Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[Ghostkid]

take this on ur way out!
*Throws https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAmegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3kTlnzXrmHHAqP6IHLp8Zx *
But i see ur point poth most of it tho lol

 

[amazonevan19]

Reading over Vanessa's mini Dad/Glow ISO special, it did strike me how dad was so damn spot-on in his interaction with glow about Tom, and glow was so wrong. Though both were wrong in sussing Oath, something definitely smells fishy about what glow said about Tom.

sure I also said Tom is usually inactive day 1 and wanted to see more from him, but there's a difference between "Tom may be scum, but let's wait for contributions" vs. "I think Tom may be town based on meta/tone"

For someone who's usually ultra perceptive, idk why glow didn't catch on to Tom

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take this on ur way out!
*Throws https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAmegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3kTlnzXrmHHAqP6IHLp8Zx *
But i see ur point poth most of it tho lol

haha thanks.

Last thing before I stop mafiaing: if you say you see my points, then you're basically saying you've been kinda fishy, right?

 

[Ghostkid]

Reading over Vanessa's mini Dad/Glow ISO special, it did strike me how dad was so damn spot-on in his interaction with glow about Tom, and glow was so wrong. Though both were wrong in sussing Oath, something definitely smells fishy about what glow said about Tom.

sure I also said Tom is usually inactive day 1 and wanted to see more from him, but there's a difference between "Tom may be scum, but let's wait for contributions" vs. "I think Tom may be town based on meta/tone"

For someone who's usually ultra perceptive, idk why glow didn't catch on to Tom

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haha thanks.

Last thing before I stop mafiaing: if you say you see my points, then you're basically saying you've been kinda fishy, right?

Im agreeing that i LOOK fishy...but usually with a conversation im allover the place in a way tho mafia is like a HUGE conversation. Im just the antisocial person with ASD that agrees with people and acts nervous all the time because he is actually confused in what everyone is talking abot

 

[amazonevan19]

Im agreeing that i LOOK fishy...but usually with a conversation im allover the place in a way tho mafia is like a HUGE conversation. Im just the antisocial person with ASD that agrees with people and acts nervous all the time because he is actually confused in what everyone is talking abot

/r/WholesomeMafiaPosts

 

[glow]

Reading over Vanessa's mini Dad/Glow ISO special, it did strike me how dad was so damn spot-on in his interaction with glow about Tom, and glow was so wrong. Though both were wrong in sussing Oath, something definitely smells fishy about what glow said about Tom.

sure I also said Tom is usually inactive day 1 and wanted to see more from him, but there's a difference between "Tom may be scum, but let's wait for contributions" vs. "I think Tom may be town based on meta/tone"

For someone who's usually ultra perceptive, idk why glow didn't catch on to Tom

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haha thanks.

Last thing before I stop mafiaing: if you say you see my points, then you're basically saying you've been kinda fishy, right?

i didn't use meta, i've been trying to avoid using meta

he seemed like he didn't care about being sus'd or the game in general which i read as nonchalant town. he didn't really have any sense of self preservation

 

[Geoni]

Personally my thought process here is that I don't think that any mafia would be so willing to hand themselves out to a lynch like that. Everyone was paranoid for a while about the lynch and that it would kill someone if they voted it; mafia obviously don't want that. I agree with you that there more than likely is a player on the punchy wagon that is scum, but more like they would be somewhere within the middle of the wagon.

...I'm pretty confident that if there are mafia in the self-voters it is because mafia wanted to utilize a mutually agreed upon paranoia to avoid looking bad for lynching somebody they knew wasn't mafia. Not because mafia was also illogically worried about such an OP role in the game. From their perspective it would have to be some third party with that kind of power if they were also paranoid but I doubt they were tbh. And yeah I do think there could be one within the self-voters as well. Again, mixed bag.

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did u actually play epic mafia

I do. That lightkeeper > this one tbh.

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Im agreeing that i LOOK fishy...but usually with a conversation im allover the place in a way tho mafia is like a HUGE conversation. Im just the antisocial person with ASD that agrees with people and acts nervous all the time because he is actually confused in what everyone is talking abot

Personally I would rather see you constantly asking people for clarification on things rather than constantly post that you will be doing this or that and will be away from the thread. Regardless of any of what you just brought up, that impulse to constantly do that does come off as you being nervous for lacking content or being seen as inactive.

This is what led to you getting somebody to look into your content and point out some of the reads that were weak and stances that were somewhat suspect. So if anything I would like you to act more honestly and, again, bring up things you need clarified. I won't be annoyed and I'm sure most of the game wouldn't be either.

Rune and Evan stop one-upping my wallpost game. I don't have the same energy to rival it after those first few days. I'm getting old.

 

[Ghostkid]

Tbh i think most of the confusion is skiming over posts instead of giving them a full depth read.

