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[Ashtot]

If possible it would be great if you guys could stop posting single non constructive sentences so we can keep the thread clean and easier to read for everyone.

 

[Endless]

Is nobody going to talk about what I've had to say about LaBelleFleur luuuuuurking this thread? What does everyone else think about them? While lurking, only posts when I call them out. Is new from what I know and while the lurking criticism can get old with players we have more experience with, I'm gonna be harsher here.

I'm asking what everyone else thinks about the nature of her responses for a reason, but go ahead and continue to try act like an edgy pro from somewhere else.

Bolded is the misrepresentation of what you'd asked. (First post is an incredulous question asking why no one else has noticed what you have and second acts like you were trying to get discussion going over whether it was bad content.) Underlined is the incorrect information provided on what was blatantly a push. She's posted 4 times prior to this, with only one of the responses being directed at you.
>>>>>Lynch this guy.
Pre-post edit: His last post is affixing attention on his intended victim. Speed up the wagon.

Ashtot, you appear to have a chip on your shoulder. I've already outed a read and I'm the one that started the RQS (which supplies people with a method to enter the game, helps us know when we can expect them to respond so that stalling as mafia is harder and simultaneously familiarises us with them. The final question is complete bs but I felt the need to put it in there for fun.)
I can't think of a post, bar the one where I called you BAM for disagreeing with me, that wasn't useful.
Pre-post edit: Ashtot, you haven't posted anything useful. Hate to break this to you.

 

[Pathetic]

stop killing the thread

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thanks abe for fixing the thread. anyways i'm gonna go read the thread and stop being a *****. ttyl

 

[Ashtot]

Bolded is the misrepresentation of what you'd asked. (First post is an incredulous question asking why no one else has noticed what you have and second acts like you were trying to get discussion going over whether it was bad content.) Underlined is the incorrect information provided on what was blatantly a push. She's posted 4 times prior to this, with only one of the responses being directed at you.
>>>>>Lynch this guy.
Pre-post edit: His last post is affixing attention on his intended victim. Speed up the wagon.

Ashtot, you appear to have a chip on your shoulder. I've already outed a read and I'm the one that started the RQS (which supplies people with a method to enter the game, helps us know when we can expect them to respond so that stalling as mafia is harder and simultaneously familiarises us with them. The final question is complete bs but I felt the need to put it in there for fun.)
I can't think of a post, bar the one where I called you BAM for disagreeing with me, that wasn't useful.
Pre-post edit: Ashtot, you haven't posted anything useful. Hate to break this to you.

Okay I'm switching my vote to you, it's clear you won't be helping Town in any way this game. I don't know if it's because you think you're amazing at Mafia, but you're completely blind to your own idiocy.

Also just as a heads up to any Mafia game you play in the future: RQS or whatever is completely useless to everyone in the game.

Also lol at you saying that I haven't posted anything useful.



Anyways I'm Innkeeper Karl, a Townie. I'm an old man apparently.

 

[Endless]

Birds of a feather stick together, I guess.

RQS is a fully established method used on the hub of forum mafia, Mafiascum. Saying it's useless isn't even an argument, it's just sheer ignorance.

I too would claim my useless role and help narrow the power roles down for the mafia.

 

[Ashtot]

Birds of a feather stick together, I guess.

RQS is a fully established method used on the hub of forum mafia, Mafiascum. Saying it's useless isn't even an argument, it's just sheer ignorance.

I too would claim my useless role and help narrow the power roles down for the mafia.

It's not ignorance, I'm just telling you it's useless for you to use in the future because it gets nothing done. You can't just say "omg its established on big mans mafia site its clearly the best way". Just because there is a forum dedicated to Mafia doesn't mean there aren't any idiots there.

Me claiming doesn't even narrow down power roles because It's ONE claim and we don't know how many there even are.

 

[Geoni]

Bolded is the misrepresentation of what you'd asked. (First post is an incredulous question asking why no one else has noticed what you have and second acts like you were trying to get discussion going over whether it was bad content.) Underlined is the incorrect information provided on what was blatantly a push. She's posted 4 times prior to this, with only one of the responses being directed at you.
>>>>>Lynch this guy.
Pre-post edit: His last post is affixing attention on his intended victim. Speed up the wagon.

It's sad to see that you're legit pretentious and I can't joke with you like I was originally trying to with the epicmafia jab and my ****posty video reactions. You're writing all of your posts with an air of 'what I say is certain and you should all listen to me' - people should listen to you, but nothing about your reads is definite. For example, But that's enough of me critiquing your attitude because it's obvious we're going to have to deal with it for as long as you're alive and around on the forum if it's your true face, so there's no point distracting with it.

It's day one, and ****posts are bound to happen. People know their roles as they're ****posting, and therefore there's plenty to read. Yet again and again people gripe about ****posting instead of putting in a little more thought into what that person's ****post/sentence structure has to do with motives or even how they're trying to set themselves up. I'm really and truly going to leave you to understand why I (I admit) am very much pushing one someone.

