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Time Traveling is 100% cheating and there is no "if, and, or but". You are using outside source that is not part of the game regardless of your reasoning or intention.

Despite my strong feeling against Time Travelers, I acknowledge there are instance where time traveling is needed. But that doesn't apply to the majority of time travelers.
 
stardrop-crossing said:
I think the bottom line of the controversy surrounding it is the impact on the economy for player to player transactions/trades.

I think people can play how they want, and obviously there's merit to gathering both information and goods for others that want it, but I feel like it causes inflation that non TTers can't keep up with. For that, I understand the frustrations.
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I guess this is my only real complaint. Between TT and duping, the online economy is shot for players playing in real-time. But this is nothing new for the series.
 
Calling everything less than the pure experience “cheating” is a bit of an oversimplification. Nobody would put time traveling on the same tier as hacking, for example.

For me, this is how I view it: I love this game. I want to enjoy this game. The developers have said, and I have experienced for myself, that time traveling diminishes the intended experience of the game. I love waking up every morning to see what has changed and what is different. I think the aspects of waiting days for things to happen is a very valuable aspect of the game.

Time traveling has been included as a setting in previous iterations of the game for convenience and necessity for fixing the time, not for time traveling. The game has always punished time traveling. And no, unlike what others have said, the developers could not “get rid of” time traveling. It’s impossible without making the game online-only (and I can almost guarantee you that if the game were online only, they would not permit time traveling).

So, the developers of one of my favorite franchises of all time have created a new piece of art—and I do consider video games to be art—and they have built it to be played a certain way: without time traveling. They have said they do not want players to time travel because it will diminish their experience. Why would I want to disrespect the creators of the game by playing it in an unintended way? Why would I want my experience diminished? Why would I sacrifice any part of a game I’ve been waiting years for simply because I don’t like having to wait for things? That’s just not a good idea, in my opinion. It’s tantalizing, but so are many things that are not good ideas.

Obviously not “cheating” in a conventional sense, but hardly respectable, and not worth it.
 
Aeri Tyaelaria said:
Not to sound like I'm arguing, but I think the bigger hit on the economy is the duping.
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Yeah, one of the biggest argument for time traveling not being cheating is that players still have to play the game to earn the things they want to have. You can cycle and profit off of amiibo cards, but duping is much more quicker than actually doing anything at all.
 
Man, this has always been the age old dilemma when it comes to animal crossing and it will always have dissenting opinions. Just play the game however you want and while you’re entitled to your feelings and opinions about the game, some of ya’ll need to stop complaining about each other all the time, it’s so tiring.
 
Kaioin said:
What do you mean it's not true that Nintendo "lets us do it"? What do they do to stop us? What do they do to discourage it? Do they make any attempt to prevent us from doing it? No, of course they don't. So why is saying "Nintendo allows us to do it" false? They're not stopping us!

I agree that it is, very likely, impossible to completely prevent it - but they could definitely do more to discourage it, and they could definitely be doing more to try to prevent it - but they don't.
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What CAN they do? Other than require the Switch to be online before playing the game, there is no way to detect forward time travel. The game uses the System Clock to tell time, there is no way for the game to know if the system time is lying about the actual time without checking a Nintendo server for the time. But that gets messy when you deal with players changing (moving) time zones.

You know they removed the option to change the time from within the game right? Wasn't that enough to discourage it?
 
If you were meant to TT in this game, Nintendo would have implemented a system similar to harvest moon, where you go to the bed and sleep until the next day. Its kind of depressing that people who TT can offer millions of bells and NMT to trade for villagers etc, and I can offer a low wooden table and a tin can.
 
This forum should really have a main pinned thread for this topic so the other ones don't get lost. 😅
 
If I time travel myself I see it as cheating as you have to change the settings and it all seems too fast as the game is generally meant to be played day by day. If I do time travel it ruins the experience and makes me bored which is why when I time travelled I reset. It’s the same on the sims with me because when I enabled cheats I got bored and came off the game even though I didn’t care about achievements or progression. I’m not entirely sure why i feel this way but I feel like it personally ruins my experience however I don’t see it as cheating when other people do it. Games like star dew valley aren’t based on normal time so it’s just like playing animal crossing based on your own timing rather than on real day timing. I suppose it’s like on strategy games where you use gems or something to speed the process up but instead it’s just skipping some time to progress. Therefore I don’t see time travelling as a problem for others and it’s more of a personal preference to evade it. I don’t know why people who don’t time travel have a problem with people who do time travel because they bought the game and they can play it how they want to
 
On new horizons. I consider it just sleazy especially so early on in this games lifespan. There is no other reason to do so other than to get ahead of the curve and try to compete in this weird rat race for attention and gratification by others who really don't care about your established town. You can tell that the people defending this behavior are just insecure about their sleazy behavior that they try and justify it by blaming other factors or people.

