Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

I don't follow what you're trying to say. If you mean I didn't answer your question, I was answering it in the next paragraph. Unless I misunderstood the question?

@dedenne Anything more controversial you had on your mind that you feel comfortable airing right now?

Also Endless god bless you my man but I forgot how much your posts read like the terms and conditions sometimes. I hope that isn't an offensive thing to say? If it is I'm really sorry and mods can smite me, I don't think it's bad at all, I just find it funny.
I just don't want to be the reason I messed up everything for everyone.
And yes I agree with you and Ronishy, something is different this game I look back and I'm second guessing everything. And that's not me.

For better or worst, the strongest I see, even though super thin foil is glow's so I will cast my vote.
Hang in there Ace, this is your lucky 21. Do your best :)
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You think it glow.. I'm on a similar page to her on reads
here's quotes of people willing to jump on the dedenne wagon asap vs. votes:
Dedenne [5]: Ace Marvel, glow, Arstotzkan, epona, Ronishy
Antonio [3]: Endless, dedenne, Tensu
mogyay [2]: Aerious, Vaoltairenism
AmazonEvan [1]: guav@, Antonio
Ronishy [1]: MyLifeisCake

@epona why did you swap last min if you thought she was town?

Dedenne I guess given our small amount of info and my lack of townread on her at all, I'd be fine with it if nothing else crops up? I'd like to look for someone else though with the time we've got. @dedenne Who would you lynch right now?
Epona felt like she was thinking aloud which I liked but also I felt like she white knighted Dedenne. Jumping in to her defense before Dedenne even got the chance to reply isn't sitting well with me.
and why vote for dedenne if she was null to you? why "be fine" with that? why not try to weed out scum? why advocate killing a townie for ONE tl?
 
CAN WE ALL STOP ONE SECOND AND LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND! WE ARE NOT IN ETERNAL DAY ANYMORE!
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Ok, I'm going to be making a case regarding Glow. First, I'm going to do an ISO:
oh no this started
This quote doesn't really add much to the discussion besides imply that they have forgotten about the game.

NOOO

can you clarify on this [what i quoted] here, who was giving red flags? also i dunno what the context of the moot part is or what caused it to become moot (was it because nothing else was rly happening, or.)
Glow wants Kat to point out who is giving red flags. This was on page #7 but Kat mentioned the quotes themselves were on page #2. "I am assuming they were asking for clarification due to

i mean it's not memeing to explain ur post tho...
I don't see any explanations of posts on page #2 but I do see Aerious meming, which is what Kat said to the above quote and how it bothered them. Meming shouldn't be alignment indicating due to the game just started.

I don't see where glow is coming from either.

day is too short tbh :(

i think i know mafia but like if i case them it'll be a total of two sentences long ^_^
Why didn't you just state it right away instead of implying it, this implication doesn't add anything but filler. It feels like you were looking for a reaction before properly pushing.

I am also curious why guava would like this post. ( )
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(it's dedenne)

mostly because all their posts seem to express varying degrees of hesitancy. it comes across as though they don't want to say anything controversial and then i think the "oh no there isn't much to read after i was gone" seemed kinda strange to say when i think there / was / stuff going on it was just minimal, i don't see how that sort of commentary rly helps anything and it seems more like an obvious statement than a sentiment that came out of disappointment or w/e
Here's your push for Dede, doesn't look like 2 sentences. I also do not agree with this reasoning, being hesitant isn't really AI. Dede's explanation explained my concerns the best:

yeah i do get ur point my posts are quite hesistant, a lot of the time i just dont know what to say.
and i am scared to say something controversial bc i dont want to get scumread and mislynched, altho i will try and say more of my thoughts since that will help give the thread more content.
and as for the there isnt much too read, i woke up and read like 1 and a half pages? i went to sleep expecting like 5 so it was kinda a shock. and yeah there was some stuff going on hence why i said there wasnt much, instead of there wasnt anything.
RIP, you beautiful angel.

i think kat/antonio are town, i actually was wary of kat til the antonio bit and i was thinking along the same lines in regards to Antonio

but i think the line about memeing is confusing and don't understand it so an explanation would be nice (that's where my uneasiness began)

aerious/epona seemed more hesitant on antonio and listed ness as an example why, i mean fair enough but i don't think antonio and ness have similar play styles/experience levels at all

endless seems to be guiding / instructive in his posts and i want to express that yall should be cautious about that.
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what is your reasoning on antonio?

what makes kat's read bad
These are their reads.

