Fat Judgement
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Yes when it comes to them taking care of themselves. If you're really overweight or obese, you've likely made a series of bad eating choices over the course of months or years. Yes, there are conditions that make it difficult to lose weight, and I get that some people can't exercise due to pain, injury or disability, but that's not the case for most people, and those aren't the people I'm talking about. Most overweight or obese people, especially in America, are that way due to poor diet, huge portion sizes, and lack of exercise. What really bothers me is when parents pass their bad eating habits onto their children then blame it on genetics or make other dumb excuses :T
And to anyone like "wow that's terrible", I grew up with a mom that weighed nearly 400 lbs at one point and a younger brother that weighed about 280. Both of them had trouble doing basic things like house/ yard work and going for walks. Both of them had terrible eating habits, and would eat twice or more what I ate (2 sandwiches and chips, vs one sandwich and chips, seconds or even thirds at dinner, 2 or 3 bowls of cereal in the morning, an entire 2 liter of soda in a day, and things along those lines). They both drank more soda and sweet tea than they did water. Neither of them exercised ever.
Fast forward a few years, and both of them have made drastic changes to their diet and my younger brother has incorporated mild to moderate exercise into his life. My brother has lost almost 100 lbs, and my mom (despite having arthritis, tendonitis, carpel tunnel, weak shoulder cuffs and asthma) dropped just under 200 lbs. Metabolic rates vary only slightly from person to person, and diet really is 80% of what you see in the mirror.
And to anyone like "wow that's terrible", I grew up with a mom that weighed nearly 400 lbs at one point and a younger brother that weighed about 280. Both of them had trouble doing basic things like house/ yard work and going for walks. Both of them had terrible eating habits, and would eat twice or more what I ate (2 sandwiches and chips, vs one sandwich and chips, seconds or even thirds at dinner, 2 or 3 bowls of cereal in the morning, an entire 2 liter of soda in a day, and things along those lines). They both drank more soda and sweet tea than they did water. Neither of them exercised ever.
Fast forward a few years, and both of them have made drastic changes to their diet and my younger brother has incorporated mild to moderate exercise into his life. My brother has lost almost 100 lbs, and my mom (despite having arthritis, tendonitis, carpel tunnel, weak shoulder cuffs and asthma) dropped just under 200 lbs. Metabolic rates vary only slightly from person to person, and diet really is 80% of what you see in the mirror.
AndroGhostX
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I wonder about this too! It seems like it's human nature to judge those who are different from us.
When I was just a kid I judged my mom for being big because my dad is like a stick! But that was before I knew any better! Ironically for me, her weight was my fault because she had a lot of children at once with me so she had a pretty big stomach being pregnant with us! So she probably weighed like 18 or so pounds more with us in her stomach. And fat after pregnancy doesn't go away like nothing. But she's all good now! She worked out and got a weight loss thing. She does have diabetes and losing weight helped her with that but... Correct me if I'm wrong, but if only she would lose her smoking habit.... Does smoking cause weight gain too? Also, minus my poor eating habits, I don't eat very much at all, I can't gain weight easily.
Likewise, some people just can't help it. I have a friend who looks big but it's just that she is really big boned. So genetics can play a huge role with overweight, so I try not to judge too harshly.
The one thing that does irks me are those who are overweight and use the electric shopping cart ride on things at stores. Yeah they probably can't help their weight due to genetics, but they could at least excersize a little bit with walking with a shopping cart instead of riding one. Especially when they probably walked to the entrance with their own feet to get to the cart... There are people who excersize by walking around in the morning daily in the store I work at, but they aren't overweight at all.
When I was just a kid I judged my mom for being big because my dad is like a stick! But that was before I knew any better! Ironically for me, her weight was my fault because she had a lot of children at once with me so she had a pretty big stomach being pregnant with us! So she probably weighed like 18 or so pounds more with us in her stomach. And fat after pregnancy doesn't go away like nothing. But she's all good now! She worked out and got a weight loss thing. She does have diabetes and losing weight helped her with that but... Correct me if I'm wrong, but if only she would lose her smoking habit.... Does smoking cause weight gain too? Also, minus my poor eating habits, I don't eat very much at all, I can't gain weight easily.
