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I feel Armadillo has sounded more of a mix of confused town and hyperactive to me? I've tried looking at the posts but I don't see a whole lot of defending so much as just confusion. Also at the very least the thing I asked her about I did get an immediate answer to, I'm not sure how much that weighs against the point of avoiding questions.
One thing that did bother me earlier was B100m not responding to the explanation about not trusting friends at all. Maybe I'm reading too much in to it but it feels a bit like leaning on that friendship as a crutch. She has only really talked with Armadillo too, and even used Armadillo as a basis for her vote immediately. I hope I'm making sense at all. Of the two I almost feel B100m is more suspicious.
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I'm not saying both of them are mafia, but the possibility of maf!b100m and town!Armadillo lingers in my mind after that.
True, so how about this: let's vote armadillo, then if she's innocent, which she claims to be, then we'll vote b100ming. If it's not armadillo, I bet 50 tbt it's b100ming. All I know it I think definitely one of them is the mafia but not sure eon the other
It's the only way to be sure. I don't mean to seem rude, but they way you and your friend were acting seems...questionable and slightly suspicious, especially when b100ming came to your rescue. Like I said, you both could be innocent, but I agree with sheep villager and tessa here.
Whatever just vote anyone then. It's confusing because I think what tessa and sheep villager are saying is right, though we don't have any evidence, so we'll just have to vote out armadillo.
Also we can unvote the inactive person since they'll get kicked out anyway
here's the thing, me, sheep and tessa, all can be mafia. In my pov, you can be mafia. mafia wants to hang someone that is town, so they are going to fabricate logic to convince everyone. so I'm sorry if I sound too harsh, but I ask you to have a good reasoning to hang someone because for all I know you could be just wanting to hang an innocent person
And now you're willing to migrate onto b100. Since you were seeing it as either Armadillo or b100 were mafia, what has brought you to migrate onto b100? Not counting that I am willing to vote b100 but not Armadillo.
@Geoni when I join I say I will have low activity, I've been checking, but the conversation to me is filler, I can't do analysis like you, so I had really nothing to add, was waiting for you because the no vote annoyed me not gonna lie.
After seeing the thread, I can add that I like Volt holster of the Armadillo push.
I honestly don't know what to think of armadillo, but I disliked the we are besties so we are town because of it
I don't remember why I like Koopa dude, but was probably because not wanting to join the no vote thing.
btw I spoke to someone who was praising how good you were getting at mafia on other sites so I guess I have come in with higher expectations. Forgot you mentioned you will have low activity.
What do you think about Volt's pushing of the 'fabricated' narrative in regards to tessa? Do you agree or disagree with it? Uncertain like me?
General summary of the day as I see it: We have people wanting to no elim and that's been the main point of discussion so far, in addition to people being confused by some of Armadillo's behavior, and questioning b100's echoing of the no-elimination take. Volt thinks Tessa is fabricating posts. Mog is needing to catch up. Ace has provided only one hint of a townread and I hope he's catching up as well. Votes are low and scattered, no real wagon.
Course of action: In a setup like this a no-elimination is still going to damage us more because we're not confident enough with our information gathering to make a swing, regardless of it being a hit or a miss. I'm going to start out with a big bolded question @ everyone after this post that'll move things in the right direction.
But don't you think there are people you should find you can trust as the game progresses?
You then proceed to just back and forth and joke around for a few pages. Nothing wrong with that, but you are more or less just supporting people's doubts rather than pushing to find information. Then your first truly content related post is this:
And then you turn around and vote me just for not being around.
For me it's not necessarily about you posting the same sentiment right afterwards but rather that it was your first content-related action in the game to take that stance once someone else took it. I guess your voting me is in the least you taking a shot and wanting to find something out, but if I hadn't posted anything, what information would have been gained from me flipping green when you could have chosen to no-elimination? Sounds like violence.
I have nothing to note from you so far, you're as late as I am it would seem. What do you think about the main points brought up so far? As in, everyone's stances. If you need me to wrap up the stances people have taken to make things easier for you I can do so. I probably will anyways.