T: Kat/Antonio
?: Aerious/Epona
SL: Endless

I think these provided a good perspective but I haven't seen much from them after this post during day 1. What worries me is that 2hrs later, they came online and voted but didn't provide any other posts during that period.

~good morning~
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a very towny post, i feel like ronishy has had pretty solid posts and idk why they were a lynching candidate tbh
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hi, i was taking a nap and didn't want to die for not voting ^_^
Day 2 post, they stated that someone's post was very towny but failed to elaborate on it. It's filler.

i hate this

!!!!
Another opinion without a proper elaboration. It's filler.

is this the 'rebuttal' everyone was asking me to respond to. i don't really know what i'm supposed to respond to here. like the first point is really the only point that was made in defense of dedenne, and whether or not someone is hesitant about feeling rusty doesn't say anything about their alignment?? like how does that mean they're town in either scenario.

i mean, i'm biased because i've never liked the devil's advocate type of posts, they always come off as chainsaw-y. like pls just let me push on the person i was pushing on because the more pressure they feel the better.

as for if i actually think epona was chainsawing, nah idk at this point because i think dedenne's reply to me (specifically the "nervous about getting mislynched" part was not that bad. i mean it wasn't enough to like, 180 my opinion but i could see how if you're uncertain about dedenne, it could make you townread/lean them.

(this was the first thing epona said after dedenne's reply)
This is a well thought-out post but Endless has a response towards the above quote:

Epona's defence of hesitance I didn't even think was that great a point, and not what I wanted you to respond to.

I'm going to reword epona's point to drive it home.

Here is your scumread of dedenne:
The bolded portion is the relevant portion.

Now, here is the quote you're talking about with that sentence:

In isolation, your point is fine. However, epona juxtaposed that line of dedenne's with the one right before she went to bed:

Now, her "expecting there to be more to read" seems incredibly reasonable in line with her not being able to "wait to have loads of pages to catch up on".
Moreover, disappointment is also reasonable in this context. She stated an expectation that was absolutely reasonable and awoke for it not to be met.

This is the point I wanted you to respond to, not the subjective hesitancy issue.
I have nothing to say besides I'm waiting to hear from Glow come back.

However, this is all they have posted as of writing this post.

So, why do I think Glow is sus? For a few reasons:
1. Her early-day opinions in day 2 lack any substance behind it and if there is some, she failed to elaborate on them when questioned. I understand having thoughts about people actions but why aren't you elaborating on why you think that way? Just stating your opinions with reasons don't contribute anything to the game and appears as filler.
2. She was online during EOD but wasn't active in the thread like at all. You had time to come in and vote but you failed to provide any thoughts on anything else at the time. It just feels like you were watching the game.
3. All of her worthwhile posts are opinions and I don't feel like she took the measures to properly push on those opinions. If anything, she just posted her thoughts and left.

Regarding those 3 points and my opinions stated above on the ISO, I believe Glow is scum.
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CAN WE ALL STOP ONE SECOND AND LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND! WE ARE NOT IN ETERNAL DAY ANYMORE!
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Can you add something worthwhile, this is just filler. What are your current thoughts on everything?
 
I wasn't all too surprised to see a volt kill ngl? Their last post had a really genuine tone. Though I would have imagined an Endless kill would have been better. Someone who had no suspicion on him who was contributing to thread.
Also yeah Epona's by far my strongest townread at this point.

@Endless idk that definitely felt like it formed fast. No one was talking about Antonio at all for most of the thread in any sort of negative light (he was only being townread, at most), and then it went from that to lynch candidate in the final hour. It wasn't that the votes themselves were fast - it was the whiplash in mentality that gave me system shock.

@whoever mentioned it yeah I didn't like what Antonio was doing with RNG voting. Gave me hella scum!Ness vibes. I didn't particularly scumread him but I wasn't particularly scumreading anyone so honestly anything to cling to was at least a justification to lynch.

All in all though, I think yesterday's lynch was kind of destined to be bad. We had no leads, and idk about yall, but I at least was struggling to find a scumread at all. I didn't super scumread Dedenne but it was the best idea I had at the time.

