Yes I am. Everyone can whine I don't care. Actual human beings are working on a game every single day and probably doing overwork hours and y'all just whine because no national dex. We're hitting 1000 pokemon with this game. They can't always cater to your needs
Pokémon Are you still gonna get Sword and Shield?
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xSuperMario64x
a very tired Bug 🪲💤
I'm prob not gonna get it. The game is just overall unappealing and even a bit disappointing. I'm not excited about it anymore, and I'm definitely not gonna shell out $60 for such an under-developed game.
I'm saving all my hype for LM3, Animal Crossing, and Spongebob BFBB Rehydrated. I'm genuinely excited for those games.
I'm saving all my hype for LM3, Animal Crossing, and Spongebob BFBB Rehydrated. I'm genuinely excited for those games.
Oof... This would take an entire essay to explain, but I'll try to shorten things. >.<
In Zelda:
-Their latest game took a new open world approach that was so good, it revolutionized game design of that genre of games.
In Animal Crossing:
-In the E3 trailer shown to us, they added an entirely new system of finding and managing resources, digging out paths, and basically developing a deserted island into a full-fledged town of our own. How is that not revolutionary in Animal Crossing?
In Mario:
-Super Mario Odyssey supposedly had so much content, customization, and thought and details put into it, that it revolutionized the whole genre of collectathon games.
In Fire Emblem:
-I don't know much about them, but before the E3 and leaks, the Fandom was considered the most angry of the franchises. But after them, there's so much hype in the fans that it looks like the Pokemon and Emblem fanbases switched sides right now.
Now, compared to Pokemon:
-The battle system has remained extremely similar to Generation IV - and most of the additional features added since haven't revolutionized it much at all. Mega Evolution is just added stat increases and type/ability changes in battle, while Z-moves are just strong 1-time moves - and the fact that they removed them from Sword/Shield tells me they were just gimmicks to the game designers. Dynamax looks like a hybrid of Megas and Z-moves, with less effort on designs and graphics - And also doesn't revolutionize the battle system either in the same manner.
Since gen 7 The story arc and game progression curve has remained the same as the original titles. The same Lv. 5 Grass/Fire/Water Pokemon, the same early route system, the same regionally designed bird/rat, the same leveling up progression throughout the routes, the same mission to be champion, the same evil team, the same timing of legendary encounters, same items and much, much more. We could swap the new designs out and replace them with gen 1 Pokemon, rename every with gen one monikers, (Team Rocket, City names, etc.), and you'd find how crazy similar each Pokemon game is to each other. So far, the E3 demo hasn't proven it will be any different.
-Gamefreak tends to rush Pokemon games out, and never puts enough time to really polish them up. As a result, many of the features they've added don't feel fleshed out, and they have to remove features as well. People have called Pokemon the "Call of Duty" of Nintendo, where they just spam 'okay' games every year instead of taking time to make a great one.
-Game Freak is intentionally understaffed compared to other nintendo studios. Some sources say they have half the staff of the Zelda crew, and that they outsourced the Pokemon modeling to another company called Creatures. That, despite that they hold one of the biggest franchises in the world, and could have easily developed their staff for the games over the 20+ years of their existence.
There's much more to add, but again - It would take an entire essay.
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What you explained is true and all, but my only problem with it is that most of the games you mentioned are either out for the Switch or aren’t yet, but will be within the next year. Pokemon currently doesn’t have a game on the Switch (ignoring the Let’s Go games, as those aren’t mainline games and therefore don’t count). While the game may look bad right now, there’s still no telling what the finished product will look like come November. Still, I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that. I would agree that Super Mario Odyssey and The Legend of Zelda: BOTW are really good games. 
idiotdoomspiral
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i wasn't particularly interested in it anyway, but the controversies with the game have given me more of a reason not to pick it up
What you explained is true and all, but my only problem with it is that most of the games you mentioned are either out for the Switch or aren’t yet, but will be within the next year. Pokemon currently doesn’t have a game on the Switch (ignoring the Let’s Go games, as those aren’t mainline games and therefore don’t count). While the game may look bad right now, there’s still no telling what the finished product will look like come November. Still, I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that. I would agree that Super Mario Odyssey and The Legend of Zelda: BOTW are really good games.
