Do you approve of the job the President of the United States is doing?

[-Apples-]

If you don't do anything that you got an infraction for you'll be fine. Just don't call people names or resort to personal insults.

I've gotten loads of em and I'm still here so go ahead and debate.

I got like four of them in total, none of them actually coming from political threads, but that doesn't make me the best person. But at least I'm better than Donald Trump when it comes to behavior, but I wouldn't do a good job as president.

 

[Soraru]

i'm not a white supremacist, and because i'm a part of one of the marginalized groups that he and his team are targeting, i don't have the privilege to support or be indifferent to his policies, because my family, my friends, and myself are not safe from oppression. never really were

and even if i were... i would have enough human decency, integrity, and empathy for the innocents who are targeted to know not to support him. so in short, no. i don't approve.

 

[Red Cat]

I thought a Supreme Court decision couldn't be revoked though?

It can be reversed by another Supreme Court decision (or a constitutional amendment, but that's not happening). Like how Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson. Scalia was one of the justices who voted in the minority in the same-sex marriage case, so replacing him with another anti-gay justice won't change anything, but if one of the majority justices dies / retires and Trump gets to pick a replacement, then it could be in trouble. Even then though, I highly doubt they would actually touch the case because it would spark a massive backlash and be extremely damaging politically for Republicans.

 

[-Apples-]

It can be reversed by another Supreme Court decision (or a constitutional amendment, but that's not happening). Like how Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson. Scalia was one of the justices who voted in the minority in the same-sex marriage case, so replacing him with another anti-gay justice won't change anything, but if one of the majority justices dies / retires and Trump gets to pick a replacement, then it could be in trouble. Even then though, I highly doubt they would actually touch the case because it would spark a massive backlash and be extremely damaging politically for Republicans.

You're right that only the Supreme Court can overturn previous decisions, but some can be superseded, which means invalidated by another law or executive action. You know that Dred Scot v Sandford never got overturned, but it became invalid due to the 13th and 14th amendments. I kinda feel that the three ACA rulings (including King v Burwell) will be invalidated if ACA gets repealed.

I do hope that Roe v Wade gets overturned though, but if they do throw the case out, they should still allow women to get abortions if the reason to having one is rape, incest, or to save the mothers' life. Meaning that states can ban abortions by any means, except for the three cases I just mentioned. I heard that Trump wants Roe overturned, but not Obergefell.

Also, if liberals care about womens' rights to have an abortion, why do they support eliminating gender restrictions in public restrooms without caring about womens' rights to privacy in public restrooms? If gendered bathrooms get eliminated, their right to privacy in public restrooms is basically gone.

 

[ams]

Also, if liberals care about womens' rights to have an abortion, why do they support eliminating gender restrictions in public restrooms without caring about womens' rights to privacy in public restrooms? If gendered bathrooms get eliminated, their right to privacy in public restrooms is basically gone.

As a liberal who cares about women's rights I want trans women to be able to use public washrooms safely and privately. Women's rights apply to all women.

As someone in the medical field I want women to have access to safe abortions so that they don't die alone and in pain from trying to end their pregnancies in alternative ways. Anyone who isn't afraid of this reality needs to go into an OR and see a septic uterus.

 

[-Apples-]

As a liberal who cares about women's rights I want trans women to be able to use public washrooms safely and privately. Women's rights apply to all women.

As someone in the medical field I want women to have access to safe abortions so that they don't die alone and in pain from trying to end their pregnancies in alternative ways. Anyone who isn't afraid of this reality needs to go into an OR and see a septic uterus.

When I mean eliminating gender restrictions, it means anybody can use any restroom. I still favor keeping gendered bathrooms, which means all cisgendered men and boys must stay out of the womens' restrooms, and all cisgendered women and girls must stay out of the mens' restroom. The only exception is staff members (more particularly janitors). As for the transgender issue when it comes to restrooms, I think it should be up to the business or commercial service to decide whether restrooms should be separated by sex or gender identity. Some can force transgenders to use restrooms of their identity, some can force them to use restrooms of their biological sex, and others can allow them to access any restroom as long as it's open. But no government should get involved in the issue.