@Aerious You had some questions for me, right? Let's chat
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I think multiple people should do this, rather than just one. That's really the only way that the biases would get unfiltered. But here's my take at least:
  1. Day starts, most of it memeing
  2. Antonio makes a post about RNGing a vote, lands on Endless. Also asks about the setup. Aerious replies that she would not like Endless voted off on D1 and that she doesn't think Antonio should be townlocked for asking the set-up question. A back-and-forth between the two ensure.
  3. People start chiming in that it's a pointless back-and-forth, but people give thoughts on it. I slight TL Antonio for the RNG, Endless TLs Antonio for a different reason and says mine's based on faulty logic.
  4. glow and epona back and forth a little
  5. Approaching EoD there's no clear person who to vote off. Antonio legitimately suggests RNG, No One Likes This, but Antonio says it's the only alternative he can think of given there that inactives aren't an option
  6. There's a push for kicking Rosh, which is met with no resistance really, so people back off. Then there's a push for kicking amazonevan or mog. I and Antonio express being against kicking mog in particular, giving her a slight TL. People don't follow the read.
  7. Aerious suggests kicking inactives. This is met with A Lot Of Controversy
  8. Endless suggests kicking either Antonio or Ace. Antonio's the only one that gets traction between the two
  9. The thread's basically panicking at this point, but a few didn't like how quickly sentiments changed on Antonio so we swapped and pushed a dedenne train.
  10. Neither Antonio or dedenne are doing self-pres, both believe they're going to be the ones to die
  11. dedenne ends up being the one voted off
Thanks for this summary; from what you said, I would probably be sus of the person who switched the train to dedenne initially but that may be a smoothbrain take given that I haven't read up a ton yet. If dedenne got hammered I'd probably tr the person who hammered since I doubt scum would stick their necks out like that this early

Antonio is sounding pretty typical "acts scummy as town" meta to me tbh; idk if I'd sus him over this
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personally i don't think speculation like this is useful
firstly, what is the definition of a strong player? it suggests that volt isn't whatever you're defining as a strong player, which undermines volt's ability. i know them to be a competent mafia player and this comes across as theatric 'hmmmm.... why would volt be the kill.... hmmm... i couldn't possibly know...' to me

secondly, literally any of the players that you're pinning as 'strong town contenders' could be mafia
from what I'm reading of this day so far I am liking epona's thought processes, esp this right here
 
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1. Her early-day opinions in day 2 lack any substance behind it and if there is some, she failed to elaborate on them when questioned. I understand having thoughts about people actions but why aren't you elaborating on why you think that way? Just stating your opinions with reasons don't contribute anything to the game and appears as filler.
without reasons**
 
The wagon did not develop “extremely quickly.” Endless votes Antonio first, and then both me and dedenne (town) voted and explained our reasoning within a minute. The two of us could not have influenced each other due to the close proximity of our posts, especially since everything was unfolding in those hasty final minutes. My post that you quoted basically sums of the sketchy behavior I’m talking about. I wasn’t able to elaborate more then because I was pressed for time. The rng vote -> just kidding -> rng vote proves that he was indeed serious the first time around. It also proves that he cares a lot about his appearance and the opinions of other players. Both his rng vote and inactive vote proposals are very neutral-sounding attempts to gather everybody to vote off a townie. They both do not require any actual analysis or deduction. Antonio wouldn’t look bad after lynching in either of these proposed scenarios because it can be blamed on mere chance.

This post is giving me really bad vibes, esp bolded. Although I agree with italics I am sensing some ulterior motive for Tensu bringing this up (namely, to make Antonio look bad).
 
Ok, I'm going to be making a case regarding Glow. First, I'm going to do an ISO:
This quote doesn't really add much to the discussion besides imply that they have forgotten about the game.


Glow wants Kat to point out who is giving red flags. This was on page #7 but Kat mentioned the quotes themselves were on page #2. "I am assuming they were asking for clarification due to


I don't see any explanations of posts on page #2 but I do see Aerious meming, which is what Kat said to the above quote and how it bothered them. Meming shouldn't be alignment indicating due to the game just started.

I don't see where glow is coming from either.


Why didn't you just state it right away instead of implying it, this implication doesn't add anything but filler. It feels like you were looking for a reaction before properly pushing.

