Mafia Fuchsia Mafia | Day 1

[Dolby]

Was it really an oops moment for Gavin? I can understand it might just be wording mishap but sometimes you can slip.

On the basis of people trying to distance from each other : we got Gavin-Dolby and ILoveYou-Dolby.

I also have another theory: If Evan is scum, the mafia team is now probably panicking on replacement if evan gets modkilled. I wanna try to vote Evan since he might be modkilled anyway.

Imo, even if he was referring to his hypothetical teammates, that’s still awkward wording even from that perspective. If we assume it was a slip it’s still awkward

Evan is likely to be replaced given Calamity came in and Ness publicly stated to add him to the replace list. Evan lynch tells us quite literally nothing and is really unfair to anybody who would replace in the slot

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So yeah, not a slip

 

[Biancasbotique]

But for honest opinion, I just cannot see a Dolby-ILoveYou Mafia team up this time around. If anything, I would say it's either Dolby or ILoveYou thats mafia.

Gavin is 50/50 so far, I could see him Scum with either Dolby or ILoveYou

Dedenne seems cautious which I know is her typical play but i have a feeling she could be scum and is laying low.

MapleSilver is 50/50, he had that townie tone when questioning Dolby/ILY interaction

As for Evan, as I said I have no qualm lynching inactives so I hope he posts soon.

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and I must say that voting via PM gives mafia great advantage. We should at least see who voted for who at the end of the round

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Imo, even if he was referring to his hypothetical teammates, that’s still awkward wording even from that perspective. If we assume it was a slip it’s still awkward

Evan is likely to be replaced given Calamity came in and Ness publicly stated to add him to the replace list. Evan lynch tells us quite literally nothing and is really unfair to anybody who would replace in the slot

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So yeah, not a slip

So who are you thinking of voting? is it ILY?

 

[Dolby]

Yeah, I’m thinking I’ll vote ILY

 

[Ghostkid]

I already voted

 

[Dolby]

I already voted

Who'd you vote for?

 

[Ghostkid]

Who'd you vote for?

I aint telling.

 

[Biancasbotique]

I aint telling.

I think I know who. Starts with a D right?
















Dedenne?

 

[Ghostkid]

I think I know who. Starts with a D right?
















Dedenne?

No mood to speak. I speak when ready

 

[iLoveYou]

On the basis of people trying to distance from each other : we got Gavin-Dolby and ILoveYou-Dolby.

I also have another theory: If Evan is scum, the mafia team is now probably panicking on replacement if evan gets modkilled. I wanna try to vote Evan since he might be modkilled anyway.

For the people worried that me & Dolby are distancing themselves, at this point I can 100% see either him or I being lynched. So we're not distancing ourselves anymore because one of us will be out of the game.

If that is your theory, the only person who " panicked " was Dolby and even posted that he wanted CalamityBot to replace in for Evan. I don't know if I see Evan being Mafia and letting himself just get modkilled. I can see that coming from someone who has a " boring " Townie role and not caring. Unless Evan is using the Mafia chat to discuss why he can't play.

Just FYI guys, when / if it comes down to it, don't be afraid to lynch Dolby because you guys 100% don't need him. Last game it showed that you guys wanted to keep some sort of leader around but you guys are perfectly capable of figuring things out by yourselves.

I'll deal with that big post in the morning but 100% Dolby should be lynched. At this point he's still trying to get his only real opposition out again while pocketing everyone else by saying " hmm you're definitely a Town lean ". He didn't even discuss the possibility of me being Town being incorrect on him, yet when Bianca said she thinks he's Mafia he stated that she is definitely Town who has an incorrect read. If he were really Town he would be attempting to actually play around with the possibility that I am Town too, to get the most accurate lynch done, instead of blindly willing to just lynch me just because he now thinks I'm a scum lean. He hasn't been pressing me or MapleSilver in any way in the thread yet came to the conclusion it has to be us two ? When Dolby is Town he's very active trying to piece stuff together to get the most accurate reads. So it's clear he's just trying to clear the way again so he can have an easy game.

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Here is where I stand on the game:

Gavin: He's my strongest Town lean up to now, for the reasons I posted ( rejecting a Town lean from someone when usually Mafia would be happy and take it ). When I saw Dolby jump on Gavin at the beginning saying he's giving him a slight Town lean based on two posts, it really felt like Dolby was trying to buddy up to Gavin. He did that last game to avoid getting Gavin on his back and starting a lynch against him. Dolby is doing that typical thing where he gives everyone a Town lean hoping they will like it and not see him as a threat.