Time traveling does has it purpose, for example on new leaf, late in it's lifespan people were more likely to have multiple towns and the community wasn't focused on being competitive because the game was older. It was still cheating but nobody would really care because there was nothing to prove.
 
Unfortunately the AC fandom is full of "gatekeepers" who believe that the game HAS to be played a certain way, and if you deviate from that style of play then you are wrong and a cheater. In reality speeding up the game clock isn't cheating, it's more manipulation. Time traveling doesn't automatically give you more bells or Nook Miles. But it does allow you to manipulate softlocks the game has put in place, such as the time it takes to build a house or store or move a building. And you can use TT to gain an advantage, but your basic time traveling doesn't really qualify as cheating.

Real cheating would be changing the game code so that your turnips sell for 999 bells, or duplicating NMT so you have an infinite amount. Cheating is forcing things that wouldn't happen naturally in the game to happen, which is not what you do when you TT. Yes, the developers have their own vision for how the game is supposed to be played, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to play the game that way. If you look at the rant thread you'll see lots of people unhappy with many aspects of the game, are they wrong for not agreeing with how the developers want the game to be played?

But this has been debated for years, and people have their opinions and won't change. If you want to time travel and you enjoy playing that way, go ahead! If you want to play day-by-day and experience the game slowly, you can play that way too! I think this argument wouldn't be so heated if people just played the game the way they wanted to and stopped trying to tell others how to play it.

Also, when someone posts their town and the comments are full of people saying "well they time traveled, that's why it looks so good." That's just being jealous and petty. Time traveling may have sped up the game, but that person still designed and created everything.
 
KnoxUK said:
On new horizons. I consider it just sleazy especially so early on in this games lifespan. There is no other reason to do so other than to get ahead of the curve and try to compete in this weird rat race for attention and gratification by others who really don't care about your established town. You can tell that the people defending this behavior are just insecure about their sleazy behavior that they try and justify it by blaming other factors or people.

Time traveling does has it purpose, for example on new leaf, late in it's lifespan people were more likely to have multiple towns and the community wasn't focused on being competitive because the game was older. It was still cheating but nobody would really care because there was nothing to prove.
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So I'm sleazy if I TT?
 
Honestly? I time travel because I know for SURE that once the quarantine is gone, I won't play as much (if at all) during weekdays and will end up lagging behind of everyone else. My island will turn into an endless project, just like my NL town did, because I just don't have the energy to do it after a 9,5 hour shift, five days a week - I'm just trying to get under my belt what I can, while I can, seriously.

I just don't see the need of people accusing others of cheating, just because they chose tt themselves. That's your choice - if you want to take it slow, by all means, feel free to - but I have too much free time on my hands, exhausted all other options of fun before/during the first weeks of quarantine and my brain needs to be stimulated. I don't have the time to catch 10 sea bass and think much about it - if I have an idea, especially for terraforming, I want to get it done ASAP or my executive dysfunction will tell me "no" in just about the next few irl hours.

To each their own, but seriously - why get mad at someone because they like to play a game their own way?
 
Some people are just major losers with nothing else to get upset about in their lives so they spend their time gate keeping and being extra about a videogame online. I have been playing this game since the original, and I really dont care what people choose to do with their game. They spent their money on it, they should play it however they want, and I don't care either way. That is my firm stance.

I will say, I am a time traveler, I do it day by day (as in, i never month/week hop) then I always revert back to real time when i'm done playing for the day. I just like to see new items in my shop so I can decorate quicker. I am very much an instant gratification type person and like to "get to the good stuff" quickly so I can start designing, so to speak. I do it for no other reason. I am simply impatient and that's my cross to bear.

I will add, that yes, I see the online trading/economy getting f'd up because there are greedy people with nook miles tickets, and that is a real serious shame. I would never partake in that. I don't even have a need for them. I wish people could play more fairly/there could be some implemented restrictions on it. Trying to trade items here is like water torture so far. No one seems interested for whatever reason. I don't even want to know what it's like to "adopt" villagers rn.
 
i've TT in previous non AC games. i totally get why some do it as a personal thing for something on their island or to help others etc... what i personally don't like about it, from my reading here and other places the last month(before i signed up), is that some are using it for profit both IRL and in game. to me, that's where it goes from tweeking the game to make your island better or to help others as some do, to actual cheating. so i would say for me, it's how you use TT, which makes it a cheat or not. since i have no plans to play other than with my hubby and a few friends, for the most part, it doesn't affect me. i'm a gamer to the core and i know there's always going to be scammers out there, seen it in dozens of games, they always find a way and the best way to avoid it is to limit who you allow on your island/limit which islands you go to. it also prevents you getting hacked hybrids etc.

TLDR:

it's how you use TT, that dictates whether or not it's a cheat to me.
 
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