I am also curious why guava would like this post. ( )
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Here's your push for Dede, doesn't look like 2 sentences. I also do not agree with this reasoning, being hesitant isn't really AI. Dede's explanation explained my concerns the best:


RIP, you beautiful angel.


These are their reads.

T: Kat/Antonio
?: Aerious/Epona
SL: Endless

I think these provided a good perspective but I haven't seen much from them after this post during day 1. What worries me is that 2hrs later, they came online and voted but didn't provide any other posts during that period.


Day 2 post, they stated that someone's post was very towny but failed to elaborate on it. It's filler.


Another opinion without a proper elaboration. It's filler.


This is a well thought-out post but Endless has a response towards the above quote:


I have nothing to say besides I'm waiting to hear from Glow come back.

However, this is all they have posted as of writing this post.

So, why do I think Glow is sus? For a few reasons:
1. Her early-day opinions in day 2 lack any substance behind it and if there is some, she failed to elaborate on them when questioned. I understand having thoughts about people actions but why aren't you elaborating on why you think that way? Just stating your opinions with reasons don't contribute anything to the game and appears as filler.
2. She was online during EOD but wasn't active in the thread like at all. You had time to come in and vote but you failed to provide any thoughts on anything else at the time. It just feels like you were watching the game.
3. All of her worthwhile posts are opinions and I don't feel like she took the measures to properly push on those opinions. If anything, she just posted her thoughts and left.

Regarding those 3 points and my opinions stated above on the ISO, I believe Glow is scum.
this is fine and dandy, but all this does is make kat look scummier in my eyes. i never said not to meme, i said i don't want one liners with people agreeing and parroting what others say. kat entirely dodged explaining what glow asked. idk how meme banter on pg 2 was a red flag when it wasn't addressed by me until pg 3

volt's death and posts need to be analyzed for something on d2. also cake was the first person to address looking into volt's death for analysis

This post is giving me really bad vibes, esp bolded. Although I agree with italics I am sensing some ulterior motive for Tensu bringing this up (namely, to make Antonio look bad).
when i read this i thought it was flat out parroting what endless said w/ maybe 2 different points. same thing with hopping on the antonio wagon originally when endless mentioned it yesterday
 
this is fine and dandy, but all this does is make kat look scummier in my eyes. i never said not to meme, i said i don't want one liners with people agreeing and parroting what others say. kat entirely dodged explaining what glow asked. idk how meme banter on pg 2 was a red flag when it wasn't addressed by me until pg 3

volt's death and posts need to be analyzed for something on d2. also cake was the first person to address looking into volt's death for analysis
I'm not 100% fully aware on the sus behind Kat, could you summarize why you think they are sus? Personally, I don't see it and when I was reading your posts last page, I was confused due to this darn headache.

Also, do you think glow is scum or not?
 
I'm not 100% fully aware on the sus behind Kat, could you summarize why you think they are sus? Personally, I don't see it and when I was reading your posts last page, I was confused due to this darn headache.

Also, do you think glow is scum or not?
i already did and i’m not in the mood to tl;dr

no, i don’t think glow is scum. she feigns anxiety and ignorance. she also typically posts like this as town anyways, completely mia. i also think it’s highly improbable that scum led both of the wagons on d1. i think the people who need to be under the microscope are those who hopped on the wagon — specifically those who think it was t v t and voted anyways. ofc she can defend herself, this is just my opinion thus far
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the most anti-town thing thus far in this game is the fact that people voted for those they think were null/town
 
i already did and i’m not in the mood to tl;dr

no, i don’t think glow is scum. she feigns anxiety and ignorance. she also typically posts like this as town anyways, completely mia. i also think it’s highly improbable that scum led both of the wagons on d1. i think the people who need to be under the microscope are those who hopped on the wagon — specifically those who think it was t v t and voted anyways. ofc she can defend herself, this is just my opinion thus far
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the most anti-town thing thus far in this game is the fact that people voted for those they think were null/town
Regarding Glows meta, she's usually does way more than this as town. I don't see how Glows behavior is ignorance/anxiety. If anything, it goes against her meta. We must have different perspectives of her meta.

I also don't like how you responded to my glow post with "that's fine and dandy" like what I posted didn't matter. It feels like you are trying to turn my read on glow into more sus on Kat.
 
First portion of relevance (about half way through the day) was Antonio suggesting to lynch by rng. This was quickly shot down, and Antonio claimed it was a joke. (This by itself isn't very relevant, but it comes up again later.)

