Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[Ryumia]

I'll be back later... I'm hungry. So... I'm going to eat then come back to this later. Mhm... :X I can't believe this...

 

[Heyden]

why the **** is that a BLUE role
thats a third party role/mafia tina, not a blue role lol

honestly i was half expecting this but how did punchy predict scumjoat? and why didn’t he just say what his role said

pretty pissed but whatever ill be back later, looking at a few ppl rn still in class

 

[Geoni]

You guys aren't going to believe me when I say this but I agree with glow. This was gamethrowing. What Punchy did severely handicapped town and just made this game much easier for mafia to win by voting for himself and not being completely forward in what would happen if he was lynched with the information he had. I should have trusted my gut on this because since day 1 I believed that Punchy was acting the way he was acting because he was a blue.

Also lets think before we get no-lynch happy because they'll just pick off the most universally townread people. That's what I would do in their position right now.

Going to look back on how people aligned with Punchy yet again but I am just on break. Bbl.

As much as I kind of geek out about how Tina put the Lightkeeper role in tbt somehow (changed to be unique however), it was most certainly in the wrong hands.

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well um
...
well let's just say I'm not going to be playing "much" mafia anymore
rip
bye
I tried

I mean, I'm trying not to be super hard on you because you are still relatively new to this and it's only lightly gamethrowy since this doesn't automatically make us lose, but just learn from this and move on.

 

[cornimer]

You guys aren't going to believe me when I say this but I agree with glow.

*loud gasp*

 

[cornimer]

Imma try to finish my Dad/Glow ISO before I go to sleep so I can actually do schoolwork tomorrow lol

Lol I got nowhere

 

[glow]

You guys aren't going to believe me when I say this but I agree with glow. This was gamethrowing. What Punchy did severely handicapped town and just made this game much easier for mafia to win by voting for himself and not being completely forward in what would happen if he was lynched with the information he had. I should have trusted my gut on this because since day 1 I believed that Punchy was acting the way he was acting because he was a blue.

Also lets think before we get no-lynch happy because they'll just pick off the most universally townread people. That's what I would do in their position right now.

Going to look back on how people aligned with Punchy yet again but I am just on break. Bbl.

As much as I kind of geek out about how Tina put the Lightkeeper role in tbt somehow (changed to be unique however), it was most certainly in the wrong hands.

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I mean, I'm trying not to be super hard on you because you are still relatively new to this and it's only lightly gamethrowy since this doesn't automatically make us lose, but just learn from this and move on.

lightkeeper

do you play EM

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Alright everyone now read the responses to my last post and there is some free "omg I'm town and I don't wanna surrender!" scum in there

o **** waddup

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how could someone have a role that says this:

"Luckily, your paranoia means you?ve always got one eye open. It will take two shots to knock you out before this town suffers the consequence of your death. However, if you are lynched then it will be Hell on Maresalis Island.

Do. Not. Die."

and then decide to claim for no reason, vaguely, and drop random hints of the role in various places, lie about various aspects of the role, go along with people calling you scum, the list goes on

why punchy. just why

ALSO HE SAID HIS ROLE MENTIONED LOVERS WHAT THE ACTUAL ****

 

[amanda1983]

lightkeeper

do you play EM

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o **** waddup

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ALSO HE SAID HIS ROLE MENTIONED LOVERS WHAT THE ACTUAL ****

I was wondering about that, but I think he might have gotten that from the reference to his lover at the start of the role pm.

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Brian the Lighthouse Keeper (Time Bomb/Veteran)

Your lover, an English sailor, was on board the first boat that left Port Anne that fateful March morning. But much like Caliope Black of legend, your love is forbidden, and as everyone else embraced their loved ones you stood barefoot in the sand and tried your best to hold back the tears.

If you cannot see Jack again then no one else will be able to see their loved ones either. When you die you will cut the cords to the lighthouse. The ghosts will begin to arrive en masse and the town?s chances of winning will be greatly reduced.

Luckily, your paranoia means you?ve always got one eye open. It will take two shots to knock you out before this town suffers the consequence of your death. However, if you are lynched then it will be Hell on Maresalis Island.

Do. Not. Die.

Punchy's full role pm.

Also, I think I just realised why this role included veteran, too, which had been hurting my head trying to understand - it was supposed to provide whomever got the role with some options on how to play things. It's a shame how things played out, but I don't think the role is quite as unbalanced as I thought it was at first. It's still the most bonkers Blue role I've ever seen, but it doesn't look like it would always be game-breaking. I think.

 

[Antonio]

I still haven't got everyone's opinion on fireninha.

 

[Ryumia]

I was wondering about that, but I think he might have gotten that from the reference to his lover at the start of the role pm.

