Mafia 1984 Mafia: TOWN WINS!

[Arstotzkan]

Wanted to let you guys know I just got up from a nap, reading back rn

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Daniel, can I ask what changed your mind from before? Earlier today, you staunchly believed I was town. I'd like to clear up your doubts about me, if possible.

@Daniel and LaBelle I'd like to hear your replies to my defense, if you have anything to say about it.

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I AM going to change my vote,,, im not exactly sure if its gonna be for sarasakat or labelle just yet... any final words ?

I'm in the same boat as Labelle here - I don't have anything to say at the particular moment. You can feel free to read my defense, though. Ask questions if you have them

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I'll add stuff as I think of it. Which will prob happen tbh

 

[Damniel]

I read back from the entire game and there are many things that make me think it's you, I have nothing to say about your defense. I'm unshaken by it.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Alright, Daniel, listen to me: If you staunchly agreed with LaBelle's read of me, your main gripe with me wouldn't be with my attitude D2. It'd be with my initial suspicions of Endless and my support of Slammint. So there's a few things I'd really like you to notice, if you haven't:

1) LaBelle's argument and your reasons are different.
2) As it stands, LaBelle's argument was completely proven to be garbage. Bits and pieces taken out of context, ESPECIALLY **** from D1.
3) If you're sus of me for accepting my imminent lynch, then I'd like to hear your opinion on Labelle saying, "I never tried to convince you to 'vote with me'.", which correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like accepting the possibility of lynch. The only difference between the two situations was that I was the sole suspect D2 and now it's both of us D3.

Good god though, Labelle and Daniel, please see my and Ender's counterpoints to your argument.

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Daniel, disregard that last part then. I'm typing up a reply to your last post rn.

 

[Damniel]

I see you voted panda...guess there's no point in trying to convince me anymore.

 

[Arstotzkan]

I read back from the entire game and there are many things that make me think it's you, I have nothing to say about your defense. I'm unshaken by it.

1) If a defense says that the suspicion isn't even valid in the first place, you can't ignore that. Opinions, maybe, but if left alone, the validity of the suspicion crumbles if it's proven to be a farce and no one backs it up who believes in it.

What are these things that make you think it's me? I'd like to hear them.

Also, a follow up point on something I made - I don't blame LaBelle for accepting the lynch possibility. I don't think that's a valid reason for you to be sus in the first place.

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I see you voted panda...guess there's no point in trying to convince me anymore.

I'd rather make you see my innocence than leave a stone unturned, so if you want to keep discussing why you think I'm sus, do it

 

[LaBelleFleur]

I see you've made up your mind Panda... care to share your thoughts?

 

[Damniel]

@Sarsa but why? It seems more of that you know that LaBelle is innocent and that if you don't convince me that your innocent I'm voting for you next. I really don't think it's LaBelle and I'm sticking up for her. If it isn't her I'll still be going after you. If it is her... I think nothing else needs to be said. I'll let the lynch results speak for itself.

 

[LaBelleFleur]

...and she went offline. Without leaving any reasoning. Cool.

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Sarsa but why? It seems more of that you know that LaBelle is innocent and that if you don't convince me that your innocent I'm voting for you next. I really don't think it's LaBelle and I'm sticking up for her. If it isn't her I'll still be going after you. If it is her... I think nothing else needs to be said. I'll let the lynch results speak for itself.

Fair enough. I can see that you don't feel like discussing anything else until after the lynch, so wait we shall.

As for why, it's always good to get opinions out there. Yes, I want to clear the suspicion around me. Any defense does. But your opinion is the most important thing you have, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be kind of brushing it off to the wayside.

 

[Damniel]

I will talk about it when the lyching takes place. I've been doubting you left and right this whole game, LaBelle never told me to believe that you were mafia, this is my choice. I believe she's innocent and that your the suspicious one.

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I wonder were ender is at this time...

 

[Arstotzkan]

I will talk about it when the lyching takes place. I've been doubting you left and right this whole game, LaBelle never told me to believe that you were mafia, this is my choice. I believe she's innocent and that your the suspicious one.

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I wonder were ender is at this time...

If you're going to keep pushing your point, then back yourself up with examples and points and such. You keep sending mixed messages - you keep saying what you thinking of me, yet you say you only want to talk about it once the lynch takes place.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Yo Labelle, can you delete the repeat post?

 

[EnderWiggin]

I wonder were ender is at this time...

Ender was taking a nap to try to catch up on the sleep he has lost by watching Worlds.

 

[Damniel]

This will be my final thought and I wont back out on this, this I am sure off.
LaBelle is innocent, nothing will change my mind about that. Lynching LaBelle is the wrong decision but since I'll be dead when the mafian makes their kill, it will only be you 3 left.

 

[EnderWiggin]

We were messaging, yes, after he told me he was detective. We were both confused and trying to figure out who was the mafian between Ender & Kat. I sent him my suspicions on Kat the next day, and he told me he would back-up my vote.

I messaged you to see where your head was at. I never tried to convince you to 'vote with me' (as Ender so eloquently put it). If anything, I encouraged you in the opposite direction, since you've been suspicious of Ender the whole time and I told you to follow your reads through.

Panda's message about it intimated that it was a secret plan to vote for me, but then you two didn't follow after she voted.

 

[LaBelleFleur]

20 minutes until lynch.

Remaining town: Find each other. Work together. Ender's advice is sound:

I seriously want to know a. Why Labelle started this behind the scenes "Vote with me" thing, and b. Why Daniel has gone along with it. Public decision is literally town's biggest strongpoint, and instead making deals and decisions with singular people is... no. The only times I agree with the withholding of converse from town is when it's in town's favour. (Town network, etc)

To the two town who will be left after night ends: Have faith in your reads. Consider everyone's replies and all options, but also take them with a grain of salt - there's one mafian in there trying to get the last mislynch they need to win.

Good luck, town.

 

[PandaDarling]

UHHH.....

 

[LaBelleFleur]

Panda's message about it intimated that it was a secret plan to vote for me, but then you two didn't follow after she voted.

What? It was nothing like that at all, LOL. I straight up told Panda I didn't know who I thought was scum. Then once I'd made my case, I told her I was voting for Kat and offered to send her the post before I posted it here. Never once did she tell me to vote for you.

 

[PandaDarling]

you guys are forcing me to pick teams.... team Daniel/ Labelle Vs. Team Sarasakat/ Ender... ender has gone against the other mfian in this game so that makes me lean towards Labelle

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i dunno what to do...

 

[Damniel]

you guys are forcing me to pick teams.... team Daniel/ Labelle Vs. Team Sarasakat/ Ender... ender has gone against the other mfian in this game so that makes me lean towards Labelle

There's no forcing but it's between the 2 of us. So pick who you think is guilty and go after them.