something to state reasoning and make bygone conclusions on
Onto Bianca now and may end up switching to her.
Btw, meta was sourced before a good half of the this-game analysis
Generic Mafia meta for you is still valid. That is your most recent scum game where you have lived for a while. Caxnival is the same thing, but for Bianca.
But still Bianca’s Caxnival reasoning is just so off. It happened more than a year ago and you know how Bianca could have tricks up her sleeve and how she improves a lot. Caxnival is something that you could no longer even look at to be valid. It’s just too old and doesn’t apply to anybody at this stage.
Also I’ll look at last game.
Dolby said:
Btw, meta was sourced before a good half of the this-game analysis