 

[Leen]

I do hope that Roe v Wade gets overturned though, but if they do throw the case out, they should still allow women to get abortions if the reason to having one is rape, incest, or to save the mothers' life. Meaning that states can ban abortions by any means, except for the three cases I just mentioned. I heard that Trump wants Roe overturned, but not Obergefell.

No one should tell anyone what they can or can't do with their bodies. Uteri included. Case closed.

 

[Bowie]

With the bathroom issue, I think that transsexuals should be allowed to use the bathroom of their physical needs. At the end of the day, you're there to do your business. If you're transgender, there's no real reason why you can't keep using the same one, 'cause even if you feel like a woman, you still have the body of a man, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I also feel like it would just be easier if bathrooms were all unisex, though. Give everybody toilets and be done with it. You're there to do your business, not chit-chat.

 

[Corrie]

He has literally been in office for what, less than a week? A week? He has already: taken the LGBT page down of the official White House page, freezed the grants of programs that include funding for research, redevelopment of former industrial sites, air quality monitoring and education, planned to cut $815 million dollars from climate, environmental, and tribe assistance programs, and signed to advance the construction of Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines.

This isn't about being a Republican or a Democratic citizen anymore. It's about our lives, our future, and our planet. If both sides continue arguing or become oblivious to the damage that is happening to our planet right before our eyes, there won't be democrats or republicans anymore. We'll just be people trying to live off of a ruined world, running out of resources to feed our own families.

Although I don't completely understand politics, or whatever is going on with statistics or voters, I understand that my life might be in jeopardy in the future if Trump keeps up this work.

I agree. With what I have seen so far, he is literally ruining America and even threatening to hurt the world. He doesn't care about the environment and that is dangerous. Trump is dangerous and at this point, I feel like Russia helped him win so he can start a cult-like thing where he can control all of us and make us slaves. I'm getting real worried and I'm not even American!

 

[Leen]

With the bathroom issue, I think that transsexuals should be allowed to use the bathroom of their physical needs. At the end of the day, you're there to do your business. If you're transgender, there's no real reason why you can't keep using the same one, 'cause even if you feel like a woman, you still have the body of a man, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I also feel like it would just be easier if bathrooms were all unisex, though. Give everybody toilets and be done with it. You're there to do your business, not chit-chat.

I'm not trans, so I can't speak for trans people, but understanding what I know, if you affiliate yourself with a gender and you identify with that particular sex, why would you use the other bathroom? For example, why would a trans woman use the men's bathroom if they don't identify as being a man?

Trans folks are going to the bathroom to use the bathroom, just like every one else.

Also, here's another thought for you, if a perv wanted to go into another bathroom, they just would.... It's not like bathrooms are keypadded with secret boy and girl codes. C'mon.

 

[GrayScreen]

I don't know why it's such a big issue to have transpeople just use the bathroom they need too. If you honestly think a transwoman is safe in a male bathroom, then I really wonder if you've actually known any transpeople...or any people point blank. As far as worrying about creepy men claiming they're trans in order to harass women, that's very VERY unlikely. I'm a hundred times more worried about moms bringing their 5-10 year old boys in the bathroom with them. I can't exactly slap a kid for peeping, even if they obviously know better.

 

[Bowie]

I'm not trans, so I can't speak for trans people, but understanding what I know, if you affiliate yourself with a gender and you identify with that particular sex, why would you use the other bathroom? For example, why would a trans woman use the men's bathroom if they don't identify as being a man?

Trans folks are going to the bathroom to use the bathroom, just like every one else.

Also, here's another thought for you, if a perv wanted to go into another bathroom, they just would.... It's not like bathrooms are keypadded with secret boy and girl codes. C'mon.

I'm not transgender either, but I wear girls clothes sometimes, and plenty of girly accessories. Been mistaken for a girl plenty of times as well. When I go to a public toilet (they're kinda disgusting, so I don't make a habit of it), I go to the boys. If I identified as a woman, in my head, then I would still go to the men's because I'm a boy and I can use the urinals.