 

[glow]

I do. That lightkeeper > this one tbh.

what's your EM user

Personally I would rather see you constantly asking people for clarification on things rather than constantly post that you will be doing this or that and will be away from the thread. Regardless of any of what you just brought up, that impulse to constantly do that does come off as you being nervous for lacking content or being seen as inactive.

EXCUSE U this is the exact same thing I said about dedenne and you crucified me for it

 

[Geoni]

Notice how I'm not saying he's the one who should be lynched though.

 

[Heyden]

Ok finally home. I don't really blame anyone for the lynch, Punchy undid himself but as bad as he did to explain his role and defend himself, I don't think he would've gotten passed through the fact he 'knew' there was a scum JoaT and their abilities.

Don't wanna say too much except Kermit is obvious scum at this point and I'll be awaiting her ~blue claim~ at the start of D4, so hurry up scum, think of a legible blue claim!!!!

 

[Geoni]

hjg

I want to help out in my own way not some "status quo method" to play a certain role in this game. I am not an artificial intelligence. I am an actual human being that has actual feelings and opinions. My own terms? It's like I stated before: "I want to help out in my own way not some "status quo method" to play a certain role in this game". I play cautiously when I play mafia because it can be difficult to see between the truth and the lies. I don't play like everyone else in the game and only just playing like myself. That's all.

Rereading the thread and this is iconic. Quotable.

 

[Heyden]

Dad what are your thoughts on Kermit rn?

 

[Geoni]

catching up, vanessa pointing out punchy's "we have 3 kp" to be some sort of scum slip REALLLLLY didn't sit well with me

are we still lynching him or what? If he did indeed get hit then we are back to the drawing board I guess, but I don't see a way to prove it...

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like it was pretty obvious punchy was just using "we" to refer to the situation of having 3kp, not his team/side. for all I know he could still be scum, but Vanessa using that to try and twist it on punchy was a pretty big stretch and worthy of note. Opportunistic af

btw how do you feel about Vanessa now Evan? Looking back on this I'd expect you to look back on this pretty harshly but you spent a ton of time on a GhostKid iso instead.

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Dad what are your thoughts on Kermit rn?

I shared a few a couple of pages ago in regards to her activity during D3 but as for what she is doing right now? Could be acting like she's baiting in order to continue not saying much or distract doctor from saving more important kills.

I would give her the benefit of being a vanilla townie trying to bait mafia and she wasn't lying when she was throwing down the silly sacrificial lamb vote during D3 but there needs to be more towntelling than acting sacrificial and I have seen none of it so far.

Or she's a stupid blue. We've already had a couple this game.

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Except how do we decide who to sacrifice and vote Punchy? We could be putting blues in danger

btw if you were really buying into this paranoia at the time, why would you want to sacrifice any town, not just blues?

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I don't really like the idea of sacrificing cuz it'll let mafia bluesnipe for daysssssssss

and yet it's also good to play it safe in case punchy is some insanely OP bomb

ugh tough choices

Weren't you criticizing Vanessa for being opportunistic a couple of pages before this post? Because this post seems to be on board with the Punchy lynch.

 

[Geoni]

Well... I'm just feeling the paranoia of the game. That was all when I mention that.

This was in response to her wondering if Kammm could be scum. Stands out as a really weird reason. I'd like for Ryumia to explain it if she hasn't already and I happened to skim over it because this is not a valid excuse for picking a specific person to suspect.

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last post before bedtime, two things

(1) TINA OPEN THE VOTING THREAD PLEASE

(2) as much as the punchy discussion is beneficial, I think we should also spend some time this day phase focusing on the next lynch targets after this. Punchy is 97% likely to flip scum and we need to not forget that there's probably two(+?) more teammates of his running around still. And as my last rushed reads illustrates, I'm having a hard time figuring out who the last two (or three) could be

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As fearful as we are about lynching punchy, I think there is no way we should NOT lynch him. He's the center of a raging ****storm and his continued presence will only be a nagging issue as we keep going forward

Was it this? My problem here, Evan, is that you have played enough games with new players to know that they cause ****storms but said ****storms are often taken advantage of in order to lynch them, and you seemed to wonder that this is what Vanessa was doing. What made you 97% sure? I was feeling the same way tbh but I'd still like to know why you came to that conclusion.

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I'm dying bc of all the punchy typos that made my day
My top choice for lunch other than punchy would be glow because of the reasons I stated yesterday

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*for lynch not lunch omk bye

hmmm I wonder why she is ISOing me? I wonder who she will side with by the end of the ISO...

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loling at page 216 when people jumped on me for the post about Kayla when I wasn't caught up yet because I wasn't intending on it to be so sloppy but it indeed did if just because I wasn't talking about Punchy

Some interesting reactions in there.