Likewise, some people just can't help it. I have a friend who looks big but it's just that she is really big boned. So genetics can play a huge role with overweight, so I try not to judge too harshly.
The one thing that does irks me are those who are overweight and use the electric shopping cart ride on things at stores. Yeah they probably can't help their weight due to genetics, but they could at least excersize a little bit with walking with a shopping cart instead of riding one. Especially when they probably walked to the entrance with their own feet to get to the cart... There are people who excersize by walking around in the morning daily in the store I work at, but they aren't overweight at all.
nintendofan85
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I voted no, but I do have exceptions. The reason I voted no is because there are many members of my family who are either overweight or obese, and I was overweight myself from 2009 to around 2012-2013. While it wasn't severe (we got Wii Fit Plus for Christmas in 2010 and it pretty much always said for most of this period I was "at risk of being overweight", but as far back as the final report card I received in 3rd grade at the end of the 2008-2009 school year, I had been registered by my PE coaches at the elementary school I went to as having an overweight BMI), that period of time I still remember well and increasingly late in elementary school and for most of middle school I became more self-conscious. However, while I didn't really exercise at this time, because of a growth spurt, my fat levels greatly dropped over a fairly long period of time of over a year and a half from April 2012 to November 2013, lasting from just a month before the end of my 6th grade year to about halfway through when I was in 8th, and I was at healthy weight levels by around the end of 2013-beginning of 2014. I won't lie, I don't have the healthiest eating habits, but I do try to cut down on the amount of junk food I eat and, trying not to brag, but since I've been starting to have visible abs, have now in 2018 been beginning to have some of the lowest fat levels I've ever had in my life.
That being said, while I have largely had low fat levels since the end of 2013, weight problems are still common in my family on both sides because of genetics and so forth. For this reason, the fat loss I experienced in 2012 and 2013 did not mean that I suddenly began judging people for their weight-I didn't see that as right. Also, considering the fact that I was already overweight by the middle of 2009, I never felt like it was my place to judge people for that.
However, there's a reason why I do feel like there's an exception-if persistently bad habits continue. For most of the years that my uncle was in high school from 1974 to 1978, he was in very good shape-he played on the football team every year. However, he quit playing in college, meaning he didn't play it after the fall of his senior year in 1977, and beginning in that fall of that year, he gained a lot of fat. While I believe this was partly genetic as well (my grandma was genetically predisposed to being fat, and she struggled with her weight in her childhood in the '30s and '40s, a time when people just didn't struggle with their weight at all), that was a time when my uncle's eating habits became poor. Of course, there are other cases-just look at the actor I'm obsessed with. Marlon Brando was very fit in the '50s, and his buff body was even focused upon in the very first movie he acted in, A Streetcar Named Desire (1951). However, poor eating habits caused him to gain weight in the '60s, although he did lose quite a bit, too much actually, for his iconic role for The Godfather (1972), but later on in the '70s he would start gaining weight again and gained even more in the '80s and '90s, becoming around 350 lbs (close to 1960 kg) by the mid-'90s. The reason for this was that it was well documented, eventually revealed in an article released in 2009, five years after his death, that he would eat whole tubs of ice cream, once ate two whole chickens, and apparently in the '80s once ate twelve Whoppers. Cases like that I have no sympathy for, and that's why you don't see me obsessing over Brando's roles after he put himself into obesity.
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This is exactly what I feel like could be applied to the massive weight gain Marlon Brando had during his later life.
That being said, while I have largely had low fat levels since the end of 2013, weight problems are still common in my family on both sides because of genetics and so forth. For this reason, the fat loss I experienced in 2012 and 2013 did not mean that I suddenly began judging people for their weight-I didn't see that as right. Also, considering the fact that I was already overweight by the middle of 2009, I never felt like it was my place to judge people for that.