Noting the entry to the thread was that you wanted to wait for people to post before playing but didn't feel the need to banter either. Not super AIing this yet just putting it down as an approach. Also this won't destroy any friendships, don't let that be a concern when it comes to playing. Does anyone ever say sorry when they knock a friend's piece off the board playing Sorry? Just think of it that way.
I don't think it's good to just see that as two mafia partners outright, they're probably just around at the same time, but I feel like you're coming from a point of view that you want to figure things out in saying this.
Entry was obviously joking banter between you and Ace, nothing AI in it. Dunno why you are surprised there's a lot of filler. I'm confident you can push through it. It's day 1 after all. You feel very attack mode on Armadillo Lover for making statements an unsure new player would probably make, do you find anything AI about it or are you just aggressive by nature? Don't recall you being but you've also had a lot of time between when I was last in a game with you.
Again this post quantity isn't that difficult to keep up with. Why are you asking someone else instead of looking into the moment itself after saying it's weird? The towny approach is to try and figure out what's behind a moment that pings you, or in this case a moment you find weird. I appreciate you talking Armadillo out of a paranoia/panic mode that was going on page 8. Speaking of which why am I on 20 PPP again?
What about it seems fabricated? Is that a tone you've only seen from tessa when they are mafia as opposed to when they are town? Could you give some specific posts?
Again you bring up the word fabrication. What are you seeing? I'm not sure I see it yet in tessa's posts. I'll re-eval on ISO down the line but I'm just not seeing it on first glance. You sounded like you had meta though?
Why was everyone suspicious as opposed to not suspicious at the time you posted this?
Most people who have at least played a few games will be voting on day 1, it shouldn't be seen as suspicious on its own, what should be sus is their reasons why.
I'm noting a lot of paranoia from you which is a towny approach as long as you don't bank on it once there is plenty of information further on.
Mindmelded with this just a little but I only slightly dislike it. It's sorta mafia-like for someone to maintain people not wanting information before a night kill. Was that the intent? Don't know with confidence yet. Just jotting down that you had a similar thought to me if anything.
I don't know why I have this expectation but I expect you to look into what everyone else is saying in the thread and why they're saying it, outside of Armadillo. If it's a 9 player setup there are 2 mafia, so who do you think is a partner? That's the kind of solving/mindset I'm expecting.
Given her state of mind why does it come off as alignment indicative? I'm feeling pretty neutral about it atm.
First post was 'I like the Koopa dude' which is an approach I remember from Ace, kind of throws out brief statements as to who he likes and dislikes. I will of course ask you to provide a reason why at some point.
Why is this the only thing I have from you as I begin to wrap up my catchup notes?
What I have from all this:
I feel good about Koopa and Sheep.
Okayish about Armadillo.
Neutral/mehish on Volt and Tessa because while I think there's a lot of helpful posts from them their takes have been very questionable for me? I don't see what they are seeing. Specifically Tessa's points on Armadillo and Volt's points on Tessa.
True Neutral on mog because there's not much to go on.
Neutral but harsher on Ace because there's also not much to go on but I expect a little more from him. Just behind mog as the person with the least takes?
b100 I found slightly sus for reasons stated. I feel like in my notes I had something I +1'd from Sheep that I agree with in regards to the b100 take but I'm back and forth between tabs and should be using google docs instead but I'm a disorganized shmuck.
I'll need to re-retrieve those quotes from Sheep that I swore I reacted to.
Who are the people you will not vote for today and why?
Lets pretend no-elimination wasn't a choice and the host forces you to vote, who are the people you are considering and why?
To answer my own question, I will not vote for Koopa, Sheep, or Armadillo today unless they say/do something that really changes my mind. I think I might have tessa in this category too unless Volt has some serious meta that changes my mind and/or I don't feel tessa is approaching the game from an authentic solvey point of view anymore.
Gun to head I would vote for b100 with the information I have or vote Ace to him to provide more takes.
mog and volt are in between the two categories for me. Volt has had a lot of helpful posts but complaints about filler while doing a lot of objectively helpful posting towards newer players while having a confusing take on tessa so far has me hesitating to put them in townreads yet. Mog is a shot in the dark. Don't let her remain a shot in the dark.