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Punchy's full role pm.

Also, I think I just realised why this role included veteran, too, which had been hurting my head trying to understand - it was supposed to provide whomever got the role with some options on how to play things. It's a shame how things played out, but I don't think the role is quite as unbalanced as I thought it was at first. It's still the most bonkers Blue role I've ever seen, but it doesn't look like it would always be game-breaking. I think.

Mhm... I see. Thanks for your input, Amanda.

 

[amanda1983]

EBWOP : I should add that I would have been confused af as to what the role even did, too. I don't blame Punchy at all for not understanding it considering the uniqueness of the role combined with the flavour text.

 

[cornimer]

Tbh, I have a lot to do tomorrow, and I can't afford to be distracted by this ISO, so I'm just gonna post what I did so far. If anyone wants to pick up where I left off (somewhere around post #700 or so?) that would be great, if not maybe I'll finish it Thursday or something.
So, without further ado...

Beginnings of a Dad ISO ft. special recurring guest star glow
-First two ?google doc? posts ? I really don?t know what to comment on? As other people said there really aren?t any stances, just summarizing what happened in the thread.

Spoiler: First scumread: Ness

Let me get my suspect pool out and clarified. I will begin with Ness since he is the one I would like to vote for at the moment.

Ness
[*]I still don't like his quick thoughts he had when he was on mobile because they gave me the impression of him trying to get his thoughts out in the open to appear pro-town when in past games he has been unapologetic about that. I also feel like this specific quick thought was odd because it seemed to imply a connection between Tom and Punchy in that their using the same memetic joke was a teammate slip? He used the word funny here, not suspicious, but from what I can tell that is what he means.

[*]His stances on Punchy have been odd all game. First with that thing in the quote above, then the longer post that Dolby recently broke down, unlike Toads whose pushiness was for reaction, Ness' pushiness in that aforementioned post seemed to either try and paint Punchy as sus or keep attention on Punchy's behavior because he knows it is setting up a mislynch for somebody involved. And the source of the long argument with Toads was Toads wanting Ness to clarify what he was getting at in his reads of Punchy beyond showing the foolishness of his play.
[*]This post:
*quote by Ness*
Not only is that not characteristic of Ness, but he seemed to be eager to get out some quick thoughts early on in the game and felt the need to mention he was on mobile which suggests he was conscious about anyone finding concern with his posts not being in-depth. Also, those townleans are obvious and easy to read into for the most part.
[*]Some smaller points: I don't like the emotion because that argument didn't seem to be the type of thing to break him if he were town because the only time I have seen him get emotional iirc was in BotW when he led a mislynch against Evan who had a power role, and that was a matter of guilt and being wrong, this is a matter of him being called out for clarification of intention. I also don't like how he went after Mog early in the day for worrying somebody will use the beginning of game jokevoting as a means for reverse psychology because that is a valid worry. Not only that, but if you want to suspect somebody over having left-field theories, don't ponder distracting thoughts like FireNinja doing what he was doing because he was reaction testing or more recently suggesting it is a jester gambit. That being said, the jester gambit is less left-field, but the timing was still bad since more people had expressed seeing FN as a potential lynch candidate.

The rest of the pool: katezilla, Ryumia, FireNinja, Evan (very much depending on what FN is), and Oath/Tom if only because people will give them a pass D1 for lackluster activity because it is what they are known for. Tablet is low af on power though and I already accidentally lost some of this stuff once.

Aside from the point about Punchy I just don?t like his case on Ness. It feels like was looking too hard for things that were wrong with him. Like sussing him for specific things he said while on mobile is just a bit weak imo.

Spoiler: Calling out Tom

And no, Tom, you don't deserve a free pass through day 1 and night 1 just because you're known for being quiet day 1. I'm pretty sure it stemmed from you being N0'd and N1'd very often but...lol, that clearly isn't gonna happen these days with the level of substance you provide as a result of your playstyle change. Therefore you have no valid reason to stick to that playstyle change. So yeah, who do you scumread?
Also using the kills as information is only a fraction of what scumhunting is about and you're also using that as a reason to skate by all the time D1 without having to look at the whole picture.

I'd say we should stage an intervention to just policy lynch you and Oath whenever you rest on your blindly accepted laziness meta until you change your ways but the two of you rarely seem to play. Kayla probably wouldn't believe it when I say this but if she wants to lynch people who coast you two should be the ones to consider because we can be certain it doesn't have to do with being new to the game.

Alright, that concludes the anti-Tom rant.

This is post #388 in the thread. Pretty early to start bussing if they?re on a team.

