collectible tier list ★ (now closed)

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Yay kai!! Spreadsheets looks super nice


This is a kind of interesting point!! I actually kind of have an idea?


For Everyone--

Are many people opposed to tweaking the focus of the list from "Rarely Sold/Commonly Sold" to "Extremely Difficult to Aquire/Easy to Acquire"?

I think a biggg misconception is that this list is constructed from collectible prices, but the rarity of a collectible is determined by how much it costs ON TOP OF how often it is sold, how many people are going after the same collectible, etc. Essentially we're defining how easy and hard it is to get a hold of these collectibles. I think changing how the tiers are defined will be much more clear for everyone?? Open to thoughts

edit- this could also account for some collectibles that are extremely hard to acquire in their original events

that might work, i pretty much just copied and pasted from the thread to get this running as quick as possible

can ya make this an excel spreadsheet dl or something as well?

I legit can't stand google docs

you should be able to save it as an excel sheet, file > download
 
This is a great idea and definitely needed, but should the tier list be based off recent sales, when rarity/demand are not taken into account? Some collectibles are rarely ever sold (i.e. loveball) but I'm pretty sure a majority can agree that it would sell for at least 10k. Would it also be possible to move collectibles within its current tier? Mori and Dark Blue House should be kept at the bottom of tier 3 (or even lowered to tier 4). I also noticed that sellers have a tendency to price a collectible just based on where they see it in a tier so it may help to just have a complete overhaul of the tier list. For example, I think that hot feather sells for around 2.2k with the cool feather selling for significantly less at 1.6k despite being more sought after/rarer only. This is the main problem with the current tier list because if someone decided to list a cool feather for 2.2k before today, nobody would buy it due to seeing its current standing. Lack of sales might be a good indicator of value as well, since i saw two moris and a blue house priced at 3k for a while but nobody really wants to buy them right away.
 
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Definitely agree with some of Saiki's points ^ there. Also I believe that the cyan house should be moved down more towards the bottom of tier 5, because I believe both me and saiki (?) bought ours for 600 each (if we're basing the tier list off of recent sales).
 
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This is a great idea and definitely needed, but should the tier list be based off recent sales, when rarity/demand are not taken into account? Some collectibles are rarely ever sold (i.e. loveball) but I'm pretty sure a majority can agree that it would sell for at least 10k. Would it also be possible to move collectibles within its current tier? Mori and Dark Blue House should be kept at the bottom of tier 3 (or even lowered to tier 4) and pokeball is just barely tier 1. I also noticed that sellers have a tendency to price a collectible just based on where they see it in a tier so it may help to just have a complete overhaul of the tier list. For example, I think that hot feather sells for around 2.2k with the cool feather selling for significantly less at 1.6k despite being more sought after/rarer only. This is the main problem with the current tier list because if someone decided to list a cool feather for 2.2k before today, nobody would buy it due to seeing its current standing. Lack of sales might be a good indicator of value as well, since i saw two moris and a blue house priced at 3k for a while but nobody really wants to buy them right away.
the spreadsheet was made because mog kept being bugged to update the list, it's not completely up to date hence asking users for their input. i'll probably do one big haul after discussion has died down.

collectibles can and will move in their own tiers, for now i've moved cool feather and frost/aurora egg up under hot feather.
 
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pokeball is pretty safely in T1. I cannot recall a sale that was less than 13k in recent memory
For some reason I was pretty sure I thought I someone had trouble selling it for 10k so I felt that it would be appropriate to place it there. Now that i actually checked, I saw that it can actually sell for 16k and even up to 20k (this is just an outlier though). I'll edit my comment on that part but I believe the other parts of the collectibles I mentioned were accurate, but let me know if anything else is wrong thank you ^_^
 
definitely agree that some people are just pricing based on the chart, but it doesn't reflect current buying or selling trends. ex. collectibles like famous mushrooms which exist in btf market in large quantities, but with little purchasing interest. people selling them price them at 400-500, because of the tier, but little to no sales occur from it.

also to add to the houses discussions, i agree with all of them being moved significantly down. i bought my mori after it sat on the market for a long while, at just 1.6k? which is very far below the tier amount. interest for them just isn't as high as it once was! i think eggies have replaced them haha.

