Mafia Death by Design: An Animal Crossing Mafia [day2]

[mogyay]

let dan replace waffle !!

 

[radical6]

who even knows if this game is even balanced that well tho lol (no offence guys)

is this experiment or main

also kirby is balancing the roles so i hope he balanced well

I forget what a mason is or does but I am the cop, and I'm betting I'll get killed or role blocked tonight. Why did I claimmmmm **** me

Actually maf will keep me alive and get town to sheep me next phase, mark my words

Really thought I was in danger to get killed (and at the point I posted I think it was tied or one in my favor, I didn't know that at the time though.)

Town's basically ****ed because we lost 2 at the same time with a game of 13. Assuming the split is 9:3:1 town to maf to third party, we're down to 7:3:1 and 6:3:1 by day 2. Mislynch and another night puts it at 4:3:1 and Tom will side with maf and finish the game.

Unless tom is maf :eyes:

so when you inspect do yoy get told their rolename

 

[toadsworthy]

what is tom's role name as survivor? did we ever get told that?

 

[mogyay]

im not saying we shouldnt just take evans word for it but there are other things to focus on such as that insane trundle vote lol: so we have scum in kallie, zendal, seroja, toad. im gonna sleep now but ill regroup my thoughts tmrw but actually i prob wont cause im working all night so we shall see. gnight

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tom side with town ily

 

[radical6]

im not saying we shouldnt just take evans word for it but there are other things to focus on such as that insane trundle vote lol: so we have scum in kallie, zendal, seroja, toad. im gonna sleep now but ill regroup my thoughts tmrw but actually i prob wont cause im working all night so we shall see. gnight

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tom side with town ily

zendel most likely to be scum imo


also its pretty much unreasonable for there to be a cop in this game

The most obvious power of a Masonry (and Best Friends) is the mutual confirmation of multiple players as Town. Consider that a Cop can find out over the span of two Nights that two other players are innocent, and if the Cop roleclaims effectively, the Town wins three confirmed-innocent players on Day 3. A three-person Masonry, on the other hand, has that same number of confirmed innocents from the start of the game. In addition, while a Cop's innocent results are mostly only useful if the Cop lives to claim them and is believed, each of the Masons can mutually confirm the others as soon as the existence of a Mason is made evident. (For instance, if someone dies overNight and flips Mason, the other Mason(s) can still claim and be considered confirmed Town.) Last, Mason is difficult (but not impossible) for scum to fakeclaim, as they need to put up a scumpartner to be their fake Mason partner and hope that neither of them die over the course of the game.

Some moderators consider two Masons to be a roughly equivalent substitute for a Cop.

The conversational aspect of Masons is not nearly as good (as opposed to with Neighbors, where the conversation is a means to the end of discerning the Neighbors' alignments). It can be used to allow the confirmed Town players to confer with each other and play strategically during the Day - much like scum do, but with the intent of helping the Town and confounding the scum instead of vice versa. To that end, the ability for Masons to speak to each other amplifies the skill of the Masons themselves, but has no inherent power by itself.

 

[amazonevan19]

I get alignment and that's it

 

[radical6]

anyway, its 13 players. 2 blues already. a doctor is more likely than a cop. so youre then saying evan we should add on another blue with 3 already and add a cop at 4.

4/13 blues. nah.

especially with how powerful masons can be in such a small game .. add a cop and its op.

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we could maybe have a vig over a doc but as i said, 2 masons and a cop is redudnant. kirby plays enough discord mafia im sure to know how balance works.

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besides evan i think its probably zendel, said so before the thread was locked.

 

[toadsworthy]

im not saying we shouldnt just take evans word for it but there are other things to focus on such as that insane trundle vote lol: so we have scum in kallie, zendal, seroja, toad. im gonna sleep now but ill regroup my thoughts tmrw but actually i prob wont cause im working all night so we shall see. gnight

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tom side with town ily

Kallie and Seroja were two of the biggest town leads this whole time... I understand what they did to try to save chick who freaking claimed! Mog you didn't even vote despite saying you had logic to go with a Sej lynch and didn't want Chick lynched. Also whats with this change of tone to harp on the 4 of us? You are never that adamant about anything in a game!

I get that end of day was a cluster, but lets not just throw out the actual analysis of this game. What if mafia wasn't even around to do anything for EoD? While yeah i get that it was bad, but in SU2 the same thing happened to lynch Qwerty at the last second, but no one cared because town lynched scum

 

[radical6]

Kallie and Seroja were two of the biggest town leads this whole time... I understand what they did to try to save chick who freaking claimed! Mog you didn't even vote despite saying you had logic to go with a Sej lynch and didn't want Chick lynched. Also whats with this change of tone to harp on the 4 of us? You are never that adamant about anything in a game!

