Can we talk about Dueping on here?

[nintendofan61]

Why don't we all just calm down. Everyone perceives the idea of the duplication of items differently. Lets play OUR games the way WE want too. After all, it is OUR money right? Lets just have fun with the game.

 

[Garrett x50 cal]

At least Divo knows the truth on the pricing matter.

 

[Divo]

Why don't we all just calm down. Everyone perceives the idea of the duplication of items differently. Lets play OUR games the way WE want too. After all, it is OUR money right? Lets just have fun with the game.

I wish it could be this way. This is, essentially, what I'm advocating.

If you want to play your game "legitimately", fine. I find such a standard ridiculous, but it's your game. Shoot for the stars cowboy.


The problem is there are these elitist snobs running about the place, who see fit to attack and shame others for not playing the way they play the game, and it has gone so far as to ban discussion of methods of playing alternative to their inane standards (i.e., duping).

So until this ban is lifted, we can't have the type of forum you wish to be a part of.

 

[Garrett x50 cal]

Why don't we all just calm down. Everyone perceives the idea of the duplication of items differently. Lets play OUR games the way WE want too. After all, it is OUR money right? Lets just have fun with the game.

There's always THAT guy when people on the internet have a debate, discussion, argument, w/e trying to end thoughts, ideas and opinions from being exchanged...

 

[nintendofan61]

So until this ban is lifted, we can't have the type of forum you wish to be a part of.

I'm confused by this. You mean the type of forum I "wish to be part of" is one without arguments?

 

[Divo]

I'm confused by this. You mean the type of forum I "wish to be part of" is one without arguments?

The kind of forum where people "live and let live". Where dupers and nondupers can commune with one another, without feeling lesser than the other or harassed by the other. Where people can simply enjoy their games however they see fit.

That is how I perceived what you wanted, based on your post. Is this not so?


If it is, this is precisely why I am arguing right now. Because currently, rules banning the discussion of duplicating don't allow for such an environment, and therefore it is imperative we stand up against such bullying.

 

[nintendofan61]

That is how I perceived what you wanted, based on your post. Is this not so?

Yes, that is what I was saying.

 

[Divo]

Yes, that is what I was saying.

Good.

Enter my response for why we must argue for the lift on the duping ban, in order to have such a forum.

 

[Zhados]

I had no idea this threat would go haywire and turn into... this.
Although my ideas of how to enjoy this game differ I have no problems with other people enjoying their games the way they want to, I just wanted to express my personal preference towards duping; I don't think I am morally superior to anyone for playing my game my own way.

 

[Byngo]

The kind of forum where people "live and let live". Where dupers and nondupers can commune with one another, without feeling lesser than the other or harassed by the other. Where people can simply enjoy their games however they see fit.

Even if the ban is lifted, there will still be both non-duper and dupers that will continue to criticize and look down upon the way other people play. That's almost inevitable...

I'm not against your opinions in any way, but I see the ban being lifted possibly causing mass chaos/flame wars, because this and TT seem to be extremely touchy subjects. Every TT thread I see ultimately boils down to **** throwing contests. Sad that this is the case, but it really can't be helped.

 

[nintendofan61]

Maybe a mod can clear some things up... Lol

 

[Garrett x50 cal]

Even if the ban is lifted, there will still be both non-duper and dupers that will continue to criticize and look down upon the other way people play. That's almost inevitable...

I'm not against your opinions in any way, but I see the ban being lifted possibly causing mass chaos/flame wars, because this and TT seem to be extremely touchy subjects. Every TT thread I see ultimately boils down to **** throwing contests. Sad that this is the case, but it really can't be helped.

But of course. However it would be nice to have the option available.

It's sort of like segregation in America (only MUCH, MUCH lesser important) allowing blacks to go to white schools is a great idea - but racists will still be there.

 

[Divo]

Even if the ban is lifted, there will still be both non-duper and dupers that will continue to criticize and look down upon the way other people play. That's almost inevitable...

I'm not against your opinions in any way, but I see the ban being lifted possibly causing mass chaos/flame wars, because this and TT seem to be extremely touchy subjects. Every TT thread I see ultimately boils down to **** throwing contests. Sad that this is the case, but it really can't be helped.

Things always have to get worse before they get better. I have no doubt people will start going at each other's throats over this issue if the ban is lifted.

We simply tell those people that's not okay, and if they don't stop, punish them, like you would any other flamer. Over time, people will stop the nonsense. Generally speaking. You can never 100% weed out bad behavior.

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But of course. However it would be nice to have the option available.

It's sort of like segregation in America (only MUCH, MUCH lesser important) allowing blacks to go to white schools is a great idea - but racists will still be there.

Indeed, it pretty much is exactly like this. Of course some people will get their panties in a knot. We simply tell them why they shouldn't act that way, and if they refuse, bring out the banhammer.

 

[AndyB]

It's already been addressed by Jeremy, but for those that missed it here:

The reason we've made a policy against duplicating items is because of the overall impact it has on the AC community. I normally don't like rules like this, but we've seen it happen with both Wild World and City Folk. Animal Crossing is a game structured around a virtual economy. When the economy dies, the game dies along with it for many players. And even if a user personally refuses to duplicate items, they are still affected by the online economy. We'd like to avoid this as much as possible, which is why we don't allow it.

That being said, we are not witch hunters and we understand that duping will happen despite the policy. This is why we do not respond to baseless accusations of duplicating, but would rather let the Wi-Fi Feedback ratings deal with it. However, we will lock any public discussions or admissions of duplicating items when it pertains to trading items, finding duping partners, etc.

Duplicating items is in fact cheating because it's done by exploiting a game glitch. Whether you cheat in a videogame or not is your own decision, but we don't want the cheating of one user to indirectly affect another user's gameplay. Online games ban online cheating, so it shouldn't be too shocking to hear that The Bell Tree and other AC sites don't allow it either. Time traveling, on the other hand, is not cheating and the difference between the two may help you understand the policy. One is done by exploiting a game glitch, the other is an intentional feature.

To sum it up, we don't care how you choose to play the game, but we hope you will not do anything that will ruin the experience for others.

This has gotten far too silly, to the point where it's bringing in topics that don't even add up.
Were it allowed, it goes to almost encourage it. We're not stupid here, it's going to happen regardless of if we allow it or not.