However, there's a reason why I do feel like there's an exception-if persistently bad habits continue. For most of the years that my uncle was in high school from 1974 to 1978, he was in very good shape-he played on the football team every year. However, he quit playing in college, meaning he didn't play it after the fall of his senior year in 1977, and beginning in that fall of that year, he gained a lot of fat. While I believe this was partly genetic as well (my grandma was genetically predisposed to being fat, and she struggled with her weight in her childhood in the '30s and '40s, a time when people just didn't struggle with their weight at all), that was a time when my uncle's eating habits became poor. Of course, there are other cases-just look at the actor I'm obsessed with. Marlon Brando was very fit in the '50s, and his buff body was even focused upon in the very first movie he acted in, A Streetcar Named Desire (1951). However, poor eating habits caused him to gain weight in the '60s, although he did lose quite a bit, too much actually, for his iconic role for The Godfather (1972), but later on in the '70s he would start gaining weight again and gained even more in the '80s and '90s, becoming around 350 lbs (close to 1960 kg) by the mid-'90s. The reason for this was that it was well documented, eventually revealed in an article released in 2009, five years after his death, that he would eat whole tubs of ice cream, once ate two whole chickens, and apparently in the '80s once ate twelve Whoppers. Cases like that I have no sympathy for, and that's why you don't see me obsessing over Brando's roles after he put himself into obesity.
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This is exactly what I feel like could be applied to the massive weight gain Marlon Brando had during his later life.
That Marshal Fangirl
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Being overweight myself, I honestly think thin people are more attractive and certainly healthier. I'm not disgusted by people who are moderately fat like me, as I understand the struggles of maintaining a healthy body. However, I've watched quite a few documentaries on people who are over 500 pounds and it's quite depressing. They're constantly in pain and their lives are significantly shortened. I do judge those kinds of people, because the only way to get that obese is to eat horrible food in large quantities. I don't ever want to get like that. The truth is, "health at any size" is a lie. Being overweight doesn't make you less of a person, but it does hurt your body and gives you all kinds of health problems. I'm not going on an anti-fat rant as I'm kind of large myself, I'm just stating that it isn't healthy to be overweight.
Haskell
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That's not true. The majority of cases, yes, it's true. But there
is a fair percentage of people that can't help being that size.
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That Marshal Fangirl
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I really think to get 500-1000 pounds requires that. All of the documentaries I've watched have featured fast food, sweets, and salty/fatty stuff in ridiculous amounts. I know once I hit college I could gain hundreds of pounds from having free access to whatever I want to eat. Sure, metabolism has something to do with it but eating healthy in normal quantities doesn't make you get as big as the people I've seen.
KaydeeKrunk
The Late Great Turt
As a fat person myself, no. I know people do towards me and I couldn't care less. I'm happy and don't have any serious health conditions tied to my weight so people can think what they want. My weight is mostly hereditary and due to poor income throughout my youth. I've been a vegetarian for going on 10 years now as well but don't put effort into weight loss through exercise. I know there are people with horrible health consequences for their obesity but I harbor no negative feelings towards them. That's their business and I have no right to judge them.
Haskell
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documentaries which are made to make the people who watch them view negatively on fat people
those people on there are not the majority :|
Mr. Cat
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Never. Especially if the person is disabled. But there actually is no "especially" because the answer is still never. I will go off on anybody who fat shames irl. Why would somebody else's body offend you? Get over it.
(written by a "skinny" person)
(written by a "skinny" person)
RedTropicalPeachyFish
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First off, I'm Japanese.
What that means is, the standard(?) for the extent of fatness in my country has big difference from that in the US. People who'd never be considered fat in the US DO be considered fat in my country, in general.
Personally I see thick body type glamorous if I have to pick one. Like, Denise Bidot.♡ Body type that's popular in general in my country, like, slim long limbs, flat smooth belly etc. like Korean stars, I don't see what's so good about them honestly. But that's the measurement I use when I think about MYSELF, like how I want to be. Not, to measure other people.
Just, there's one thing I'd feel disgust to. It's coming from personal experience.
*sigh* So. I don't have specific disliking or anything to any body type of others, if it's skinny or fat, BESIDES incredibly obese from living as a whole trash doing nothing constructive to stay healthy.
What that means is, the standard(?) for the extent of fatness in my country has big difference from that in the US. People who'd never be considered fat in the US DO be considered fat in my country, in general.
Personally I see thick body type glamorous if I have to pick one. Like, Denise Bidot.♡ Body type that's popular in general in my country, like, slim long limbs, flat smooth belly etc. like Korean stars, I don't see what's so good about them honestly. But that's the measurement I use when I think about MYSELF, like how I want to be. Not, to measure other people.
Just, there's one thing I'd feel disgust to. It's coming from personal experience.