I get that end of day was a cluster, but lets not just throw out the actual analysis of this game. What if mafia wasn't even around to do anything for EoD? While yeah i get that it was bad, but in SU2 the same thing happened to lynch Qwerty at the last second, but no one cared because town lynched scum

actually youre right toad, mog didnt vote whatsoever.

i'm 100% sure mog is smart enough to know that if she jumped on the trundle bandwagon it would look bad. she was here throughout the whole end of day watching the chick fiasco go down. she watched the votes trickle in.

she couldve saved trundle by voting for chick, no?

chick was doomed to die anyway.

and her rather..focus on us and wanting to shy some attention away from evan is hmm.

 

[mogyay]

Kallie and Seroja were two of the biggest town leads this whole time... I understand what they did to try to save chick who freaking claimed! Mog you didn't even vote despite saying you had logic to go with a Sej lynch and didn't want Chick lynched. Also whats with this change of tone to harp on the 4 of us? You are never that adamant about anything in a game!

I get that end of day was a cluster, but lets not just throw out the actual analysis of this game. What if mafia wasn't even around to do anything for EoD? While yeah i get that it was bad, but in SU2 the same thing happened to lynch Qwerty at the last second, but no one cared because town lynched scum

toad ily but i know ur scum : )

 

[amazonevan19]

Then I have a beef with Kirby then, because I am cop, and if masons make my role useless, then what the actual **** GMs?

so we need to kill zendel d2 then. Whoever led the Apple lynch basically confirmed they are scum. Or you can kill me and lose. Whatever you wanna do

 

[mogyay]

omg are u guys trying to push a lynch on me now lmao bless

 

[toadsworthy]

toad ily but i know ur scum : )

hahaha, that worked for Themeless but your wrong this time my love

 

[mogyay]

the trundle thing happened in like 5 seconds, i wish i saw it in time and i was smart enough to vote chick but i didnt think because i knew i wasnt voting chick and didnt imagine that a trunde wagon would appear so quickly lmao honestly this game

 

[toadsworthy]

omg are u guys trying to push a lynch on me now lmao bless

I never said lets lynch mog.... I'm saying don't just discredit that people were town leaning Kallie and Seroja, myself a little bit too, just because of the circumstances of the EoD

 

[radical6]

Then I have a beef with Kirby then, because I am cop, and if masons make my role useless, then what the actual **** GMs?

so we need to kill zendel d2 then. Whoever led the Apple lynch basically confirmed they are scum. Or you can kill me and lose. Whatever you wanna do

its ok to surrender now, sorry you got ****ed over by masons.

let me guess how this went down

kirby gave you cop as a safeclaim, it seemed good, made sense, hey even a couple others thought it made sense. so you thought "well if its a safeclaim maybe theres no other cop in the game"

hence why no one counterclaimed you, because there is no cop. we have masons. a rather powerful mason pair, to be exact.

 

[mogyay]

actually youre right toad, mog didnt vote whatsoever.

i'm 100% sure mog is smart enough to know that if she jumped on the trundle bandwagon it would look bad. she was here throughout the whole end of day watching the chick fiasco go down. she watched the votes trickle in.

she couldve saved trundle by voting for chick, no?

chick was doomed to die anyway.

and her rather..focus on us and wanting to shy some attention away from evan is hmm.

t r i c k l e

lmlao r u kidding u legit just slammed him???

 

[radical6]

t r i c k l e

lmlao r u kidding u legit just slammed him???

you're scum with evan, you defended him before i went in depth with the mason theory.

you were there in the last minutes, you could have voted to make the lynch a tie.

why are you defending him? "hey guys this game might not be balanced XD" its not as obvious youre defending him but youre trying to sway suspicion off him.

sorry, but hes scum. a cop and 2 masons in a game of 13 doesnt work.

 

[mogyay]

you're scum with evan, you defended him before i went in depth with the mason theory.

you were there in the last minutes, you could have voted to make the lynch a tie.

why are you defending him? "hey guys this game might not be balanced XD" its not as obvious youre defending him but youre trying to sway suspicion off him.

sorry, but hes scum. a cop and 2 masons in a game of 13 doesnt work.

i admit that not making it a tie was a mistake and i feel really awful but i'm not scum. and sure maybe i am swaying suspicon off of him, maybe he is mafia but i'm more convinced that one of u 3 are rn

 

[radical6]

you're also now switching to a more emotional tone, compared to when people soft sussed you earlier.

if youre innocent, and youre certain were scum, why are you getting panicky? whats with the "lmaos, luls" etc?

tbh i could probably imagine you two being annoyed in scum chat that there were masons in this game.

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i admit that not making it a tie was a mistake and i feel really awful but i'm not scum. and sure maybe i am swaying suspicon off of him, maybe he is mafia but i'm more convinced that one of u 3 are rn

so you think the fact there's 2 masons and a cop makes more sense than perhaps 3 people were trying to not have a useless day 1?

nope. theres no way theres 2 masons and a cop. hes scum either way.

kirby plays discord mafia the most. we all know this. hes always looking at stats for the game for whatever reason. im sure theres a mason setup in there. he knows how masons work, since theyre more common in fast paced games.

just surrender now please.