Koopa, Sheep, Armadillo,
Tessa mogyay
Volt
b100, Ace
Nobody is orange/red yet.
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come on why couldn't someone have posted in the last few minutes so that didn't merge and make the wall feel bigger D:
I also find it a little weird you enter the thread with all of this, knowing that most players will follow you and you would take control of the thread, because I've seen post that quantity = town.
So I will check on that, because I mean you play like this and is okay, but you also know how to use this to gain an advantage.
What did you think of Ace randomly saying he liked you? That remains the only take I can remember. And why I'm voting him.
I just figured he was trying to be friendly, but I can see how that would make him suspicious to you.
Updated list since I forgot a few people: Definitely not mafia:
Me
tessa
Geoni
Sheep Might be mafia, but I'm not too sure:
Voltairenism is probably the most suspicious out of the four since they were defending armadillo. I agree with them I the terms that it wasn't really a a good source of information, though I am certain that one of them is mafia.
Ace Marvel seems ok to me but he hasn't talked much so I don't know for sure if I should trust him.
Mogyay hasn't been really active either.
Armadillo is currently here now since she claims to be innocent, but I still have my suspicions, but not as much as b100ming. Suspicious of:
B100ming. She's probably the best option here, next to Ace marvel, but since we can't trust both of them, I'd say her over him.
And now you're willing to migrate onto b100. Since you were seeing it as either Armadillo or b100 were mafia, what has brought you to migrate onto b100? Not counting that I am willing to vote b100 but not Armadillo.
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btw I spoke to someone who was praising how good you were getting at mafia on other sites so I guess I have come in with higher expectations. Forgot you mentioned you will have low activity.
What do you think about Volt's pushing of the 'fabricated' narrative in regards to tessa? Do you agree or disagree with it? Uncertain like me?
I was willing to move on to bl00ming because of the way voltairenism put it like armadillo is definitely innocent, but the thing is, anyone can claim that they are innocent, but It doesn't always mean it. Think like among us for a second. The imposter usually doesn't outright say they are the imposter. They usually try their best to act innocent. And that's the vibe I get from both b100ming and her friend. Though armadillo probably isn't apart of the mafia, you can see how that would make me suspicious. I'm uncertain on voltairenism though, since they were so quick to protect armadillo. Usually town people don't do that.
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So therefore I think voting b100ming would be the best option here, however Ace marvel is also suspicious too, so I recommend voting them. If there is anything else that should be mentioned, feel free to let me know.
I'm a lot less confident than I might come off as. I don't have much evidence here, it's just considerations/questions for people about things I want to hear more about from people. You're a main topic, and a lot of people seem eager to just sheep a wagon on you ever since I aired that I found your posts as being some of the most questionable, so try not to get defeated by what seems to be evolving here.
I think what would benefit you is to just answer this question for me: who in the game appears to be genuinely trying to figure out who is town and who is mafia from your point of view? Reread some of everyone's recent posts and tell us who you think has the information and who is coming across as not having the information?
That and I had a feeling about something you just pointed out, that people would just jump on voting the person who I think is the most questionable because I'm coming across as experienced. The reality is that whoever the most questionable person is is at least putting forth the effort to participate in day 1 when others might know they can get by on not needing to. The most questionable person =/= the most likely to flip red.
Tbh I should probably not jump the gun on finding Sheep so towny so soon either when I think about it that way.
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But yeah Ace you're best off taking what little time you've got forming opinions on the entire playerlist, I know that you as a townie operate on being intuitive and rapid on your takes, who cares if it results in a tunnel or whatever. I'm just trying to get as much information on the table as possible and see who tries to do what with that information. Or if people are being selective about the information we have. I'm saying that to everyone here, really. That's what day 1 is about. Everyone look at everyone.
