Mafia DA:I Mafia

I don't have a ton to say at the moment because I really need to go back, read everything over again, analyze, and put my thoughts together, which will take me a while. I just wanted to post something quick in response to Kat's question to show where my head's at. I've made my thoughts on Oath quite clear, and he's my only strong scum-read at the moment. My suspicions on Pusheen are more along the line of "if Oath is scum, then who's likely to be his mafia buddy?", which I don't want to take a ton of stock in until I know 100% whether Oath is mafia or not (or I'm dead. In which case, Oath is 99.99% mafia).

but there plenty of over players posting.. myself, daniel, TheAhPo, Kat, slammint (a little) and you're telling me you have no reads on them ? not even when your up for lynch ? unsettling really.
 
@Oath

If you haven't been taking anything seriously since D1, what posts can I take seriously?

I think Kat asked this too, and panda back the fk off already. I'm not asking questions in 5 different ways.
 
but there plenty of over players posting.. myself, daniel, TheAhPo, Kat, slammint (a little) and you're telling me you have no reads on them ? not even when your up for lynch ? unsettling really.
She definitely gave opinions lol. Only ones where she didn't was because of activity (Capella) or you/Apo in a situation where she hasn't fully analyzed.
 
@Oath

If you haven't been taking anything seriously since D1, what posts can I take seriously?

I think Kat asked this too, and panda back the fk off already. I'm not asking questions in 5 different ways.

Yes, Kat did ask it, and I answered it.

Yeah, it was. TBH I wasn't really taking the game entirely seriously up until this day started
 
@Oath

If you haven't been taking anything seriously since D1, what posts can I take seriously?

I think Kat asked this too, and panda back the fk off already. I'm not asking questions in 5 different ways.
Calm down lmao.

He answered a few posts above this. The votes on Trojan and Ender were bandwagon, and his suspicion of Tom was a joke (As well as Dad's).
 
She definitely gave opinions lol. Only ones where she didn't was because of activity (Capella) or you/Apo in a situation where she hasn't fully analyzed.

opinions... you mean saying " uh im not sure... no, maybe, idk" is an opinion or a read ? haha
 
What do you think about Daniel radically changing his opinion of Oath from not suspicious to scum when he said he was cop, then? And what were your thoughts about Oath prior to D3?

Also, kinda getting critical here so:
@ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE OATH LYNCH:
Why did Oath claim Sheriff?
1.1) Considering the sequence of events, I'm willing to town-read him for now. Ender-swap, then Trojan blatantly confessing they were mafia, then this mess. N1/D2 it was pretty much set in stone that Trojan was going to be lynched, so there wasn't a ton of discussion to be had.

1.2) I was suspicious of him from D1.
oath2order
I want to hear more from you. You hopped on the Daniel bandwagon and have been pretty quiet since then. Looking back at your posts, it's basically ****-posting, explaining bussing, jumping on the Danielwagon, and the bit about Dad & Tom being scum buddies (which I don't believe, but whatever). Although you've been posting I feel like you're sailing under the radar and I don't like it.
When he was going on and on about Trojan possibly being a jester, my suspicions started growing, but Trojan was target #1 at that point, so I didn't get into it.

2) I have no solid ideas. What I do know, though, is that Oath is a very good mafia player, and I wouldn't put it past him to see some benefit to this whole thing that I don't see.

My only suggestion is that by getting me lynched today, while he would most definitely be lynched tomorrow, it would somehow put the scum team in a better position than before. I could also see Oath controlling the town with his mafia team after I'm gone and he kills another vocal player like Kat or Daniel tonight (which is supported by the kill pattern - all of the people who've been killed are people who have played before).
So uh. You're not confidant Oath is mafia?
There's always the possibility, however slight, that he is actually the detective, and I was framed. The only thing I know 100% is that I am town.
 
At least she gave reasons for why her null reads were null, and she gave a definitive answer on 6. For reference, Oath gave a definitive answer on 5.
 
I'm trying to get my thoughts together rn... honestly, I'm kind of a confused mess lol.

In thread, LaBelle has definitely acted more innocent. She posts her thoughts and is serious about things, whereas apparently Oath wasn't serious? I get that people like Tom weren't serious, but it still is a scummy move.

But night results are pretty damning. So that's why at first glance, I'd say LaBelle's prob mafia. But I know from one of my past games, I BS'd a roleblock claim. It's possible to BS night feedback, so I'm kinda getting weary of simply voting someone simply because of night evidence.

So all in all, I'm not sure. If someone could point out how LaBelle's been suspicious in thread, or why Oath would BS his claim, I'd really appreciate it.
 
I'm trying to get my thoughts together rn... honestly, I'm kind of a confused mess lol.

In thread, LaBelle has definitely acted more innocent. She posts her thoughts and is serious about things, whereas apparently Oath wasn't serious? I get that people like Tom weren't serious, but it still is a scummy move.

But night results are pretty damning. So that's why at first glance, I'd say LaBelle's prob mafia. But I know from one of my past games, I BS'd a roleblock claim. It's possible to BS night feedback, so I'm kinda getting weary of simply voting someone simply because of night evidence.

So all in all, I'm not sure. If someone could point out how LaBelle's been suspicious in thread, or why Oath would BS his claim, I'd really appreciate it.
He would bs his claim because he doesn't like Beyonc?.
 
