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Mafia Bravely Default Mafia
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I'm here, albeit on my phone. Has no activity seriously happened in the last 6 or so hours?
Kills are really interesting. Neither were anyone's top townreads nor top scumreads, save lebelle voting nikkinikki. What's irritating is that nikkinikki was (from memory) the only person that town read tom. And none of the people that are hard pushing tom died.
So to conclude, either tom is hellishly ballsy or he's town. I'm not crossing out the first option but I'm not as confidant as I was on that area either.
Oh yeah, and we're massclaiming so I might as well claim. I'm Sage Yulyana, town Jack of All Trades.
Accessing PMS from phone is hell on earth so I'll do the flavour from memory, something like a night of ruh-something, haven't finished the game so I don't know what that is. And that I'm an old man that still thinks he can get girls. I have three night actions (scry, kill and save) that I can use once per game. I can use two in one night if I haven't used any yet in the game, but then I lose any ability to ever use the third.
I scried Ashtot n1 since I figured I wouldn't ever be able to read him. The dude is town, don't let him lead after I get night killed.
I almost shot tom last night. I got paranoid I was wrong post-nikkis post that this was his town play. In the end I decided to doc Dad because he was grinding most content and I hard town read him. So yeah, I still have my kill. We can't best utilize it either since there's a decent chance of a roleblocker in the game, so we'll have to put up with me killing by my own choice tonight.
Oh yeah, remember how I town read sonrio? Well I don't anymore. I'll post a case when I get home but he posted something awful last night.
Likely to do a player by player analysis when I get home.
Kills are really interesting. Neither were anyone's top townreads nor top scumreads, save lebelle voting nikkinikki. What's irritating is that nikkinikki was (from memory) the only person that town read tom. And none of the people that are hard pushing tom died.
So to conclude, either tom is hellishly ballsy or he's town. I'm not crossing out the first option but I'm not as confidant as I was on that area either.
Oh yeah, and we're massclaiming so I might as well claim. I'm Sage Yulyana, town Jack of All Trades.
Accessing PMS from phone is hell on earth so I'll do the flavour from memory, something like a night of ruh-something, haven't finished the game so I don't know what that is. And that I'm an old man that still thinks he can get girls. I have three night actions (scry, kill and save) that I can use once per game. I can use two in one night if I haven't used any yet in the game, but then I lose any ability to ever use the third.
I scried Ashtot n1 since I figured I wouldn't ever be able to read him. The dude is town, don't let him lead after I get night killed.
I almost shot tom last night. I got paranoid I was wrong post-nikkis post that this was his town play. In the end I decided to doc Dad because he was grinding most content and I hard town read him. So yeah, I still have my kill. We can't best utilize it either since there's a decent chance of a roleblocker in the game, so we'll have to put up with me killing by my own choice tonight.
Oh yeah, remember how I town read sonrio? Well I don't anymore. I'll post a case when I get home but he posted something awful last night.
Likely to do a player by player analysis when I get home.
ruh-something was apparently Seprah. I'm good at remembering things.
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EBWOP also knight. That was an incredibly poor typo and it embarrasses me to see it in my own post.
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Actually my phone probably autocorrected it. There's no way I made a typo so egregious.
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EBWOP also knight. That was an incredibly poor typo and it embarrasses me to see it in my own post.
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Actually my phone probably autocorrected it. There's no way I made a typo so egregious.
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Alright, it's time to get going.
I'm Agnes, a Doctor. I feel like it's opportune to let everyone know that I have quite a few protections stored up and I can use as many of them as I want per night. I'm going to post some opinions I have on the game at the moment.
Tom - While you were trying to draw attention to me all game, it is actually very understandable that you thought I was playing differently than normal. I obviously play different as a blue as to not get myself killed by mafia in the first or second night. Furthermore, I'm about as useless as Cory in non PM games (love you Cory) because interrogation and getting facts behind the scenes is the easiest way for me to notice flaws and holes in logic.
Throughout this game I have been reading through the thread but I haven't really gotten anything out of it. I tried to push Sonrio at the beginning of the game but you guys get too scared and resort to lynching newbies based on behavior.
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As I was making this post I kept scrolling through posts by each person but I don't really know who to go for. Chances are, mafia at this point are some of the most inactive and are just looking at town to run around with their heads chopped off.
From what I see, Crys and pillow bunny are the least active and passive posters right now. I suggest you too claim and give your name or you may be facing lynch.
Here we go, player by player analysis.
Sonrio
Literally everything he posted before last night was either a joke or irrelevant to the task at hand, starting last night however, he posted a sequence of far-below-average posts which probably means he's mafia. I'll rip them apart one by one:
Oh yeah, I'm taking this next quote out of chronological order to highlight his inconsistency:
This is pretty clearly not a stellar post. Yet he ignores all of the quality posts flying around and exults the guy that is mono-mindedly saladrushing audino.