@Geoni the reason I said I was voting for you was because @Armadillo lover said something about being worried that the currently inactive people were mafia and hadn’t checked yet, and you were not on at all at that time, so I voted you. Probably a time zone thing though. And then they said the inactive ones were gonna be kicked off anyway if they didn’t come on. So I was gonna change it, but I couldn’t decide if I should vote for someone or not. Then Koopa’s suggestion that if armadillo was mafia then I was to, or it was an either or thing. At the start I was sus of ace for saying we should vote someone off every time, which seemed like a way mafia could turn town against each other and win. Then my internal processor - I mean, uh, brain - was overloaded so I had to fix that. I’m really confused on who to vote now and I’d kinda feel bad about voting someone off cuz I’m worried they’ll take it personally.
Trying to understand what you mean about what Volt is saying about Armadillo and how it relates to your progression off Armadillo and onto b100, could you reword it?
I have almost 100 games in a little more than a year, but just like you said, this is low effort. TBT is not where I play now, and I joined to help Daniel fill the game, because even if this is not my main hub anymore, I don't want to see mafia die here, Hence why I want to help games here, but beyond that I will be low activity and don't confuse that with not caring, just that I won't be here like I used to, I won't be emotionally invested like I used too, because games here and to end badly when that happen.
When I started seeing, the lets not vote and you wanting to vote someone is mafia, and then the we are friends we don't lie, I lost interest in being part of that conversation.
So you might remember me like a mover and shaker, but honestly you won't see it here, suss me for that if you want.
Game wise
After seeing Koopa reaction to follow you, I'm not so sure of that player so much anymore. Koopa went from vote whoever to I will do what Geoni says. And yes new players tend to do that, but it still didn't sit right with me.
Tessa like I said was looking for a familiar face, and the more I think about it, doing so publicly means they can't privately, so my first real town lean read is Tessa.
Volt I like their control of the thread, but seeing how volatile the current state of the thread is, I can see them using that to get townie points.
MOG I really have no opinion, but I like MOG as a person, so I hope to see more of MOG
Sheep I'm glad they decide to join after specing so many games, so I think out of the newbies, they will be the trickiest to read, but so far I liked what I saw of them.
Armadillo is just here for me, but seeing how easily everyone was willing to vote them, makes me think they are town.
@Geoni the reason I said I was voting for you was because @Armadillo lover said something about being worried that the currently inactive people were mafia and hadn’t checked yet, and you were not on at all at that time, so I voted you. Probably a time zone thing though. And then they said the inactive ones were gonna be kicked off anyway if they didn’t come on. So I was gonna change it, but I couldn’t decide if I should vote for someone or not. Then Koopa’s suggestion that if armadillo was mafia then I was to, or it was an either or thing. At the start I was sus of ace for saying we should vote someone off every time, which seemed like a way mafia could turn town against each other and win. Then my internal processor - I mean, uh, brain - was overloaded so I had to fix that. I’m really confused on who to vote now and I’d kinda feel bad about voting someone off cuz I’m worried they’ll take it personally.
You can't be worried about them taking it personally. I think we all understand not to take this game personally because it's teams against teams and you're assigned to one team or the other.
Ace saying someone should be voted on day 1 shouldn't be seen as suspicious, because if town just didn't want to vote for another player because it could end up being a mistake and they oust one of their own and voted to no eliminate every day, then mafia would just sweep the game. The imposter would be the only one moving around the ship and everyone else would be standing still, in Among Us terms.
If you are overloaded why not just interact with people and figure them out by means of interaction? If you still want to know the full picture, look at the work others have done and follow quotes back to their context so you're not just taking their word for it and can come to your own conclusion. There's plenty of different ways to go about it. If you're new to this style of mafia you will have to figure out which approach is best for you. Pick an approach and run with it. If it doesn't work for you, try a different approach the next day or the next game.
Trying to understand what you mean about what Volt is saying about Armadillo and how it relates to your progression off Armadillo and onto b100, could you reword it?