Seems like for all of his skull, Beyonce will still be what sends chills through his bones. :D
Ok that one was lame
Seriously though, can you think of an idea?

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**** **** guys we have 10 minutes left
 
Seems like for all of his skull, Beyonce will still be what sends chills through his bones. :D
Ok that one was lame
Seriously though, can you think of an idea?

Because if he lied about his role and sways us to lynch LaBelle. He'd probably kill someone like panda or AhPo and pin all the blame on the other one. It would be easy to sway just again like he is now.

Plus he hates Beyonc? and no innocent person hates the queen.
 
Here's an ISO of all Oath's posts, hope this helps why I'm suspicious of him.
On another note, Tom and Dad are both fairly experienced mafia players. It would honestly not surprise me if the two of them were mafia goons or a useless mafia role like a framer and were bussing each other (bussing is a term that means two members of mafia pushing each other for lynch, in the hopes that when one does get lynched, the other appears more like town)


Kicking things off here's where he says his first suspicions, he claims he thought they were bussing eachother, which really isn't true now when you look at it. Never really understood why he thought this here. He's saying they were jokes though so whatever.


Yeah, exactly, and the goal of bussing is to make the other appear town.

To follow up my last claim. For a while after this post he doesn't exactly say much.


Skipping to D3 Because I can't find anything of interest.


LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE NAUGHTIES


WHO TRIED TO KILL ME

Here's where everything starts, he says that he's been attacked and is them pointing fingers at LaBelle.

We had 2 KP night one, which means mafia KP is calculated as "number of mafia rounded up" which means mafia started with three people. Three people being 1.5 KP, rounded up being the 2 kills of night one.

Given that only Dad died last night, mafia has two KP, and therefore, 2 members left.

pls LaBelle come online :(

Wait hold the phone, he just said he was attacked last night, and he's saying that mafia can only kill one person? And if that's so, didn't Ashtot say that he was attacked too? I'm confused here, is he faking being attacked or is there a 3rd party?


That's interesting though.

Because I was blocked night one. Hello, my name is Leliana, the town Detective.

Tonight I got my PM from justice saying two things. One that I was saved, and the other revealing the results of my inspection :)

Because it has a lot to do with dear old Dad's suspicions and coincidentally the first person who thought I was faking being shot at last night.

I wonder who that could be. AH YES.



We need to narrow down the scumpool? Okay. Sounds good to me, scumlord


So you're claiming to be detective? I don't exactly see much evidence, not much from the start either. And if there's really 2 mafia wouldn't that mean you're faking your shot at since dad died?


uh huh.

Even if I hadn't inspected you, I'd have been suspicious of your town role-blocker claim.



1) Yes I am, and yes I did.

2) My guess is that she actually is a roleblocker, but a mafia roleblocker. Town roleblockers are not all too common, and in a smaller set-up, almost unheard of.



All I got back was "You were saved last night.

Ok, so what if town role blockers are rare, is that not to say its not true? And if that PM is true, why would there be one kill? And didn't you just say they had one KP? So if that's the case how would you being shot at possible?

1. While a framing IS possible, it has only ever successfully been done once in TBT mafia history. Two years and only one successful framing. Occam's razor here. The simplest solution is often the correct one.

2. Why would you flip green if you're truly a town roleblocker? That's a blue role.



be nice stop arguing :(

So you're saying there's only been one framing in tbt history?
That's not to say one can't happen though? And your second point in there's unnecessary.
How the hell am I supposed to know why she kielled them? Maybe she killed Tom to make Dad look sus ir because he was sus and when scum wasnt able to get Dad lynchrd because Trojan, they just killed Dad because he was getting close to finding out the scum team.

Interesting that yoy don't seem to care about why LaBelle would kill Runeraider or try to kill me

There's something iffy about this, he's exchanging some defense from Daniels suspicions, and its all kinda off to me. He's still saying that he's been shot at, and that dad had a suspicion for tom? Pardon me, he hasn't said anything about tom being suspicious as far as I can tell, atleast not at the time. And trojan was alive during N2, so I think he was only killing trojan to troll him, and he was on the right track with alot of things.

Yeah, it was. TBH I wasn't really taking the game entirely seriously up until this day started


he seriously doesn't start taking the game seriously until now? it looks like this whole thread was a joke to him tbh. Who seriouslyy would have that outlook?


Yadayaya, he says some stuff about trojan during D2 and he's suspicious of the 2 people who doubt him, Labelle and Daniel.[/QUOTE]

I'd finish it but there's low time so yeah. Oath is leading town right now and I don't think he's telling the truth right now.
 
Well of course it'd be to lynch LaBelle, but wouldn't he look suspicious af after the lynch is said and done?

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tfw you forget to close your spoiler
 
Hey AhPoCawdOz, you're cherry-picking a lot right there. I admitted later on after discussion that I ****ed up the math on how I thought KP was calculated. I notice you removed that.
 
Well of course it'd be to lynch LaBelle, but wouldn't he look suspicious af after the lynch is said and done?

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tfw you forget to close your spoiler

He could easy pin the blame on someone else to buy them time or convince us to not lynch him. I mean your all wrapped around his finger so why not keep it that way?
 
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