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[Shyria]

I also have to mention at this point that I've seen more people complain about non TTer crying about TT than TTer crying about TT.
Again, please participate in the discussion and share your point of view, but how is saying "nOn TTers ArE CrY BaBiES aND ThAt'S ThAT" helpful for anyone?

 

[SpiritofAce]

Man I get that you didn’t have ill intent in making this thread, OP, but threads like this never do much good because they always get SO heated and nobody can ever reach an agreement on it... if I want to TT for whatever reason I will, and if people want to get mad at me for “cheating” when I’m just trying to have fun with my game, they will. Probably would’ve been best to just turn to google for your answers and for me to have not responded ^^;

I think that for people who have a schedule that makes playing the game throughout the day impossible and they can only play at night or whatever and therefore miss out on a lot, I can understand it. Personally though, I just think that time-travelling to achieve things in the game faster or to do trades (once again, irregularly altering the intended flow of the game) doesn't sit right with me. That's not to say you can't do it of course, I'm not telling any time-travellers that. It's their game. But that doesn't mean I can't see it as cheating.

 

[Vex L'Cour]

Reason people complain about TT'ers is usually due to spoilers or them jumping ahead to unlock special events/items early. This of course has been stopped in the new game (Given all special events are time locked and need server-side/online validation before they'll work). I've used TTing for a lot of different reasons in the past and I have 0 issue with it, it's your game and it's up to you how you play.

 

[SpiritofAce]

Oh - another point. Time travellers tend to be the ones posting on Reddit with no spoiler tags with the upgraded Nook's Cranny, which is annoying to a lot of us who want to see it for ourselves.

 

[Mairen]

Thankfully no one in this thread has actually come forward and said "noo! you aren't allowed to time travel! how dare you!". People have generally been saying that technically it is cheating, but play how you want. So I'm not sure why there have been a few comments from time travelers in here acting like they're being persecuted for their play style. If you are carrying that much guilt on your shoulders to the point that someone can't even disagree with your playstyle (note, disagree does not mean attacking. it simply means holding a different opinion), then either don't share with others how you play, or change the way you play so you aren't feeling guilty about it.

 

[ForgottenT]

Because it's exploiting, they specifically removed the "feature" for that reason, and went with updates rather than a full release.

The game is community driven, and it's a life simulator with the unique feature that it runs in real time, and have limitations in place, so when people exploit the crap out of it and are a part of a community then it doesn't matter how many excuses come up, it still affects everyone directly, or indirectly it doesn't really matter.
People take the game seriously lol.

 

[seliph]

Now there is a very important message that all of you should learn. Even if time traveling is cheating, it’s just as bad (or even worse) to be militant against it and people who do it. This is considered bigotry. It’s one thing if they ruin others’ games, but to complain about how others play their own games the way they want to makes you no different to a social justice warrior.

i think this is a bit much lol i might think they're dramatic but i would not go as far as to call them bigots

 

[Beehaw]

Now there is a very important message that all of you should learn. Even if time traveling is cheating, it’s just as bad (or even worse) to be militant against it and people who do it. This is considered bigotry. It’s one thing if they ruin others’ games, but to complain about how others play their own games the way they want to makes you no different to a social justice warrior.

Bruh did you just call nonTTers bigots for liking a certain playstyle? Yes we all agree bullying is bad, but you're allowed to feel upset/ disappointed people are getting things faster, unlocking things faster, and accruing more items than someone who isn't TTing. I see most of the jealousy happening due to the overall player economy being stilted towards TTers, and it therefore having an impact on other's games.

 

[insomniak]

I don't normally involve myself in the dramas, but..... *cough*

Spoiler

 

[Romaki]

I think that for people who have a schedule that makes playing the game throughout the day impossible and they can only play at night or whatever and therefore miss out on a lot, I can understand it. Personally though, I just think that time-travelling to achieve things in the game faster or to do trades (once again, irregularly altering the intended flow of the game) doesn't sit right with me. That's not to say you can't do it of course, I'm not telling any time-travellers that. It's their game. But that doesn't mean I can't see it as cheating.

This was my life with New Leaf at some point. I went in-game and told Isabelle the clock is wrong, so I got her to make the time six hours earlier because it was more convienent to my schedule.

I was very surprised to see the in-game clock removed from the game, the developers really put a lot of effort into the game to go against time travelers. With that and the lack of cloud saving regular players tend to be more aggressive towards TTers now as well.

 

[cheezu]

To me it is not cheating but it personally ruined the joy of experiencing New Leaf, which is why I'm not doing it this time around.
Ever since I discovered that I could just TT forward to unlock things/certain features earlier on in NL, the whole anticipation of looking forward to these things went away because I knew I could get them so easily.

As a non-TT-er, I just don't compare my own island to anyone else's because I know it probably looks like **** compared to theirs.