So they way voltairenism protected armadillo and saying how the reason we were voting her off was stupid, which it is, but it can also make sense in a way, plus half the time armadillo seems uncertain. It was probably because it's her first time playing, but it seemed like they way voltairenism and bl00ming protected her, could mean they are mafia. It could just be a friend thing, but my suspicons were on bl00ming more because she didn't have much backup proof that armadillo is innocent other than "she's my friend irl". So I voted her. However now that you say it, voting voltairenism off could be a good decision as well, since voltairenism was so quick to protect her, it could mean she's mafia. Not a 100, just a possibility. Ace seems ok to me, even though he hasn't been on much, but if you want to vote him, you do you.
@Geoni the reason I said I was voting for you was because @Armadillo lover said something about being worried that the currently inactive people were mafia and hadn’t checked yet, and you were not on at all at that time, so I voted you. Probably a time zone thing though. And then they said the inactive ones were gonna be kicked off anyway if they didn’t come on. So I was gonna change it, but I couldn’t decide if I should vote for someone or not. Then Koopa’s suggestion that if armadillo was mafia then I was to, or it was an either or thing. At the start I was sus of ace for saying we should vote someone off every time, which seemed like a way mafia could turn town against each other and win. Then my internal processor - I mean, uh, brain - was overloaded so I had to fix that. I’m really confused on who to vote now and I’d kinda feel bad about voting someone off cuz I’m worried they’ll take it personally.
Voting people off is part of the game, if you are willing to play, you have to accept that you might be voted off, and it should never be personal. So don't worry about that.
Not voting anyone off makes it harder for the cop to find mafia, and also lets mafia lower the player count without really having consequences for it.
So they way voltairenism protected armadillo and saying how the reason we were voting her off was stupid, which it is, but it can also make sense in a way, plus half the time armadillo seems uncertain. It was probably because it's her first time playing, but it seemed like they way voltairenism and bl00ming protected her, could mean they are mafia. It could just be a friend thing, but my suspicons were on bl00ming more because she didn't have much backup proof that armadillo is innocent other than "she's my friend irl". So I voted her. However now that you say it, voting voltairenism off could be a good decision as well, since voltairenism was so quick to protect her, it could mean she's mafia. Not a 100, just a possibility. Ace seems ok to me, even though he hasn't been on much, but if you want to vote him, you do you.
So they way voltairenism protected armadillo and saying how the reason we were voting her off was stupid, which it is, but it can also make sense in a way, plus half the time armadillo seems uncertain. It was probably because it's her first time playing, but it seemed like they way voltairenism and bl00ming protected her, could mean they are mafia. It could just be a friend thing, but my suspicons were on bl00ming more because she didn't have much backup proof that armadillo is innocent other than "she's my friend irl". So I voted her. However now that you say it, voting voltairenism off could be a good decision as well, since voltairenism was so quick to protect her, it could mean she's mafia. Not a 100, just a possibility. Ace seems ok to me, even though he hasn't been on much, but if you want to vote him, you do you.
I don't think b100 was using that as a way to say Armadillo was overall innocent, just innocent of their back to back 'lets vote no elim' posts suggesting they're the mafia partners. @b100ming can correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe look into Volt to make sure you're not anchoring yourself into 'one of these two (Dillo/b100) must be mafia' because it's possible they could both even be town.
Ok, a lot of the stuff armadillo and I have been saying was a joke, not serious. The reason we don’t agree with the reasons for calling us sus is because we have a similar sense of humor and being friends we can tell when the other is joking. Comments like this that people have been finding sus:
I am sure that I would know if my friend was a robot………I am pretty sure she is not a robot. but if she was then that would explain why she is really good at finding things On the internet.
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Also everyone here is sus and I am definitely the only normal one and everyone else is part of the mafia, I am going to vote everyone……even though everything I am saying is not possible. Also this game is more confusing then a maze.
I didn’t understand the second post you made. My brain is in broken mode
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NOW WE ARE BETTING ON PEOPLE!
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I am so sad because I am going to get voted out and then you will see I am innocent and I will be . I was just joking around trying to be funny about the mafia thing, but now I am getting voted out because of it.
Are all jokes intended to lighten the mood and stuff.
Also the probability of us both getting mafia in the same game is extremely low. The same chance as my brother and I being the two impostors in ten player among us servers.
. I was just joking around trying to be funny about the mafia thing, but now I am getting voted out because of it.