Spoiler: Ok now we?re bringing glow into this

dad, in a game half full of brand new and newer players: "i'm an easy target"

(besides isn't Ness an easier target than 2/3 of my reads.......or katezilla)

oath/dedenne maybe easy targets i guess?? i mean as scum its a lot easier to just pick up traction for a lynch that's already been pushed (Ness, punchy, fire, Antonio, etc). i think the only sr I've shared with a couple people is oath. but oaths content is objectively bad

i will say i find it odd that you immediately compare me to my scumreads, i mean i believe my content has been nothing like theirs though i have no ambition to impress anyone. i would rather you just admit to you forcing your own underdeveloped reads out than you trying to speculate about reads i haven't even explained.

below isn't really to u, dad, but i'm too lazy to make a separate post and it's somewhat relevant so

i very much dislike how dedenne feels the need to constantly say "guys i'm posting my reads soon don't sus me" (they've done it 2-3 times) and in their first couple posts dedenne said something like "omg everything in my notes has been discussed! guess i will wait til d2 to post reads"

why not just say what you've agreed or disagreed with so far. constant excuses for small things read v paranoid.

Also given what's on the table you going after Dedenne feels deliberately like you're going after a weak player who has promised activity but lacked it. What makes her different than others in the game who have done the same?

I agree with Dad here, and it especially looks bad bc Dedenne flipped town.

Spoiler: glow part 2

oath pulled the meta card the second he was accused of non contribution and there's really only two scenarios where that fits

So has Tom but you straight up exclude him if that's your reason. Again, Oath is an easy target and your response here makes me feel more certain about that. Why you don't suspect Tom for the same reason is curious.

tom's input and tone are completely different to oath's. oath's tone is hesitant and careful, he's all "idk guys i might be crazy here don't mind me!!" while tom just genuinely does not care about towntelling. i feel like you're comparing them because they're low activity posters but i actually don't read into that as much as i do tone.

1) You seem to be excusing yourself from suspecting Tom based on tone. Yes, Tom seems to not care more, but both Tom and Oath are both very inactive and lacking in contribution but what they share in common in tone is that they rest easy on how a lot of people are not considering them as lynch candidates over their lack of contribution because of meta they are known to have for some of us who played with them in more recent years. Can you point out hesitation from Oath specifically? And are you just going to ignore that Tom was possibly trying to buddy up with me in regards to Ness? Because he did not give much reason as to why he was wanting to follow me on a Ness lynch.

Also agree with Dad here. Points to Dad for calling out Tom once again, minus points from glow for not even mentioning him at first and then defending him. Also I missed this before but Tom apparently trying to ?buddy? with Dad for a Ness lynch makes me think even more that Ness is town.

Spoiler: glow part 3

do u know how bad it looks fmpov that you now sus me because i'm "going after easy targets" when you were clearly going after the emotionally heated ness and only changed your target after i continually pushed you.

I agree with glow on this point however, and yes Dad I see that you already defended yourself on it.

Spoiler: Dad Is Mad

Ya'll can laugh at me for crying about how nobody is listening to me but I feel like I spent my precious free post-work hours interacting with glow to develop my reads on her, I think I got some pretty manipulative answers out of it which are masked in assertiveness that she is known for, and nobody even provided much of a read on her except Dolby.

I'm going to try my best not to tunnel, but I am hella gonna have to blow this up a bit more, because glow set this lynch on the table and it seemed to steer the direction of the lynch towards what, again, was a weak target. AND GLOW DIDN'T EVEN VOTE. WHY? IS? NOBODY? READING? GLOW? She clearly could have voted.

Anyways, gotta do some patrolling at work, just wanted to get that off my chest real quick. [/QUOTE]

The frustration in this post strikes me as towny for some reason.

Spoiler: On Mog

Looking back at Mog and I am starting to townread her a little less. Not a scumread just yet but I don't like how she was suddenly active near the end of day when a convenient lynch was on the table. Out of the people who voted Dedenne she bothers me the most but also I recall her being kinda coasty when killing TP in RHOM.

Just kinda leaving this here since I feel like more ppl are gonna investigate mog/Karen now

Spoiler: On Dolby

2) Mafia wants to bring attention to me vs glow and glow vs Oath. My concern with Oath's kill over somebody like Dolby/myself/glow/Ness is that one of us will lead wrongly based on the choice. This could be mafia glow making herself seem less scummy because why would she kill somebody she scumread to flip them as important? This could be another crafty player on the mafia team in a game where both myself and glow aren't mafia leaving me alive to rail against glow, especially given another leading type like Dolby also has aired that he finds glow sus.

The thing I don't like about how Dolby has aired some sus of glow is that he hasn't really talked about it much. He just continues to say 'I side with Dad more on this situation and that is why I also townread Dad'. For one, this can be buddying. And two, this is him stepping back to let me do the work on a mislynch without actually rationalizing why he agrees with my reads. I have gone over a lot of different points regarding glow and there is a lot to agree and disagree with when it comes to that and I just don't see Dolby as the type to agree with all of it.