Indeed - I still await to see what else they have in store. And who knows - Game Freak may have something left that may bring back my hype... Yet looking at their history and their focus on other new games, I'm just not very optimistic. :/
Let's see if they can prove me wrong.
It's a fine line they have to straddle between doing new things and still appeasing everyone's nostalgia for the series. I love the familiarity of the Pokemon games and was really disappointed that Sun and Moon took out the old gym badge system. I know I'm in a tiny minority here but I found BOTW was too different from old Zelda games. I don't think it was revolutionary to essentially put a happy, shiny Nintendo polish on a Dark Souls rip off.
Soot Sprite
~dirty~
I' still going to be buying both versions. As long as I have a place to store my living dex, I couldn't really care less whether there's a national dex or not in the new games.Everyone boycotting doesn't seem to realize that we know next to nothing about the game and there could be a reason there is no national dex. Also paired with the fact that there is always a new wave of fans buying every generation, I don't see the sales dropping as much as people hope. New players won't care as much about this dexit crap and they're still going to enjoy the game. Just because they had the pokemon models already made doesn't mean it's feasible to put them all and more in their first game designed for the switch.
To be fair, those are all the newest games with some not even being out yet. None of those series did anything spectacularly different in the majority of other games in their series, and that's fine. 3D Zelda games for example haven't really been any different from one another since Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask being the only exception there, the only noticable difference with them being a small handful of unique dungeon items that are usually useless outside of the dungeon and a different aesthetic for their massive empty HUB that has nothing of worth in it.
Pokemon has tried new things in a couple of games. The thing is though they usually drop any new or interesting mechanics the fans enjoyed like it's a hot bag of feces, yano, rather than keeping and refining those features. Even Sword/Shield is trying this pseudo open world thing and the awful looking Toho Kaiju simulator, yano, instead of keeping and expanding on mega evolutions and Z moves which fans actually seemed to like.
Ehingen Guy
Passionate Hybreeder
I already preordered the dual pack, so that would be "yes". I was already sucked in by the Nintendo Treehouse presentation.
Put me in the "Not sure yet" boat because I don't know if I will get one the versions on release day or
not. While I still follow any news about Pokemon, I'm not so interested in playing any Pokemon games
right now. The missing Pokedex is for me personally not such a big problem, I mean it sucks, but then
again, I can live with the fact that some Pokemon would be missing here, even if it's some of my
favorites. I would probably make a Gen 8 Pokemon only team anyway.
not. While I still follow any news about Pokemon, I'm not so interested in playing any Pokemon games
right now. The missing Pokedex is for me personally not such a big problem, I mean it sucks, but then
again, I can live with the fact that some Pokemon would be missing here, even if it's some of my
favorites. I would probably make a Gen 8 Pokemon only team anyway.
Definitely still getting. I'm still new to the Pokemon games franchise so not having the National Dex isn't really an issue for me. I was unsure which game I was going to get until I saw this fellow:
I've now asked my family for Shield for Christmas (along with a Switch).
I've now asked my family for Shield for Christmas (along with a Switch).
I'm not getting it, but I lost my interest in Pokemon a while ago. I barely played Moon (rushed to finish the main story and that's it, didn't do any post-game and did maybe 2 battles online with friends), and I never got USUM. I wasn't planning on getting the game even before all of the E3 drama.
Hopeless Opus
diluc is my king
yea ill still get it lol though i am annoyed at the lack of a national dex
I don't have the switch so no. I planned to buy it with the switch but seeing how it's turning out I probably won't. I'll just hope there will be an ACNH bundle. I really wanted to buy Super Mario Maker because I'm scared that in march the game will be "outdated". But I don't have the choice I guess.
Yeah I'll still get it for sure. I'm not like a hardcore Pokemon fan so the stuff about the dex doesn't really bother me and I really like the new characters and starters. But I understand from the viewpoint of others that this game might be a huge letdown for them but for me I just wanna enjoy whatever it is
Golden_Purrl
Cool Calico
I?m STILL on the fence. I think it?s likely that I?ll get just Sword though.
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