Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

[EpicGamer12]

I scum read you before you read me

I mean maybe, but I scumread you at your RQS which I believe was before the whole mog/unravel interaction. I didn't say anything in the thread until your other post.

 

[Biancasbotique]

I'm sorry Bianca, I hope you're not taking it personally as I really like you as a person, I just genuinely find you one of the most suspicious at the moment. If you say you don't agree with everyone using meta, that's fair as it is subjective, but personally I always use meta at least on Day 1, not just for you but for everyone. It's not that there's anything wrong with the way you're talking or anything, your posts just to me seems more like scum Bianca than town Bianca.

However I'm not going to vote for you right now, and I am going to go through with majority vote as I have been saying this whole time (unless some crazy nonsense CFDing goes down).

I definitely am not upset at you Vanessa. Hate the game, not the players but when I saw those posts from you (since you are the king). what do you think my reaction will be?

 

[mogyay]

At the time I posted that, I hadn't scum leaned anyone (sans Antonio, based of his rqs thing) so reading the dynamic of the three of them was the strangest part of the thread for me and that started my suspicion. Other than that everything else in terms of my opinion I had on them was in that post, like Mog being the least scummy of the 3. More of my trundle suspicion came in the heat between him and ness, which I commented on in a diff post. (Sorry idk if that answered what u were asking)

I had trundle linked in it all because he was how it started, this is what was going through my head:

- Mog could be angry at Trundle because they're both maf and they need a separation
- Mog could be angry at Waffles because they're both maf need a separation
- Waffles could be defending Trundle because they're both maf and they/she wanted to provoke Mog for a reaction
- Trundle as mafia could've came at Punchy to rouse a negative reaction
- Waffles as mafia could've defending town trundle to rouse a negative reaction out of mog

and thats where I was like, "Ok I can see at least one of them as mafia"

OR mog and punchy are good friends outside mafia, punchy often is upset at the things said in mafia and comes to mog upset about this, mog will therefore call out ppl being mean to punchy

like come one, i'm not gonna sit by and watch someone being made fun of like that lmao

 

[Dolby]

and stopping tunnelling is definitely a townlean? and me defending myself and saying people to stop using my meta is scumlean.

Stopping tunneling at a time where continuing tunneling furthers a sus on a theoretical town when they?re being widely sussed is something I TL for

 

[Jacob]

Well I guess at this point there isn't anyway else to explain it. Just my personal strongest opinions

 

[EpicGamer12]

r u serious? all of that appeal to emotion, ur whole general play style was just weird. you threw the whole game off, as soon as we were suspecting u, u came out with this whole emotion (which i'm sure is true) but it felt very manipulating, and as soon as me and vanessa stated that altho we believe u but that we couldn't trust u, u just decide to go on back on everything u said and were suddenly like 'o nope i'm calm now' like u were just joking with us the whole time, u completely derailed the thread, i don't see why u would do that if u were town. idk enough about ur meta to know if that's true or not. all i know is ur behaviour was weird and slightly manipulative, if u truly felt like u should have changed then u would have stuck to how u feel, not suddenly say 'nvm forget it' when it isn't working for u. and saying how u were gonna quit the game just bc of ness? i dunno man it's all way too weird for me. i'd have to relook at ur reads tbh, the one on vanessa seemed kind of interesting, i remember finding ur reasoning on jacob weak but i think that's bc u used a smiley face against him lol. this is just a placeholder vote, i'm sure it might change, it's better to get a vote in there just in case

like i said i'm not going anywhere and if i find myself finding someone more suspicious then ofc i will vote u but i feel v unsettled about u

I already explained why I did what I did, I literally thought Ness was targeting me because of our past. Even if my reasoning is weak, IT'S DAY ONE!!!!!!! What the heck is going through everyone's heads? Do I need to prove by induction that someone is scum first day to not be seen as suspicious?

 

[Biancasbotique]

Stopping tunneling at a time where continuing tunneling furthers a sus on a theoretical town when they’re being widely sussed is something I TL for

and im a theoretical scum because people used meta on me

 

[EpicGamer12]

Either way why didn't you vote for me back when I was actually using "AtE", when I was derailing the thread, instead of now? I'm trying to provoke discussion by pushing my suspicions and you vote me for having weak reads! What!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[mogyay]

I already explained why I did what I did, I literally thought Ness was targeting me because of our past. Even if my reasoning is weak, IT'S DAY ONE!!!!!!! What the heck is going through everyone's heads? Do I need to prove by induction that someone is scum first day to not be seen as suspicious?

yes but i don't think ur the type of person that would actually get so upset that u'd quit out a game bc of it and act that emotional. it's just my opinion : ( i'm sry if it's wrong, i keep saying that i'm ok changing my vote if i need to. u tried a new playstyle, it didn't work, u got worried. i think to myself is that a sus move or a genuine move? i decided sus move bc of the manipulation i felt based on some things u said (quitting out)

i'm sorry but it's how i feel

 