Over-all I think Sonrio is attempting damn hard to appear town and is screwing up amazingly hard. Needs terminating post-haste.
Pillow-bunny
No words, I'm going to start this off with every piece of logic and push pillow bunny has delivered in chronological order. See if you can spot the similarity.
To summerize, incredibly confidant in their push while admitting to have not looked at any other options. Town - especially new town - does not exhibit this behaviour. The combination of lazy + willing to look at activity feed and other more-than-lazy tasks generates an inner contradiction of behaviour, indicating that some of it is not genuine.
Audino
I can't really say anything here other than what I've already said. Defensive early on, contradicts themselves plenty and caps all that off by voting opportunistically. I think I've somehow always had someone I wanted to lynch more in any given day but I can't really fault anyone for thinking there's mafia to be found here, if it wasn't for the scum-duo charging face forward at him I'd probably be down for this lynch as well.
Oh yeah, his roleclaim rocks. I need to mention this part.
Plenty for 1 post, I'll continue in the next post.
Sonrio
Literally everything he posted before last night was either a joke or irrelevant to the task at hand, starting last night however, he posted a sequence of far-below-average posts which probably means he's mafia. I'll rip them apart one by one:
How did that flip incriminate dad? Why is he hard pushing dad when he hasn't posted any reasoning on him? I mean, it's not really surprising since he literally doesn't explain anything he does. The heat, however, is almost definitely faked. I really doubt he's this worked up about a game he claimed '..had gone stale'.
Oh yeah, I'm taking this next quote out of chronological order to highlight his inconsistency:
To die, he'd have to be town, no?
What? In what world - no, universe, can you possibly say capella was a 'horrible' lynch. Capella wasn't the best lynch, but that was because it was a coinflip - she hadn't posted enough to alignment tell. Even ignoring the meta (which, btw, is a terrible reason to lynch someone) you can't justify defending someone that inactive. This is only part of one hell of a doozer of a post.
For context, let's bring up this post:
(Blue is my comments.)Here is my reasoning for thinking audino is a mafia:
- At the beginning of the game, sonrio said that they and audino were the mafia. This was probably a joke, but I think sonrio was actually right about audino, because afterwards audino seemed defensive and suspicious of sonrio.
This point is legitimate and already brought up a million times. Why I pushed Audino to start off with.
- audino voted for sonrio on day 1. I think audino did this because they knew sonrio wasn?t a mafia, but also wanted to draw suspicion off of themself. Like if sonrio died and it turned out they (sonrio) were a mafia, people would think that audino was also a mafia and kill them next. However if sonrio died and it turned out sonrio wasn?t a mafia, people would realize they (sonrio) was just joking so audino probably wasn?t a mafia either. Or audino was just trying to confuse people by making them suspicious of sonrio instead of themself.
This is invalid logic since Audino didn't catch much heat until day 2. Audino might've been voting opportunistically, but that wasn't to kill sonrio and have him flip town. People literally stated that they think they're opposite alignments because of the joke.
- Then on night 1 (apparently) the mafia didn?t kill anyone. audino didn?t post in the thread anytime during that night, and didn?t seem to be active on the rest of the forum either. If you look at audino?s activity, they only posted a bit a few hours after the night ended, and it wasn?t in the thread, and then not again until the next day.
Valid point but invalid since the activity was bugged. They posted during the night
- Due to this I think they may have forgotten to kill someone, or just gotten busy. Since no one died I?m more suspicious of people who were offline than people who were online but inactive. It could have been someone else who was also offline, but I?m too lazy to check through everyone.
Holy hell in a handbasket. Roughly half the game was inactive. Willing to check activity feed but not willing to skim the nightphase??
- Also audino said that Trundle voted for sonrio with ?no explanation?. Some other people have already pointed this one out though.
All of the points were already pointed out, actually.
This is pretty clearly not a stellar post. Yet he ignores all of the quality posts flying around and exults the guy that is mono-mindedly saladrushing audino.
Re-Wouldn't be this worked up. Hellishly, hellishly fake.
Over-all I think Sonrio is attempting damn hard to appear town and is screwing up amazingly hard. Needs terminating post-haste.
Pillow-bunny
No words, I'm going to start this off with every piece of logic and push pillow bunny has delivered in chronological order. See if you can spot the similarity.
Yup. That's right. You got it. They've done nothing the entire game but push Audino. Mentioning at one point that '..they were too lazy to check through everyone'. Combined with the border-line unbelievable noob-tells at the beginning of the game this is a pretty sure-fire mafia. Issue is I also think Audino is mafia. But Pillow+sonrio both don't appear to be on the same team as audino, ergo it's more likely that it's them rather than him.