Dedenne: Basically earlier in the game, I noticed that she was posting a lot more freely compared to the last game where she was Mafia. In that game she made it obvious she hates being Mafia because there's a lot of pressure. So if she were Mafia again, I can see her being a lot more careful in her posts and really limiting herself not to post. I can see a change of tone compared to when she was Mafia. She would be my slight Town lean.

Bianca: The fact that she and I both think Dolby is Mafia and she's getting an instant Town lean from him nonetheless comes off very suspicious. I would definitely keep an eye open to a potential pairing of Bianca and Dolby. Otherwise I think Dolby is pulling the classic move of giving her a Town lean in hopes of gaining her confidence. I would take the risk of placing her at a higher Null than Maple at this point.

MapleSilver: I'm not sure where i stand with them. On one hand they're definitely participating in the discussion to some extent in questioning whether me and Dolby can be linked so that shows they're trying to figure things out to a certain extent. If Dolby flips Mafia, I can see potential distancing in the thread between those two. So I would definitely keep an eye on Maple as well.

So at the end of the day I can see Dolby being Mafia alongside maybe Bianca or Maple ?

That leaves Dolby, and you guys know my opinion on him.

 

[iLoveYou]

Notes on Dolby:

- He only made his opinions of me being his scum lean after I called him out.

- He only built a case on Dedenne being potentially Town after I called him out on his lack of connection ( I built a case at the last minute as Mafia to fix my mistake in front of the thread )

- He's again giving Town leans freely in hopes that people will like it and be okay with him and not go after him. Just like he did last game.

- If you guys choose to believe him, PAY ATTENTION TO THE MISLYNCH. DO NOT LET HIM SLIDE BY AGAIN. Last game the Mafia silenced me very early because of how right I was on Dolby. If Dolby were Town he would know that I always die Night One or Night Two at the latest, so wasting a lynch on me doesn't even help Town because it's doing the Mafia's job for them, during the Day.

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Point two is in reference to Tina's game by the way. Basically I called a player out as Mafia btnnever built a case against them. Once someone called me out on it I had to immediately build a case at the last minute to try to fix the mistake in front of the thread.

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Also I find it alarming that he didn't even consider the possibility that me & Dedenne could be a potential pairing. I practically pushed him to give a Town lean on her and he didn't even challenge me in thinking I may be Mafia trying to save a teammate. He literally just went with it and gave her the Town lean. That's obviously someone who is Mafia who knows which players are Town to be willing to jist give the Town lean away.

 

[iLoveYou]

Oh also, Dolby, your point on me not concluding on Gavin's post of " mafia team " is so flawed because

A) everyone active at the time cleared it up for me, so I wasn't leaving room for people to keep having doubts since they ALREADY FIGURED he meant players playing the game. So clearly I was asking for myself only and leaving it open to myswlf only since everyone else already posted their opinions clearly without hesitation.

The reason why I went ahead and asked Gavin what he meant by " player on the Mafia team " is because at the end of the day, I can't be 100% sure who else is Town so I want to make sure I'm making the best decision. I'm not the one giving Town leans so freely left and right here, like you.

B) If you were Town you'd be smart enough to know that I do that as Town for the reasons stated since all you have to do is look at my last game as Town where I always posted stuff that caught my eye but never gave conclusions. Instead you're calling it bad Town play but still trying to get me lynched. M A F I A

C) You're trying to use small details to paint an image of me being Mafia and that's what Mafia needs to do. Use the small stuff and make it look bigger than it actually is. It shouldn't matter at all whether I posted a conclusion on something like that because I already got my answer from Gavin and everyone else was already 100% sure what he meant. So whether I post a conclusion or not, it was made clear what he meant and my conclusion would have changed nothing.

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So ya, at this point Dolby needs to be lynched 100%.

 

[Antonio]

Day 1 ends in 8 hours

Everyone is required to vote. Direct message me it through the forums or Discord. You will be mod killed if you don't vote. Reminder that it has to be a person not no lynch.

 

[dedenne]

My teeth hurt ;_; damn braces

Hello darkness my old friend

Reading up, sorry I wasn?t online last night, I was at a friends. I?ll post my thoughts when I?m done

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Was it really an oops moment for Gavin? I can understand it might just be wording mishap but sometimes you can slip.

On the basis of people trying to distance from each other : we got Gavin-Dolby and ILoveYou-Dolby.

I also have another theory: If Evan is scum, the mafia team is now probably panicking on replacement if evan gets modkilled. I wanna try to vote Evan since he might be modkilled anyway.

Why would you vote someone if they?re gonna be modkilled? :thinking:

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Reads

iLoveYou
Null/Slight tl- I’m slightly townleaning ily purely because of her saying “You haven’t thought of pairing me and Dedenne” or something like that. I dont see ily saying this as scum tbh.

Dolby-null. He’s half acting like a leader half playing like hunger games where he was scum. So idk what to think.