Also Dolby can fit into either of these scenarios.

Buuut if glow is mafia and Kayla is playing a crafty return to mafia, this could be some soft defending but idk. Because if glow is scum I kinda see Tom as a potential partner but this also doesn't seem like a Kayla and Tom team so the alignments here are wonky.

Anyways I still haven't caught up in the last two pages but I wanted to immediately respond to this.

Yeah so far in the last few pages where this is being discussed I am seeing Heyden as coming very out of nowhere with the interest to lynch Dolby. As for my feelings on the matter, I know better than to read Dolby's meta to make the determination, he knows how to cover his own meta and that's why I still have a lot to read into before I'd be on board with that because glow is still pretty sus too. Tom as well.

Note that he airs sus of Dolby but doesn?t take the opportunity to jump on the wagon and save Tom.

Hopefully there's something helpful in what I did so far? There was more about Punchy but it's irrelevant now

 

[amanda1983]

I still haven't got everyone's opinion on fireninha.

I haven't really noticed them, the only things I remember are a) some weird not-a-meme post of "F" a bit ago that didn't give any info or stance at all (expressing WTF doesn't count in those circumstances), and b) initial D1 vote on Punchy and refusal to explain etc etc.

 

[N e s s]

I'm going to be called a hypocrite for this but I personally believe that the mafia can probably be found in the people who were too scared to join the Punchy lynch while those who either A) Felt confident nothing would happen if Punchy was lynched, or B) Were incredibly confident that Punchy was scum. I don't want to say who I think is confirmed town yet as I don't want to endanger these people.

I'm in no mood to be posting some gigantic thing about people in the game, but based off of my general notes and impressions I'm near certain that 1 mafia is within this group:

iLoveYou, KermitTea, glow, Ryumia, Vampnessa, Kammm

I'll be reading into these players tomorrow and I'll pick off who I think would be least likely to be mafia and those who I think are most likely to be mafia.

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EBWOP: In part that begins with A and B possibilities, I'm referring to that I think town players would be the ones who did that.

 

[amazonevan19]

Working on my ghostkid ISO...I found this beautiful whopper of a post from Punchy

tbh I'm fine with my lynch if it gets FN killed

:epic nuclear facepalm:

If anyone doubts that the lightkeeper role ended up in the wrong hands……………

 

[N e s s]

extra EBWOP: There are more people I'm vry sus of but I don't want to feed mafia too much to work with right now

 

[Kamzitty]

Lmao punchy turned out to be telling the truth.. I would be surprised but honestly nothing is shocking to me atm since my bf of 2 years broke up with me a few hours ago. :')
Sorry guys I'll try to be active but I'm feeling really emotionally drained rn and might not be able to contribute until tomorrow if I'm feeling better..

 

[Ryumia]

Lmao punchy turned out to be telling the truth.. I would be surprised but honestly nothing is shocking to me atm since my bf of 2 years broke up with me a few hours ago. :')
Sorry guys I'll try to be active but I'm feeling really emotionally drained rn and might not be able to contribute until tomorrow if I'm feeling better..

Aww... Hope you feel better soon, Kammm.

 

[Geoni]

How do I know you're not buddying me so far with this, Vanessa?

 

[iLoveYou]

I'm going to be called a hypocrite for this but I personally believe that the mafia can probably be found in the people who were too scared to join the Punchy lynch while those who either A) Felt confident nothing would happen if Punchy was lynched, or B) Were incredibly confident that Punchy was scum. I don't want to say who I think is confirmed town yet as I don't want to endanger these people.

I'm in no mood to be posting some gigantic thing about people in the game, but based off of my general notes and impressions I'm near certain that 1 mafia is within this group:

iLoveYou, KermitTea, glow, Ryumia, Vampnessa, Kammm

I'll be reading into these players tomorrow and I'll pick off who I think would be least likely to be mafia and those who I think are most likely to be mafia.

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EBWOP: In part that begins with A and B possibilities, I'm referring to that I think town players would be the ones who did that.

Uhm, can you blame us ? It was Penchy who mentioned something about a bomb and if he was mafia, worst case scenario was that it was going to kill Town players allowing the mafia team to win.

By the way, I don't think you should completely disregard the players who actually voted for Panchy because the mafia obviously knew he was BS'ing more than we did. Making it easier for them to actually vote him and encourage a mislynch.

Also, try to refrain from posting just a few names because it will help the mafia decide who is the most likely to get a mislynch on so they will most likely purposely be left alive in the game.

 

[KermitTea]

yes.