To summerize, incredibly confidant in their push while admitting to have not looked at any other options. Town - especially new town - does not exhibit this behaviour. The combination of lazy + willing to look at activity feed and other more-than-lazy tasks generates an inner contradiction of behaviour, indicating that some of it is not genuine.
Audino
I can't really say anything here other than what I've already said. Defensive early on, contradicts themselves plenty and caps all that off by voting opportunistically. I think I've somehow always had someone I wanted to lynch more in any given day but I can't really fault anyone for thinking there's mafia to be found here, if it wasn't for the scum-duo charging face forward at him I'd probably be down for this lynch as well.
Oh yeah, his roleclaim rocks. I need to mention this part.
Plenty for 1 post, I'll continue in the next post.
Dad
Going to brush over him; like I stated earlier I believe that he's rock solid town and I'm pretty damn sure I already explained why in the thread. I will personally crucify anyone still trying to push this option.
Ashtot
Someone tell me the % chance there's a godfather in the setup, if the response is 'unlikely' then I'm going to never bother reading him again.
pre-post edit: Wait airy is probably a godfather. Jesus christ, I have to read him.
Nothing that really bleeds alignment after a skim. I think if I didn't have a scry on him I'd scumread him very slightly (This might be influenced by bias though since it's gut), but that's neither here nor there. Airy will be in the game and if we've lynched a couple of mafia and airy isn't dead and he isn't dead then I'll consider it, pre-that I'm removing him from the possible-lynch list.
Tom
Extensive case already made and submitted.
What I mentioned in my above posts about night kills still stands though. Someone tell me how likely tom is to have killed the one person townreading him while there were three strong players (Dad, Trundle and I) pushing him. Because it just reeks off and I don't think he did it.
Aside from that solitary point though he's shockingly scummy. I'm really for and against this lynch it feels weird. I'm tempted to just trust my early reads and saladrush this but while I'd feel amazing if he flipped red I would feel sick and contorted if he flipped green, and I really don't bloody know anymore. I want him to focus on pursuing something which isn't a shocking lynch.
Blu Rose
Not active enough for a solid read. Disagree with their push on Dad but I like the way it's presented. Town if anything but not really anything.
Trundle
I could reread him but I can remember always agreeing with him and liking his pushes, and his roleclaim smells genuine from lightyears away. I'm shoving him in the lock-town cabinet with Dad.
problem
Actually really like the analysis post, especially the parts on Sonrio, Audino and me. I like how she's continually bringing attention to crys which is an innovative play - and, from what I remember from crys's content, on point.
Actually this feels like elise's town play here. Slack, but in the right direction. Oh, and they defended tom so axe what I said about nikkinikki being the only defendant earlier. Replace it with 'only strong defendant'. Calling tom an 'obvious bored blue' doesn't hold water, unfortunately.
Crys
Getting out of the way that there's a wrong post they posted early on,
p)
They haven't scumtold like I thought they had. Not all that active but push on Sonrio is on point. Null leaning town in this area. There being a lack of bad content here bodes badly for elise.
Sonrio>pillow>Audino is the primary lynch modus for today, if anyone wants to vote someone else they can bring it up and town as a whole can discuss it. Straggling votes do nothing and we need to axe down on them. I don't think the list of three I brought up is unfair, the only person I can conceivably see being a target out of this is Tom and like I said earlier; not feeling that right now.
I'm going to submit this post, turn around, and flop-face first into my nice fluffy bed. I may or may not be awake in time for day end. To compensate for the chance I'm not, I'm going to shoot a vote at Sonrio.
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Side note, lack of kills points to pillow being blocked as mafia. Other kill could've easily been ITYW if mafia perceived him as blue.
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Srs I'm going to bed now.
Going to brush over him; like I stated earlier I believe that he's rock solid town and I'm pretty damn sure I already explained why in the thread. I will personally crucify anyone still trying to push this option.
Ashtot
Someone tell me the % chance there's a godfather in the setup, if the response is 'unlikely' then I'm going to never bother reading him again.
pre-post edit: Wait airy is probably a godfather. Jesus christ, I have to read him.
Nothing that really bleeds alignment after a skim. I think if I didn't have a scry on him I'd scumread him very slightly (This might be influenced by bias though since it's gut), but that's neither here nor there. Airy will be in the game and if we've lynched a couple of mafia and airy isn't dead and he isn't dead then I'll consider it, pre-that I'm removing him from the possible-lynch list.
Tom
Extensive case already made and submitted.
What I mentioned in my above posts about night kills still stands though. Someone tell me how likely tom is to have killed the one person townreading him while there were three strong players (Dad, Trundle and I) pushing him. Because it just reeks off and I don't think he did it.
Aside from that solitary point though he's shockingly scummy. I'm really for and against this lynch it feels weird. I'm tempted to just trust my early reads and saladrush this but while I'd feel amazing if he flipped red I would feel sick and contorted if he flipped green, and I really don't bloody know anymore. I want him to focus on pursuing something which isn't a shocking lynch.