Someone who I met through this forum like 5 years ago and had been with me since then cheated on me. Y'know, so-called sexual acts through video call. And, haaaaah...*sigh* the person who he had been doing that with was, REAL. BIG. fat. Like, "what is this...? Is this, a... monstor...??" Not the extent fat. The extent he said it by himself "extreme obese".
And, not just because she being fat, but the reason that disgusted me was, that she's that fat because from... sitting around doing nothing in her room except for playing video games, watching anime, "erotic role playing" ONLY with immature boys like 15 or 16, doodling very bad porn drawings, "Tweet"ing, etc... for 36 years, throughout her life. Yes, she's 37 this year. I heard it from herself so I know it's true... What she "cook"s made me lightheaded. Only sprinkling either oil or butter on microwave dinner and that's it, when "mom" doesn't make dinner for her........
No any will to work, just leeching wealthy parents, living as a "child" for 36 years.
Her obese-ness was coming from that.
AND what made me honestly dumbfounded was, when I wrang him dry about how come he ended up doing like that, then he told me. That he's into big falt old woman dotting him, like a 3 or 4 years babby. And told me that just caring to him itself soley doesn't work, that it has to be a combination of real big fat body and treating him gently as though he's a 3 years old baby, whilst giving him sexual "treats".
He told me that that was why he cheated on me, because I'm not that fat at all.
And, not just because she being fat, but the reason that disgusted me was, that she's that fat because from... sitting around doing nothing in her room except for playing video games, watching anime, "erotic role playing" ONLY with immature boys like 15 or 16, doodling very bad porn drawings, "Tweet"ing, etc... for 36 years, throughout her life. Yes, she's 37 this year. I heard it from herself so I know it's true... What she "cook"s made me lightheaded. Only sprinkling either oil or butter on microwave dinner and that's it, when "mom" doesn't make dinner for her........
No any will to work, just leeching wealthy parents, living as a "child" for 36 years.
Her obese-ness was coming from that.
AND what made me honestly dumbfounded was, when I wrang him dry about how come he ended up doing like that, then he told me. That he's into big falt old woman dotting him, like a 3 or 4 years babby. And told me that just caring to him itself soley doesn't work, that it has to be a combination of real big fat body and treating him gently as though he's a 3 years old baby, whilst giving him sexual "treats".
He told me that that was why he cheated on me, because I'm not that fat at all.
*sigh* So. I don't have specific disliking or anything to any body type of others, if it's skinny or fat, BESIDES incredibly obese from living as a whole trash doing nothing constructive to stay healthy.
AndroGhostX
Gomen Ne...
Disabilities (and color of skin/race) different~ They shouldn't be shamed or looked down upon. That's just the way they were made and just proves how amazing the body and genetics are, unfortunately. Like if humans were a perfect and identical people especially in body, then we wouldn't be unique but I'm sure we would still judge.
Also unrelated to my reply above but, I will admit that as far as preferences go for romance and all, I do prefer a bigger body type despite being super small. That's just how I am, I can't help/change what I like xD
primandimproper
Transgender Trainwreck
Considering most of the people I know are either overweight because of genetics or because they're on heavy psychological medication, no I don't judge them for their size because I know they can't help it. Prior to being put on antipsychotics, I weighed 110lbs my whole life. After two years of being on those I weigh 150lbs, and the worst thing I eat is pasta. And I'm not going off my meds or gonna start eating salad at every meal. Instead, I cut sweets out and started walking everywhere possible.
If you can help being that way, I'm certainly going to worry and feel a bit resentful towards you. If I see you dieting and you fail: oh well, I'm not going to hate because to be honest dieting is kinda hard. But if I'm closer to an overweight or obese person who can help it, I'm going to support you every step of the way.
If you can't help it, I feel genuinely so sorry for you. I honestly wouldn't know what to do but hope you try to get surgery (gastric bypass and such) for your own health.
If you can't help it, I feel genuinely so sorry for you. I honestly wouldn't know what to do but hope you try to get surgery (gastric bypass and such) for your own health.
idiotdoomspiral
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only morbidly obese bothers me. it really isn't pleasant to look at.
Haskell
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That's like saying "only faces with third-degree burns bother me. It isn't pleasant to look at."
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