this is all fine, sellers have a total right to sell at whatever rate, but i think has the bigger interesting action of making sellers feel reluctant to accept less for items than they are listed for - as if the price of the collectible is SET and anything less than that, even if they're not getting any other offers, is unacceptable, rather than a sign of a changing collectible economy. i've been around a long time and watched a lot of collectibles rise and fall in ranks and i always think the changes are so compelling! thanks @seliph for taking this on in a new way :D
 
definitely agree that some people are just pricing based on the chart, but it doesn't reflect current buying or selling trends. ex. collectibles like famous mushrooms which exist in btf market in large quantities, but with little purchasing interest. people selling them price them at 400-500, because of the tier, but little to no sales occur from it.

also to add to the houses discussions, i agree with all of them being moved significantly down. i bought my mori after it sat on the market for a long while, at just 1.6k? which is very far below the tier amount. interest for them just isn't as high as it once was! i think eggies have replaced them haha.

this is all fine, sellers have a total right to sell at whatever rate, but i think has the bigger interesting action of making sellers feel reluctant to accept less for items than they are listed for - as if the price of the collectible is SET and anything less than that, even if they're not getting any other offers, is unacceptable, rather than a sign of a changing collectible economy. i've been around a long time and watched a lot of collectibles rise and fall in ranks and i always think the changes are so compelling! thanks @seliph for taking this on in a new way :D
This is a good observation!! My original pitch when we came up with the tier list idea was to not include ANY price suggestions what-so ever, but i think the first step is to definitely find where all the current collectibles fit on the list accurately..., but also i wonder if theres a better way to go about representing each of the tier’s values?
 
i wonder if it'd be better to just drop the names and keep them as just tier 1/tier 2 etc while keeping the prices, and just clarify what the tiers as a whole represent
 
This is a good observation!! My original pitch when we came up with the tier list idea was to not include ANY price suggestions what-so ever, but i think the first step is to definitely find where all the current collectibles fit on the list accurately..., but also i wonder if theres a better way to go about representing each of the tier’s values?

thanks, haha. yeah, i can see the stance of both arguments, for an amount and against!

i wonder hmmm. :unsure: if the medium isn't possible? google maps style, like with $, $$, $$$, $$$$ tiers ? to indicate proportional value, and then a column highlighting recent sales(and maybe also offers??) with dates so people can make their own judgements? in conjunction maybe with the amount of that particular collectible released? don't remember the website, but there's a place that aggregates both total sold/given of a collectible, plus the date it was released, which obvs really heavily plays into demand/availability to determine price.

TIER 1: $$$$
ITEM 1 | recent sales (8,750 tbt, 9,000 tbt, 12,000 tbt) | 34 released
ITEM 2 | recent sales (8,000 tbt, 7,500 tbt, 5,030 tbt) | 52 released
TIER 2: $$$
ITEM 1 | recent sales (2,200 tbt, 1,200 tbt, 1,600 tbt) | 97 released
ITEM 2 | recent sales (800 tbt, 900 tbt, 560 tbt) | 122 released
TIER 3: $$
ITEM 1 | recent sales (300 tbt, 250 tbt, 275 tbt) | 275 released
ITEM 2 | recent sales (120 tbt, 100 tbt, 150 tbt) | 303 released
TIER 4: $
ITEM 1 | recent sales (65 tbt, 70 tbt, 55 tbt) | 425 released
ITEM 2 | recent sales (30 tbt, 50 tbt, 22 tbt) | 500 released

just ideas, haha 😅
 
since the threads died down a little, here's the significant changes so far:

  • toy hammer and rad feather moved DOWN to tier 4
  • ruby and coco moved UP to tier 6
  • eevee egg and poptart egg moved UP to tier 5
  • cyan, dark blue, and green (mori) houses all moved to the bottom of their current tiers

I would wait to readjust any fair related collectibles till after the fair as the value may change.
as karma said we don't know if that'll be any time soon, so it's best for them to be as accurate as possible right now and they can move around if/when the fair does affect them
 
I'm not too sure about the value of the yellow feather; I think it's fine where it is for now. I only know of one person who's been looking for one in recent memory.
 
i'm probably just bias bc of my extreme love of yellow LOL (srsly if anyone wants to sell me their yellow feather tho.. hmu)
 
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