Blu Rose
Not active enough for a solid read. Disagree with their push on Dad but I like the way it's presented. Town if anything but not really anything.
Trundle
I could reread him but I can remember always agreeing with him and liking his pushes, and his roleclaim smells genuine from lightyears away. I'm shoving him in the lock-town cabinet with Dad.
problem
Actually really like the analysis post, especially the parts on Sonrio, Audino and me. I like how she's continually bringing attention to crys which is an innovative play - and, from what I remember from crys's content, on point.
Actually this feels like elise's town play here. Slack, but in the right direction. Oh, and they defended tom so axe what I said about nikkinikki being the only defendant earlier. Replace it with 'only strong defendant'. Calling tom an 'obvious bored blue' doesn't hold water, unfortunately.
Crys
Getting out of the way that there's a wrong post they posted early on,
p)They haven't scumtold like I thought they had. Not all that active but push on Sonrio is on point. Null leaning town in this area. There being a lack of bad content here bodes badly for elise.
Sonrio>pillow>Audino is the primary lynch modus for today, if anyone wants to vote someone else they can bring it up and town as a whole can discuss it. Straggling votes do nothing and we need to axe down on them. I don't think the list of three I brought up is unfair, the only person I can conceivably see being a target out of this is Tom and like I said earlier; not feeling that right now.
I'm going to submit this post, turn around, and flop-face first into my nice fluffy bed. I may or may not be awake in time for day end. To compensate for the chance I'm not, I'm going to shoot a vote at Sonrio.
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Why in the name of everloving f..
Side note, lack of kills points to pillow being blocked as mafia. Other kill could've easily been ITYW if mafia perceived him as blue.
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He claimed egil years ago.hey sonrio u should claim sometime soon
Srs I'm going to bed now.
Ballsy would be me claiming to be a blue here Endless
Geoni
You're doing great!
What's with all these blue roles? I'm not sure I understand Crys' claim because I was given two shots, Endless (if I'm going to believe that claim) gets one shot, and Crys only gets one shot.
Are you guys able to brave/default? Because I don't think I was able to.
I'll say more later but I wanted to get that question out there.
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Like I guess if Crys can roleblock too that's a little more believable but Endless got three things.
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Oooh one shot as in one use. Crys can't nightkill just roleblock. Doh.
Are you guys able to brave/default? Because I don't think I was able to.
I'll say more later but I wanted to get that question out there.
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Like I guess if Crys can roleblock too that's a little more believable but Endless got three things.
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Oooh one shot as in one use. Crys can't nightkill just roleblock. Doh.
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
This would 100% explain no mafia kills on day one if pillow bunny would have sent in the kills. Not to mention pillow bunny endlessly pushing audino all game. I'm voting pillow bunny.
Geoni
You're doing great!
For me, the moment when pillow bunny swooped in with the critique on Audino's town claim with a link to a day post just reeeked of scum for me because this came off as such a polished post in the face of the rest of their less polished posts, and Endless is pointing out even more that confirms what I thought yesterday, and I'm very much on the same page as him. They've also gone quiet even though they've been decently consistent in their activity for most of the game. My lynch interest lies within Sonrio, pillow, and Tom, in that order. I still don't believe Tom had a difficult time with Flandit despite him telling me more than once that it took time for him, so him grabbing a random Olivia to claim isn't going to just clear him for me. At this point, the maf definitely seems to be within pillow/Sonrio/Tom/Blu/problem/Audino in order of suspicion. Everyone else I've townread at this point.
and tbt I'm imagining Sonrio in a quicktopic shouting in all caps as to how he can't believe he hasn't been lynched already
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Actually, I'd say my lynch interest is in pillow/Sonrio/Tom order.*
and tbt I'm imagining Sonrio in a quicktopic shouting in all caps as to how he can't believe he hasn't been lynched already
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Actually, I'd say my lynch interest is in pillow/Sonrio/Tom order.*
Ayy lmao I'll take last place in lynch order. And Olivia the townie has like no flair or style, it's very weak. Come on son, if I'm going to make a fake claim I'm going all in with style!
And Olivia the townie has like no flair or style, it's very weak. Come on son, if I'm going to make a fake claim I'm going all in with style!
Geoni
You're doing great!
Ayy lmao I'll take last place in lynch order.
This post reeks of bull****. Just saying. I can tell when you're lying and also when you're throwing somebody under the bus.
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Like it almost sounds like you've given up here.
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Or you're sounding like you've given up to purposefully give us doubts because Tom wouldn't be that obvious.
In the Opening Post, it says power roles get the choice to default or brave. They get "ONE action point every time the DEFAULT." They will also "be told how many actions they can use at once."
Can someone conclude my thought process here?
pillow bunny
Senior Member
umm why are people voting for me? brb reading the thread