You think practically, not emotionally. I mean, that could just be me. I don't know. But a pervert could drop into any bathroom, for males or females. Just recently I read about it happening rather locally. That's why it's a good idea to avoid public restrooms like the plaque regardless. Not a good place for doing anything other than your business.

Like I said, they should just be unisex. That would save so much trouble. Give everyone their own stalls, a lock perhaps for each one, and completely get rid of urinals. Then everyone has their privacy to do what they've gotta do, and they can be whoever they wanna be.

EDIT: Of course, if you're transsexual, that's completely different. Not sure how anyone could be confused or offended by a physical woman heading into a woman's toilet.

 

[toadsworthy]

This isn't even about trump anymore

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

apparently, trump signed a pro-life law and helped the approval of two oil pipelines that could be potentially harmful to the environment.
i want to give him a chance but, you know. stuff like this.

 

[toadsworthy]

apparently, trump signed a pro-life law and helped the approval of two oil pipelines that could be potentially harmful to the environment.
i want to give him a chance but, you know. stuff like this.

He is trying to bend the laws of freedom of speech by telling workers of the EPA what to tak about and post on their website. Like get out of here

 

[Leen]

I'm not transgender either, but I wear girls clothes sometimes, and plenty of girly accessories. Been mistaken for a girl plenty of times as well. When I go to a public toilet (they're kinda disgusting, so I don't make a habit of it), I go to the boys. If I identified as a woman, in my head, then I would still go to the men's because I'm a boy and I can use the urinals.

You think practically, not emotionally. I mean, that could just be me. I don't know. But a pervert could drop into any bathroom, for males or females. Just recently I read about it happening rather locally. That's why it's a good idea to avoid public restrooms like the plaque regardless. Not a good place for doing anything other than your business.

Like I said, they should just be unisex. That would save so much trouble. Give everyone their own stalls, a lock perhaps for each one, and completely get rid of urinals. Then everyone has their privacy to do what they've gotta do, and they can be whoever they wanna be.

EDIT: Of course, if you're transsexual, that's completely different. Not sure how anyone could be confused or offended by a physical woman heading into a woman's toilet.

Wearing women's clothes/accessories is not the same as being transgendered. If anything, that's genderfluid. (Any trans folks reading this, please correct me if I'm wrong). Being transgendered means your biological sex AND gender does not correlate with who you are inside. Transexuals are the folks that have undergone genital corrective surgery to correspond to the sex/gender they identify with. Not everyone who is trans has the means/ability of undergoing top/bottom surgery.

I think that trans folks should be able to use the bathrooms they feel most comfortable in. I'll agree with you, unisex bathrooms would solve it all. However, we live in a world where majority of people believe there are only "two genders" and leaves gender/sex non-conforming folks left to decide which one corresponds most to them.

 

[Bowie]

Wearing women's clothes/accessories is not the same as being transgendered. If anything, that's genderfluid. (Any trans folks reading this, please correct me if I'm wrong). Being transgendered means your biological sex AND gender does not correlate with who you are inside. Transexuals are the folks that have undergone genital corrective surgery to correspond to the sex/gender they identify with. Not everyone who is trans has the means/ability of undergoing top/bottom surgery.

I think that trans folks should be able to use the bathrooms they feel most comfortable in. I'll agree with you, unisex bathrooms would solve it all. However, we live in a world where majority of people believe there are only "two genders" and leaves gender/sex non-conforming folks left to decide which one corresponds most to them.

Like I said, I'm not transgender. I identify as a boy. I just look transgender, so if somebody seen me, I could easily see them making that assumption about me. I know the difference between transgender and transsexual. I was referring to transgender people. I don't see why they'd wanna use a urinal if they didn't have a penis.

Yep. Unisex is the answer. Everyone gets to be happy.

 

[toadsworthy]

Again this is not about trump, so preferably find a different thread....

 

[Bowie]

Again this is not about trump, so preferably find a different thread....

The last thing anybody wants or needs is another thread to talk about him.

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

yep okay so trump is ordering the infamous wall to be built
i understand that he's trying to stop gangs, coyotes, illegals, etc. but hoo boy, this is NOT going to go in your favour man