 

[Figment]

I don't time travel and that's my choice, but I don't have anything at all against people who do. In fact, I really just say "Good for you!" if that's how you get enjoyment out of the game. If that means that people who don't TT can benefit from their catalogs and experiences, I think that's great too.

Sometimes I wish I did TT, but would ultimately rather take it one day at a time. It makes me feel like I'm savoring the game more than grinding and ultimately I feel like I will stay invested in it for longer.

I do like that content and events are being released through DLC though so that there are surprises to look forward to that TTing can't spoil. People claim that that makes the game seem unfinished, but I wholeheartedly appreciate it.

 

[LuchaSloth]

I don't really care about TT'ing. I'm not doing any of it in New Horizons...but I used to do it in all of the other games. I guess I would consider it "cheating" in the very beginning of the game, because it creates a large gap between the "haves" and "have-nots" in terms of what people's towns look like. Those who do it are able to have millions of bells, a wide variety of items, pay off all of their buildings very quickly, etc. And those who don't do it are left playing the way the game is intended to be played...which, we all know, can be a very slow grind.

So...yeah, in the early weeks and months of the game's release, TT'ing can feel like cheating, simply because it divides players so drastically. But, after a year or so, I don't really think it matters at all. By then, everyone will be at a relatively similar place, regardless of who changed the clock. In the end, it's all fine. I want people to play however they want. It's their experience. I would probably classify it as a cheat...because it disrupts the normal gameplay and helps people get further quicker. But, there's also nothing wrong with cheating in a video game, IMO...if that's what you want to do.

 

[SuperK98]

I used to be an avid time traveler so I obviously don't have a problem with it, but I don't see how anyone can argue against the fact that it's simply not the way the game is meant to be played. Of course you bought the game so you can do whatever you want with it but you're sort of missing out on the big picture. It's just a fact that Animal Crossing is meant to be taken one day at a time, and it's a process to build up your town and being able to look back months or years later at all the progress you've made is typically a lot more rewarding than speeding through it and having done everything in a matter of weeks.

 

[Mello]

"Not the way the game was intended to be played."
"Using external methods to affect the game."

Both pretty common reasons for why people claim it's cheating. Neither of these holds any real weight to me... for reasons I've stated far too many times at this point. Basically, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks about TT'ing to me. They don't determine how I enjoy my game.

 

[lunachii]

I guess people think it's cheating at least in the beginning because the TT-ers will get their stores upgraded faster, get terraforming faster and stuff? Idk. I timetravel and has always done that, and I seriously don't see the freaking problem, I don't complain at others who play the game different than me so why should they??

 

[Sanaki]

I mean I personally think it depends on how you use it... but I would never call someone out for cheating if it's their game. I see the argument of why people think it is, and I see why it isn't. I personally time travel just to cycle out villagers and to move buildings (because it would take way too long to move every building) but that's really it. I don't have any solid opinions on it because this game is all about the owner's experience and everybody's experience is different.

 

[skogkyst]

I don't complain about Time Traveling, and I certainly don't care if other people do it, but I personally define it as cheating in the same way using cheat codes or an Action Replay would be cheating. Animal Crossing is designed to be played one day a time, but if you have more fun if you aren't following that gameplay style, go for it. But manipulating the system clock to avert gameplay mechanics is something that I can't really define as anything other than cheating.

Like I said, I have no problem with TT-ing (after all, you all paid the $60 to get the game), it's just not for me. I will add though that I have seen very few people actually complaining about time travelers compared to the number of people who are complaining about said complainers.

 

[Nefarious]

The only time I’d call it cheating is if you’re taking advantage of the online community with it. Be it farming NMT for trades, selling anything, whether it’s hybrids, rare items, or turnips, for high amounts so early since the game released. That spoils other’s that don’t TT, but also interacts with online, to fully enjoy the game.
Personally I don’t interact with online trading a lot to be bothered with this, but I can see why it would sour other people’s experience. I do get really ticked off seeing the crazy 1000+ NMT auctions even though I’ll never participate in them when they’re dirt cheap either. I see it ruining the online economy and that sucks the fun out of it for others.
I only TT’d occasionally because I have zero depth perception and like an idiot, placed a house one square off with out triple checking. Rather than waiting 3 days to fix it I TT to where I just have to wait the initial 1 day. I still get punished by paying an extra 100k. My TT habits do not effect anyone else, so I don’t see that as a problem and don’t care if others would call it cheating.

 

[stardrop-crossing]

I think the bottom line of the controversy surrounding it is the impact on the economy for player to player transactions/trades.

I think people can play how they want, and obviously there's merit to gathering both information and goods for others that want it, but I feel like it causes inflation that non TTers can't keep up with. For that, I understand the frustrations.