There's a bit I'll give you about your post at me, but I'm not clarifying it. Either way, I'm fine with the attention of the thread turning to these arguments. Lets see who sheeps who, amiright endless?

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Okay I'm switching my vote to you, it's clear you won't be helping Town in any way this game.

Since when do you do this when somebody gets upfront critical of you? I've done it in games before but even if you seem to get close at times, you rarely let just your emotions steer your vote, that's clearly what you're doing here. Step up the town game.

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RQS is a fully established method used on the hub of forum mafia, Mafiascum. Saying it's useless isn't even an argument, it's just sheer ignorance.

But acting like your methods are superior to our, I guess you could call folky mafia methods, is sheer pretension. To me it's a tomayto tomahto thing.

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also, made a lil error in the first paragraph, was going to use your bitey reactions to how I was posting about Belle as an example of the attitude you have on full display here*

 

[Ashtot]

Since when do you do this when somebody gets upfront critical of you? I've done it in games before but even if you seem to get close at times, you rarely let just your emotions steer your vote, that's clearly what you're doing here. Step up the town game.

It's less to do with emotion and more to do with the fact that he's an idiot. As you know from my past games, a person's attitude and usefulness takes priority over "but they might be Town" when it comes to my vote.

 

[Sonrio]

heres a GOOD question to ask everyone:

how experienced are you at mafia? do you think youre good?

 

[Pathetic]

u guys do realize arguing against each other is gonna lead us nowhere. there's atleast 1-3 towns in you so. yeah. if one of you guys get voted off so early + as town and most likely some towns and/or lurking/newer mafia's can just add their short-handed information and vote off with yr head.

can u guys just settle it down. i feel like a middle-aged woman telling you guys 2 do this. ashtot i know your ego's bursted and all but you don't have to get so mad aboout Endless trying to be all high and might himself. that isn't even an alignment tell.

 

[Ashtot]

I too would claim my useless role and help narrow the power roles down for the mafia.

Also for the record a Townie is one of the most useful roles in the game, but I'll leave you to your opinions.

 

[Pathetic]

lrn2pick up alignment tells. just bc they're protown and strong doesn't mean they're always town

 

[Ashtot]

heres a GOOD question to ask everyone:

how experienced are you at mafia? do you think youre good?

Why?

u guys do realize arguing against each other is gonna lead us nowhere. there's atleast 1-3 towns in you so. yeah. if one of you guys get voted off so early + as town and most likely some towns and/or lurking/newer mafia's can just add their short-handed information and vote off with yr head.

can u guys just settle it down. i feel like a middle-aged woman telling you guys 2 do this. ashtot i know your ego's bursted and all but you don't have to get so mad aboout Endless trying to be all high and might himself. that isn't even an alignment tell.

We're having a discussion, I don't know what else you'd have us do at this point. I mean I guess if you would like we could act like you and spam for a bit, but for some reason I feel like that would be less productive than the discussion going on right now.

And again I never said it was an alignment tell.

 

[Endless]

Jesus, I have to tackle one half of that post at a time.

It's not ignorance, I'm just telling you it's useless for you to use in the future because it gets nothing done. You can't just say "omg its established on big mans mafia site its clearly the best way". Just because there is a forum dedicated to Mafia doesn't mean there aren't any idiots there.

It's used universally across the site. Well, not universally, but a heck of a lot. It's the preferred method of kicking the game off over RVS, which people view as a perfectly fine way to kick the game off as well. If it was bad it wouldn't be used that much. On the flip side, I just explained why it's used that much to you, but you either didn't read my post or disregarded my reasoning. Either way is cool, you're still hella ignorant.

Me claiming doesn't even narrow down power roles because It's ONE claim and we don't know how many there even are.

Let's say there's 5 mafia. That leaves a pool of 11 (this is a 16 player game right?) other people, if we count the number of power roles we have as n (a variable), then the chance mafia has to kill a power role tonight is n/11 or n/10, depending on whether we lynch town or mafia today. If you're town, you statically increased that chance to n/10 or n/9, depending on what's lynched today. You didn't need to claim, it achieved nothing, and jeopardizes town.


You're so bad. And I'm not saying that to be an arrogant douche. I'm saying that for your own benefit. Individually, I think your mean skill at mafia isn't horrible, but your opinion is that it's way better than it is, which leads you to be both incredibly irritating and to make really bloody stupid mistakes. On the flip side, if you're mafia, then your play is going to give you an advantage since you can lynch town without looking bad. Since that isn't uncommon for you. However, we roll town more than we roll mafia so bloody well model your play in a way that benefits town.