MapleSilver
-null. I don’t even remember what they’ve posted tbh.

BiancasBoutique null/slight tl. Acting like her normal stuff, but I need more info stuff to make a proper read.

Ghostkid-null. Posting fluff but something seems .. off

Dedenne- who is this human

I think that’s it? Evans practically non existent so i’ll Just let him get mod killed. If I had to lynch someone right now, i’d Probably vote Dolby, for reasons ily has stated.

 

[Dolby]

I'll deal with that big post in the morning but 100% Dolby should be lynched. At this point he's still trying to get his only real opposition out again while pocketing everyone else by saying " hmm you're definitely a Town lean ". He didn't even discuss the possibility of me being Town being incorrect on him, yet when Bianca said she thinks he's Mafia he stated that she is definitely Town who has an incorrect read. If he were really Town he would be attempting to actually play around with the possibility that I am Town too, to get the most accurate lynch done, instead of blindly willing to just lynch me just because he now thinks I'm a scum lean. He hasn't been pressing me or MapleSilver in any way in the thread yet came to the conclusion it has to be us two ? When Dolby is Town he's very active trying to piece stuff together to get the most accurate reads. So it's clear he's just trying to clear the way again so he can have an easy game.

Ok, BS that my townleans are unsubstantiated. I have come out with pretty solid evidence from past play to indicate that both are probably town because they are playing differently than they have as mafia. Bull**** that I haven't been pressureing you either, and while I haven't stated until now that I explicitly sus Silver, I do have to admit that given that I she makes the most sense to being your teammate. Bianca and Dedenne are both acting differently from their scumplay, and frankly giving Ghost a solid townlean is not something that I see you doing with your own scummate. She's made three posts, and honestly that's hardly enough to come to a significant conclusion D1 or make a large, cohesive case.

- He only built a case on Dedenne being potentially Town after I called him out on his lack of connection ( I built a case at the last minute as Mafia to fix my mistake in front of the thread )

Listen up here, and I don't like that I have to state this twice, I even predicted that you would run the case against me since I happened to have to post it after you accused avoiding addressing her specificly. I case for Dedenne being town is quite obvious to me because I was able to observe her mafia playstyle last game and know how she acts as mafia. Between before my 9 AM post, that last one which I had the time to put much effort into formatting (getting multiple quotes), Dedenne had posted twice and had not yet demonsrated those deviations. And until I got home, I didn't have the time or resources to reference multiple games.

- He's again giving Town leans freely in hopes that people will like it and be okay with him and not go after him. Just like he did last game.

If you would happen to actually read and value anything I'd say, you'd also happen to notice that everyone of my townleans has significant evidence behind them. This is just a straight up lie

Also I find it alarming that he didn't even consider the possibility that me & Dedenne could be a potential pairing. I practically pushed him to give a Town lean on her and he didn't even challenge me in thinking I may be Mafia trying to save a teammate. He literally just went with it and gave her the Town lean. That's obviously someone who is Mafia who knows which players are Town to be willing to jist give the Town lean away.

You didn't push me to townlean her, if I was mafia I'd have all the liberty to read her in anyway I wanted. You were just holding it up against me because I showed familiarity with how Dedenne plays as town and mafia and used me not commenting during school hours on her play to hold up noncontribution against me. Moreover, I have substantial evidence to think she's town regardless of other players alignments.

Thinking that you're a teammate saving her is honestly confusing, her, and nobody really, had even begun to pressure her. There's no mafia benefit to drawing attention to a teammate there

Also LMAO, she only addresses my GK point because she's scum and she knows it

Oh also, Dolby, your point on me not concluding on Gavin's post of " mafia team " is so flawed because

A) everyone active at the time cleared it up for me, so I wasn't leaving room for people to keep having doubts since they ALREADY FIGURED he meant players playing the game. So clearly I was asking for myself only and leaving it open to myswlf only since everyone else already posted their opinions clearly without hesitation.

Yes, future actions clear past actions. No, that doesn't prove that you were asking for yourself. When you made the post you left your opinion open to interpretation, and people telling their own opinions doesn't clear you

My vote is solidified

 

[Ghostkid]

Im trying to think about this... :/

 

[iLoveYou]

Gavin, think of the mislynches last time and what Dolby did. It's the exact same thing going on AGAIN. He has to play harder this time because he knew if I got Town again I would not let it slide. You need to get rid of Dolby or you are mislynching on Town.

Dolby isn't even making an effort to say he'll be mislynched as Town. He's only defending his actions and not trying to piece things together or wonder if he is actually about to lynch Town. He does not care who he is mislynching on. AGAIN.

There is no reason for him to think I am Mafia except because he is and needs me out so he can manipulate everyone AGAIN.