The next portion of relevance was a huge scrap between Antonio and Aerious. The premise of it was Antonio asking Aerious about mafia having fakeclaims. The situation proceeded into a misunderstanding when Aerious stated that Antonio shouldn't be townread for potentially dumbtelling here, and Antonio interpretted it as "he might've faked his content."
The whole saga went entirely too long, and you should be glad you don't have to read it. (Important to note that Kat tried to resolve the misunderstanding in the middle, by pointing out to Antonio that what he was saying about Aerious didn't track.

The game then went into a content deadzone, where a lot of players stated that they didn't really have reads.
One such post by Dedenne was pushed by glow, which started the first serious lynch track.

Around the same time, some people pushed Ronishy for not having many unique opinions. (AKA mostly followed other people's opinions.) This wagon never really gained that much traction and more or less died out.

Next a bunch of people (Antonio, guava, Aerious to name a few) suggested lynching an inactive. (AKA you, or mog.)
I (and some others) shot this down hard and ultimately prevented it from happening.

Antonio went on to ask everyone to guess a number between 1 and 10, then voted for volt when he volt picked 6.
Essentially, he went back to rnging a lynch after stating that he'd only done it as a joke earlier.
This rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and a wagon formed on Antonio. (This happened in the last hour before EOD)

A concern that the wagon on Antonio had grown too fast arose, and people essentially CFD onto dedenne, who flipped town.

Volt was killed during the night phase.
Ngl, not shoving my own opinions in there was difficult, but there you go.
Thank you for this succinct summary; I think from what I'm reading from you and others' summaries that glow, guava, and Ronishy should be looked into more. I am always leery of people who sheep early on but there's also not a ton to go off of d1 usually. Glow bringing up dedenne as a lynch is not necessarily the most sus thing ever but it does kinda look bad. Guava kind of seems all over the place.
 
Epona's defence of hesitance I didn't even think was that great a point, and not what I wanted you to respond to.

I'm going to reword epona's point to drive it home.

Here is your scumread of dedenne:
The bolded portion is the relevant portion.

Now, here is the quote you're talking about with that sentence:

In isolation, your point is fine. However, epona juxtaposed that line of dedenne's with the one right before she went to bed:

Now, her "expecting there to be more to read" seems incredibly reasonable in line with her not being able to "wait to have loads of pages to catch up on".
Moreover, disappointment is also reasonable in this context. She stated an expectation that was absolutely reasonable and awoke for it not to be met.

This is the point I wanted you to respond to, not the subjective hesitancy issue.


i mean.. i also read that line from dedenne, i went through most or all dedennes posts. i'm not sure why that would read as town either?

to me it felt like they were annotating their entrances / exits which always reads as stilted to me. personally the more i have to read the more tiresome it gets so i don't know quite get why that would bring on disappointment anyway
 
I'm liking aerious's point about Kat's behavior EoD; it's looking pretty sus to me
 
So you were "Applying pressure" while you didn't post in the thread for the last 3 hours?
You said you voted because you "were taking a nap and didn't want to die for not voting".
Am I misinterpreting this by assuming you weren't reading the thread? If you weren't reading the thread, what was the point of the pressure?
Were you expecting other people to do something off it?

Or were you reading up until a point and then stopped for a nap?

I've got a lot of questions but I'm genuinely super curious about the answer.

this seems like you're trying to make some sort of "gotcha" post but like lol.

my thoughts on dedenne / eponas response / dedennes response were all like four hours prior to day end, dedenne responded to me relatively fast but epona replied defending dedenne almost immediately. (at which point i was reading)

then i fell asleep and woke up to vote like 30 mins (?) or so before day end, i vaguely skimmed the thread but didn't read much at that point and hadn't changed my mind so yep. i voted.
 
tbh the only thing i've taken away from today is:
1. something abt annie reads off to me (scumpona returns, coming soon to theatres near you)
2. honestly why wasnt endless axed like wouldn't mafia want to get rid of him asap? he's got the wallposts and is very thorough.
 