Pre-post edit: Dad's last post was the best post he's made so far in the thread. The tone, actual effort and reasoning in it is better than probably every other post in the thread. I don't advocate a salad-rush at him anymore but I'm not unvoting either.
And yeah, it is a tamayto tamahto thing. But the part you need to recognize is that both of those are legitimate ways of saying the word. Or, in this case, both methods are legitimate starting methods. I'm not bashing RVS, I use it plenty often myself. But I wanted to kick this game off with RQS since you hadn't ever done that before. (And the few RVS starting games I read on this site didn't end so well.)

 

[Pathetic]

alignment-tells = signs that point they r town. u said u look for ppl who r pro-town and active. that contridcts your other statement about random-lynching otherwise. RLing usually consists of picking off the weaker players who are most likely to be blue or townie, lol.

honestly you guys aren't even discussing. if u guys truly were you wouldn't be insulting each other. just bc you're making long paragraph posts to see who's the better person isn't rly "discussion". you're just going at each others throats (esp. you and endless. just stop. none of you are better than the other)
dad's the really only person i see as trying to strike up some and then endless going at him, really

 

[Ashtot]

Jesus, I have to tackle one half of that post at a time.
It's used universally across the site. Well, not universally, but a heck of a lot. It's the preferred method of kicking the game off over RVS, which people view as a perfectly fine way to kick the game off as well. If it was bad it wouldn't be used that much. On the flip side, I just explained why it's used that much to you, but you either didn't read my post or disregarded my reasoning. Either way is cool, you're still hella ignorant.

Let's say there's 5 mafia. That leaves a pool of 11 (this is a 16 player game right?) other people, if we count the number of power roles we have as n (a variable), then the chance mafia has to kill a power role tonight is n/11 or n/10, depending on whether we lynch town or mafia today. If you're town, you statically increased that chance to n/10 or n/9, depending on what's lynched today. You didn't need to claim, it achieved nothing, and jeopardizes town.


You're so bad. And I'm not saying that to be an arrogant douche. I'm saying that for your own benefit. Individually, I think your mean skill at mafia isn't horrible, but your opinion is that it's way better than it is, which leads you to be both incredibly irritating and to make really bloody stupid mistakes. On the flip side, if you're mafia, then your play is going to give you an advantage since you can lynch town without looking bad. Since that isn't uncommon for you. However, we roll town more than we roll mafia so bloody well model your play in a way that benefits town.

Pre-post edit: Dad's last post was the best post he's made so far in the thread. The tone, actual effort and reasoning in it is better than probably every other post in the thread. I don't advocate a salad-rush at him anymore but I'm not unvoting either.
And yeah, it is a tamayto tamahto thing. But the part you need to recognize is that both of those are legitimate ways of saying the word. Or, in this case, both methods are legitimate starting methods. I'm not bashing RVS, I use it plenty often myself. But I wanted to kick this game off with RQS since you hadn't ever done that before. (And the few RVS starting games I read on this site didn't end so well.)

Wow you're a complete genius. You've read me completely and it's clear that I'm a terrible Mafia player based on you disagreeing with my opinions!

You're just spewing more arrogance masked as intelligence and it's hilarious.

 

[Endless]

It's less to do with emotion and more to do with the fact that he's an idiot. As you know from my past games, a person's attitude and usefulness takes priority over "but they might be Town" when it comes to my vote.

or lynching someone because they "wouldn't be useful later". (All you're doing with the latter is chopping up 2 people and skipping forward, you don't get any info, you don't get any vote patterns. You just get 2 dead people. Even if you hit mafia you didn't achieve anything. So yeah, we're never doing that ever.)

Jesus ****ing christ I swear to god.

heres a GOOD question to ask everyone:

how experienced are you at mafia? do you think youre good?

I think I'm quite a bit better than I actually am, so I'm going to avoid info dumping my various mafia awards and satisfy myself with 'above average'. Since this is a direct question to me you also know me as System or TweIve, that should give you a general idea of my skill level.

 

[Geoni]

Either way, your failure to take a breath and realize the magic trick we're both familiar with has ruined it. But I'll give you that I started the jabbing. But honestly all that's left is you coming off as voting emotionally like Ashtot is, but I hope I'm wrong about that.

My sleeping pills are kicking in: my piece of advice for discussion though: people need to give legitimate and honest reason for what they're voting or be prepared to actually have to explain it. And do. You have to. Do it.

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But honestly our discussion of technique is really distracting btw.

 

[Ashtot]

Jesus ****ing christ I swear to god.
I think I'm quite a bit better than I actually am, so I'm going to avoid info dumping my various mafia awards and satisfy myself with 'above average'. Since this is a direct question to me you also know me as System or TweIve, that should give you a general idea of my skill level.

You literally just said that killing Mafia achieves nothing. Are you frreaking kidding me? Do you know what the point of this game is?

If a Mafia member dies there's so much we can look at. Who did this person back up, who were they against, what did they say and why.

 

[Pathetic]

ok break it up ladies