 

[Ghostkid]

Gavin, think of the mislynches last time and what Dolby did. It's the exact same thing going on AGAIN. He has to play harder this time because he knew if I got Town again I would not let it slide. You need to get rid of Dolby or you are mislynching on Town.

Dolby isn't even making an effort to say he'll be mislynched as Town. He's only defending his actions and not trying to piece things together or wonder if he is actually about to lynch Town. He does not care who he is mislynching on. AGAIN.

There is no reason for him to think I am Mafia except because he is and needs me out so he can manipulate everyone AGAIN.

Makes sense i actually voted him

 

[Dolby]

Gavin, think of the mislynches last time and what Dolby did. It's the exact same thing going on AGAIN. He has to play harder this time because he knew if I got Town again I would not let it slide. You need to get rid of Dolby or you are mislynching on Town.

Dolby isn't even making an effort to say he'll be mislynched as Town. He's only defending his actions and not trying to piece things together or wonder if he is actually about to lynch Town. He does not care who he is mislynching on. AGAIN.

There is no reason for him to think I am Mafia except because he is and needs me out so he can manipulate everyone AGAIN.

This isn’t distancing, it came to soon and to direct after I said that Gavin/ILY is unlikely. This pretty much has to be intentional to throw me and town off

Your case has devolved to an extremely basic form, you are arguing that you are town, and because I’m so obviously wrong I must be mafia. It’s rhe most basic form of appeal

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Makes sense i actually voted him

Figured you had considering your anti-me rant towards the start of the game

 

[Ghostkid]

Hello darkness my old friend

Reading up, sorry I wasn’t online last night, I was at a friends. I’ll post my thoughts when I’m done

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Why would you vote someone if they’re gonna be modkilled? :thinking:

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Reads

iLoveYou
Null/Slight tl- I’m slightly townleaning ily purely because of her saying “You haven’t thought of pairing me and Dedenne” or something like that. I dont see ily saying this as scum tbh.

Dolby-null. He’s half acting like a leader half playing like hunger games where he was scum. So idk what to think.

MapleSilver
-null. I don’t even remember what they’ve posted tbh.

BiancasBoutique null/slight tl. Acting like her normal stuff, but I need more info stuff to make a proper read.

Ghostkid-null. Posting fluff but something seems .. off

Dedenne- who is this human

I think that’s it? Evans practically non existent so i’ll Just let him get mod killed. If I had to lynch someone right now, i’d Probably vote Dolby, for reasons ily has stated.

Could you care to explain what seems off so i can clear any possible misconceptions

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Hello darkness my old friend

Reading up, sorry I wasn?t online last night, I was at a friends. I?ll post my thoughts when I?m done

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Why would you vote someone if they?re gonna be modkilled? :thinking:

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Reads

iLoveYou
Null/Slight tl- I?m slightly townleaning ily purely because of her saying ?You haven?t thought of pairing me and Dedenne? or something like that. I dont see ily saying this as scum tbh.

Dolby-null. He?s half acting like a leader half playing like hunger games where he was scum. So idk what to think.

MapleSilver
-null. I don?t even remember what they?ve posted tbh.

BiancasBoutique null/slight tl. Acting like her normal stuff, but I need more info stuff to make a proper read.

Ghostkid-null. Posting fluff but something seems .. off

Dedenne- who is this human

I think that?s it? Evans practically non existent so i?ll Just let him get mod killed. If I had to lynch someone right now, i?d Probably vote Dolby, for reasons ily has stated.

Could you care to explain what seems off so i can clear any possible misconceptions

 

[iLoveYou]

Okay.

1) I left my post open when asking Gavin what he meant because I'm not going to influence his answer. I want his answwr to come from him and not from my post. Stop focusing on small details like that to paint an image that I'm Mafia. Dolby as Town would be a lot smarter than that. Dolby as Mafia makes very bad cases like that. We have seen it so much last game where Dolby as Mafia needs to focus on small details to get people mislynched.

2) No, Dolby, you were not active in getting your Town leans out there until you had to. Dolby as Town does not care about time. The moment he sees somethingn he posts it right away to help clear things out and narrow stuff down. He had the time to post other things but not what he thought of players and how they're currently playing ? Ya the last time he did that was as M a f i a. Go look into last game, even when I'm Town I don't willingly hand out Town leans in the thread. But that's a difference in his gameplay for sure. If his case for Dedenne being Town was obvious to him like he said, he definitely didn't try much to make it known and quickly sneaked it into his large post. Not as hard as he did with leaning Town on Gavin.

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Oh I'm not saying you're Mafia because you're wrong lols. I'm saying you're Mafia because of the way you're playing this game Dolby.