 

[Geoni]

He's been freaking out the majority of the game. I think he is scum as well and is willing to sacrifice myself in the name of the greater good.

seems like a sudden turn after this post (only a few posts beforehand) to suddenly be on board:

"Punchy was super suspicious last game and we lynched him and it he was town. What are the claims for puncy rn beside the playing innocent git-up."

Why were you so quick to jump on board after one line of convincing from another player Antonio?

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WAIT !!!!

why is everyone going crazy.... i don't wanna rush and have all of us die ! lets just collect ourselves for a moment... we still have over 24 hours left of D3 and i still think we should place our votes on Punchy very carefully, seeing as he may be able to impose a lot of damage to us.

The paranoia, not that actual content, seems to be the only thing you are addressing so far in this D3 reread of mine.

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The thing is we know Antonio is not a blue (since he didn't know what a blue was)

tbh I forgot about this but I could see myself remembering something like that if I were mafia since sniffing out the blues is so important

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Also right off the bat that kinda towntells FireNinja for me. Will explain why later if it isn't obvious.

I take this back of course. Need to not forget that FireNinja still exists in this game. Out of all the people in the game I've forgotten about FireNinja and Kammm the most I've realized and that is a red flag for me, especially for someone who was a lot more active D1 when lynches were less certain.

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I can see that point about the nightkilling. That being said, with the Tom and Punchy lynches, they're so easy to sheep and get away with it because Tom was universally suspected and Punchy admitted to being scum apparently. That means five days of getting away with sheeping and people not batting an eye at it. And I need that to be kept in mind moving forward.

Anyways, thanks to that google doc I made and kept up with earlier in the game, I have people who took different positions on Punchy vs FireNinja noted. Only mentioning the living ones of course.

Defended Punchy in some capacity:

-Mogyay defended the idea that Punchy's playstyle could change
-Rune was defensive of Punchy if just because he didn't like Toads early on but I still tr Rune so w/e

Didn't defend Punchy but were against FN during that situation:

-Heyden
-Locket
-Evan

Suspected Punchy in some capacity:

-FireNinja
-Trundle suspected both Tom and Trundle as his first suspects
-Ness was kiiinda wishywashy about Punchy but there was more incidents of him calling Punchy out than defending him.

Nulls or highly mixed feelings on Punchy:

-Antonio nullread him
-I was more on Punchy's side in the beginning because I thought he was a blue but on this day I have felt less sure about it due to how many blues have flipped

Need to read back on Panda and Ryumia still but I don't think they took a stance there? Don't recall Kayla, glow, or Gig ever taking any stances on it. Not in my notes anyhow.

I still have a lot of catching up to do but I felt like listing these stances from 1 because I think that is an important day to look back upon in situations like these.

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Of the people I just listed I am probably going to move forward considering that alongside glow, 2 out of these 5 could be in the mafia team: mog (Kermit), Evan, Locket (Vanessa), Antonio, and Heyden. Need to look back on how they interacted with Tom, Punchy, and glow though.

Worth just...quoting so we don't forget what people's day 1 stances on Punchy were.

 

[Geoni]

@Rune i kinda like the idea of making reads and then everyone posting them at the start of D4, i agree posting them during Night Phases helps mafia strategize kills and the less they know the before while they are trying to determine all that. posting the reads at the start of the Day phase would allow us ample time for discussion and debate.

The last thing I quoted was also you just trying to seem helpful without taking stances.

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To be honest, yes. I'm leaning towards Amanda/Gig because of what happened during the Day One voting where Gig jumped on the Antonio bandwagon.

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Hopefully I got the replacement riht this time. Pretty much I am leaning Gigalabesh as a scum read.

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Also something else I want to add is that Giggs stayed quielty active on the thread until after the voting results post were made.

Is it fair to judge Amanda by [/b]Gig's[/b] actions ? I don't know. But at the end of the day they have he same role ?

Forgot to really say this but yes it is fair. Reads on people are an accumulative process and I think this is something fair to note if we find out what Antonio is. We should also consider what Locket and Mog posted in regards to reading their respective replacements.

 

[Heyden]

Would lynching a third party count towards the '2 mislynches'?

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oh put that in green sorry

 

[Geoni]

if i was mafia why would you be alive over Dolby

You've sure asked a lot of 'if I was mafia' questions. You not voting D1, the Dolby kill theory post, this post. ijs

But also...why wouldn't I be alive over Dolby if you were mafia, if you're willing to entertain the question.

 

[Heyden]

Ugh I have to delete so much of my Dad/Glow ISO now bc it was centered around punchy being scum

proof or I'm lynching you

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u know I had a random thought I miss playing with crys

 

[Chris]

Would lynching a third party count towards the '2 mislynches'?

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oh put that in green sorry

I cannot answer this.