RE: glow meta: tbh i purposefully am not consistent with posting frequency/style/effort for the reason that i don't want to have a "high effort = town" thing ever again; though the frequency bit is more just based off of how much free time i have
 
tbh the only thing i've taken away from today is:
1. something abt annie reads off to me (scumpona returns, coming soon to theatres near you)
2. honestly why wasnt endless axed like wouldn't mafia want to get rid of him asap? he's got the wallposts and is very thorough.
I think if endless sticks around long enough we will have to consider that but so far nothing from him is giving any bad vibes.

Kat/glow/Tensu? How compatible is this team? I think kat/glow are a very likely scumpair but not sure how well Tensu meshes with those two. This is just the vibe I'm getting from reading up on everything
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RE: glow meta: tbh i purposefully am not consistent with posting frequency/style/effort for the reason that i don't want to have a "high effort = town" thing ever again; though the frequency bit is more just based off of how much free time i have
I can back this up about glow; that being said, there's more reason to be sus of glow than just "she is different from meta!!!!!!!!!"
 
RE: glow meta: tbh i purposefully am not consistent with posting frequency/style/effort for the reason that i don't want to have a "high effort = town" thing ever again; though the frequency bit is more just based off of how much free time i have
It's not about frequency, it's about what you bring to the table in those posts.
 
Thank you for this succinct summary; I think from what I'm reading from you and others' summaries that glow, guava, and Ronishy should be looked into more. I am always leery of people who sheep early on but there's also not a ton to go off of d1 usually. Glow bringing up dedenne as a lynch is not necessarily the most sus thing ever but it does kinda look bad. Guava kind of seems all over the place.

so i'm leery for.. sheeping........?
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so ur leery of me for***
 
IIRC ness got lynched a bunch d1 as both alignments for that very reason (lmao)

for what it's worth, i don't think ness wanted all this attention on him (as either alignment) cos he seemed immediately over his unravel!scum shtick after the criticism

i first wanted to say toads was towny for the pressure on ness, but i'm hesitant now because i don't actually know if his statements are consistent. if toads thought ness was trying to garner attention or reactions, what was there to gain with responding to ness and giving him that attention?

why would it not have been better to just ignore ness at that point? i mean, ness' push was substanceless, daniel's question to ness seemed primarily to just content-generate, and unravel hadn't responded yet.

unravel [theoretically] could've felt pressured to respond the more their name was said, but now that ness' push has....unraveled ....(heh) the focus is no longer on them to respond/react to ness

TL;DR hayden is mafia :lemon:
to be fair i actually quoted his post (and a prior one that i ended up removing) with the intention to write a ~toads is locktown~ speech

that devolved into...whatever i said....

anyway

small games are kinda weird, i think this is the smallest game i've been in. with somewhat certainty i can say that within this pool:

[toads/ness/daniel/antonio]

there's at maximum 1mafia in there, i really don't think there's two mafia in these four based off the interactions. IF there was two, the weakest interactions are between AntonioxToads but something sounds wrong about that too. honestly imho it's either 0 or 1.

[shawo/hayden/unravel/pathetic]

probably 2 mafia in there lol ^___^

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i agree, i actually think any content is better than none.



my point was actually that if toads' believed that Ness is trying to get attention, then it'd be more productive to just ignore Ness.

ignoring Ness does 2 things:

1. doesn't give (in toad's word's) Ness what he "wanted"
2. leaves the conversation fixated on unravel, who could then feel a pressure to respond
m-my posts are weak? sure, ok. wbu tho?



strikethrough is commentary, not reads.
italics = reads
bold = downplaying your reads / walking back ur reads




nonspecific. what do you agree with? more walking back reads




3/4s of this is commentary and not reads. bolded outlays a townread which was discarded.



hayden has more content than shawo but aight




what feels genuine? what posts do you like?



non specific. what about shawo's contributions are better than mine? you criticise me for not being srs but shawo's been trolling for the same amount, if not more, of posts

second half of the sentence is nonsensical -- what does ?being recognised through their reads? mean? i have no idea how what you?re saying relates at all to shawo being a townlean for you



1. you never townread ness.
2. you said you agreed with toads posts but walked back on that in the same sentence.
3. even with daniel, your ?main tr? you started your post with ?daniel?s tricky to read?.



lol
I mean, look at these day 1 posts from a previous game where glow was Town.

These feel like the town motivated glow that I remember. None of your posts in this game fits the vibe coming off of these.
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Just look at how much you contribute that early on in that game compared to all your posts this game. The differences is notable.
 
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