[Dolby]

and im a theoretical scum because people used meta on me

No, you’re scum because besides defense every read that you’ve made is a thinly disguised null, and you’re using all your effort to be confirntative towards those who sus you rather than productively solve

(And you’re outright dismissive of all sus on you for that matter)

 

[mogyay]

Either way why didn't you vote for me back when I was actually using "AtE", when I was derailing the thread, instead of now? I'm trying to provoke discussion by pushing my suspicions and you vote me for having weak reads! What!?!?!?!?!?!

i don't really ever vote until last day tbh

- - - Post Merge - - -

i'm not voting for u for weak reads, did u read what i said? i even said u had an interesting read that i will look more at, don't take what i say out of context please, i voted for u bc i felt it was right, that's the point of mafia, i don't want to be swayed by what everyone else is doing but i'm more than happy to take things into consideration and read into things more. like i said i'm sry, it's just how i feel

 

[EpicGamer12]

yes but i don't think ur the type of person that would actually get so upset that u'd quit out a game bc of it and act that emotional. it's just my opinion : ( i'm sry if it's wrong, i keep saying that i'm ok changing my vote if i need to. u tried a new playstyle, it didn't work, u got worried. i think to myself is that a sus move or a genuine move? i decided sus move bc of the manipulation i felt based on some things u said (quitting out)

i'm sorry but it's how i feel

I wasn't trying a new playstyle. I just expressed myself differently. Normally I would have freaked out at Ness for doing the same thing to me every game, but instead I just mellowed it out. Emotions come out of people, but the method of delivery is not always the same. And what makes you think I was worried? What was I worried about? I would never use "quitting" as an emotional tactic for getting people to think I'm town. Isn't that against the rules? Jeez

 

[Biancasbotique]

No, you’re scum because besides defense every read that you’ve made is a thinly disguised null, and you’re using all your effort to be confirntative towards those who sus you rather than productively solve

(And you’re outright dismissive of all sus on you for that matter)

i have a right to be confrontative as I don't want to be lynched and when the king is the biggest proponent to your being sussed, i have to defend myself.

and what did i dismiss? heyden? half empty-half full. He was thinking mafia doesn't want confirm everyone as it will narrow scumpool and im thinking of more like mafia does want to deduce who powerroles are so they can kill them and this means ruling out vanilla townies. so we are thinking in diffferent direction.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Honestly sorry that I'm blowing up at you, I just thought that I was wasting time for town last night, but now I feel like I am wasting even more time for town for continuing to be sussed for something so dumb.

 

[Biancasbotique]

PS: I was thinking of shutting up but then again, that got me thinking, why should I? that just gives scum more room to target me, rune is right

 

[mogyay]

I wasn't trying a new playstyle. I just expressed myself differently. Normally I would have freaked out at Ness for doing the same thing to me every game, but instead I just mellowed it out. Emotions come out of people, but the method of delivery is not always the same. And what makes you think I was worried? What was I worried about? I would never use "quitting" as an emotional tactic for getting people to think I'm town. Isn't that against the rules? Jeez

right but i think it's a fake playstyle tbh bc u entered the game not being nice. u wouldn't have said that about punchy had u actually been conducting urself better. ok well maybe not fake playstyle but there was something odd and inconsistent about it. i felt like it wasn't natual and if i'm wrong then i am very very sorry, but i am just going off of my gut feeling right now. well idk if it's against the rules but u def said something along those lines and it felt very forced. i'm sorry if you have changed that much and i am oblivious to it, like i said it's just how i feel

 

[Dolby]

Posting this here as to not just drop a vote unexplained. I'm voting trundle based off of what I've mentioned earlier. I'll most likely be back before EoD but I have a lot of book shopping and involvement fair so I'm kinda slammed with stuff.

If it helps Vanessa, I'd also be willing to switch to Unravel, Antonio or mog, in that order. I know ppl are town reading them for the most part for tone and effort and stuff- and they're my weaker scum leans- but I think both mog and Antonio are aware enough to mimic their town play as mafia, tbh

You?re gonna have to spell out why you?re voting Trundle over Unravel/Mog for me. There ain?t much in him and your distinction seems to be that he?s going after you between them when I?m looking at the posts before this

 

[mogyay]

Honestly sorry that I'm blowing up at you, I just thought that I was wasting time for town last night, but now I feel like I am wasting even more time for town for continuing to be sussed for something so dumb.

dw it's just me, i'm not even a good or accurate player lol. like i said tho it's just how i feel so please don't call it dumb, to me it makes sense : (

 

[Biancasbotique]

No, you’re scum because besides defense every read that you’ve made is a thinly disguised null, and you’re using all your effort to be confirntative towards those who sus you rather than productively solve

You are talking about Antonio and my null on him. Of course , it is null its not even disguised. I even made two numbered points to show the contrast. so yes it is null but dont say its disguised because i even numbered them to show the contrast.

 

[Dolby]

Also, holding Mog/Trundle as a group at this point is just dumb given where the votes are