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Do you approve of the job the President of the United States is doing?
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uhm okay????????? Lol
Surprise, you're not everyone.
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Wait, so love and climate change isn't important? America (the world, really) needs a government based on the simple concept of love, and acceptance, and tolerance for one another. That's what everybody should strive for. Instead, Trump supporters go around insulting those different to them, and saying "we won" like it was a football game.
Just no.
Just no.
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He was a Democrat until 1987, then switched to Republican and stayed one until 1999, when he then became part of the "Reform Party" (a third party formed by Ross Perot in 1995) and remained a member of it until 2001, when he then switched back to being a Democrat. He stayed a Democrat then until 2009, when he then switched back to being a Republican and stayed one until 2011, when he then became an independent, but switched back to a being a Republican just a year later in 2012. So yeah, he's switched parties a total of six times.
seliph
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The sad part.
Pence and most (if not all?) of Trump's cabinet support some form of conversion therapy. If you don't know what that is, it's literal torture for LGBT+ people. The lack of empathy you have for fellow LGBT people is sickening although I guess not surprising for someone who doesn't think love is important.
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He left the republican party once because of the racist little **** David Duke.
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I don't think Trump or Pence supports conversion therapy.
I have support. I just don't support falsehoods.
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I don't think Trump or Pence supports conversion therapy.
I have support. I just don't support falsehoods.
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Trump has been a Democrat twice. He was one before 1987 and from 2001 to 2009. As I said, he was in the Reform Party (as I said, a party Ross Perot formed in 1995) from 1999 to 2001, but yes, controversies surrounding David Duke's involvement with that party led him to leave it in 2001 and basically was part of the reason (also because of membership from Pat Buchanan) that he ended his practically experimental 2000 presidential run. 1999 and 2011 were the only years he left the Republican Party, and his time as an independent was only for a brief year in 2011 and 2012, likely because he didn't want to appear as a Republican when he started all the birther stuff about then-President Obama, which led Obama to send his long-form birth certificate on April 22, 2011.
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I chose approve. While I don't agree with everything he stands for I do appreciate he is already delivering on his promises, namely backing out of TPP and eliminating the penalty for those who can't afford Obamacare. Even if I don't agree with everything, at least he is delivering on his promises swiftly. I chose that I approve of how he's fulfilling his role.
How can people even say climate change is a hoax when 2016 was the hottest year on record, followed by the second hottest 2015, and then 2014, and 2010. The top ten hottest years on record were all in the past two decades. Like do people think that scientists are making up the temperatures lmao?? The only reason politicians try to say its a hoax is because they receive donor money from fossil fuel companies like Exxon Mobile. I mean even if you accepted the fact that temperatures are rising, you could say that the fact that it would devastate the earth is a lie, but you're not a meteorologist/climatologist so you have no merit to say that.
Unless you have creditable research that proves otherwise (97% of scientists say it is in fact real), there's no argument whatsoever.
Unless you have creditable research that proves otherwise (97% of scientists say it is in fact real), there's no argument whatsoever.
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I don't like Trump or Pence as much as people, but this article doesn't really support that Pence has outright said that he supports conversion therapy. That claim is based on inferring the meaning behind one quote of his... The article itself at the end says its "half-true". The only people who accused him of that were LGBT people themselves, so its kind of biased. I don't think based on the quote at hand that he was referring to conversion therapy either, because if you think HIV/AIDS is only spread one way, its not
Don't get me wrong conversion therapy is terrible, I would never in a million years support that. But this article doesn't do a good job of supporting the claim that "Pence supports conversion therapy" to me.
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Donald Trump hasn't been president for long enough for me to answer that. Ask this again in 2 years once the riots have stopped(hopefully) and ppl have calmed down a bit. Maybe he'll be a good president? Or maybe he won't. Let's try to stay positive and keep the faith that the nation isn't going to ****.
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If only he and his cronies didn't define it as an issue, they would allow the current rights and protections for LGBT people to continue on and expand. However, that's not the case. They *do* define it as an issue. And with a Republican/Religious Right controlled government, I'm not sure exactly how much damage can be done, but it's not going to be good one way or the other.
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I looked at two of those articles and they refer to the same claim I just wrote about above.... again, I think Pence is terrible, and Conversion Therapy is absolutely inane... but I don't fully believe he supports it with the loose interpretation of the quote the three articles I looked at quoted
one article tried to make the situation worse by talking about shock therapy with it. While shock therapy is probably used for it (and totally stupid and unethical) they are stringing along concepts for shock value (bad pun) to get people to read their article.
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seliph
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Clearly you do if you know they're directed to you lmao.
If you're gonna be one of those people who ask for a source when presented with anything at all you can't back out and go "Well I'm not reading them because I don't like you. Also I've just now blocked you so I can conveniently post this comment despite having responded to you previously on this very thread".
And people say I'm impossible to argue with.
seliph
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"...to those seeking to change their sexual behavior." sounds like conversion therapy to me.
Oh yeah also there's generally mention of shock therapy with Pence because there was a rumour that shock therapy is what he supported, though that part has been proven false.
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