Dad invited me here over discord and I’ve generally eschewed mafia games for a long time now for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that I work full time now + OT so I don’t generally have much time to actually *be* here. With my weekend stacked (including celebrating my IRL dad’s birthday) I simply forgot I signed up. But now I’m attempting to make an effort here best I can. Be gentle with me
Also I like to meme post a decent bit as anyone who’s played with me can attest to
i honestly think endless/kat are a possible scum pair, primarily bc of the same wording on criticism towards my actions yesterday (potential mention in scumchat?). endless was the first to mention volt’s sus on kat and claimed he townread her bc of the possibility of framing, thus it couldn’t be her. then went null on her after i built my case, still ignoring the notion that she had 1 scumlean and still voted for someone she believed to be null
i really just want kat dead today, straight up
get off evan/glow for today when both of them have made pretty weak points against each other
i want to believe endless is town but it rlly just doesn't make sense. he's had some of the most detailed posts re: game reads/game in general and he's town reading me and epona (who i sus on gut reasons more than anything else) and scumread antonio who legit doesn't appear scummy to me, just a bit erratic if anything.
if i were maf i would've immediately taken this dude out so i'm like.. hunny why r u still here??? r u scum??
i just like posts baby.
i've always said don't read into my likes bcos they literally are me liking the post detached from gameplay. they're meaningless and if u wanna sr me for that go ahead but look @ any of my mafia games and i'm liking **** up and down. i've actually had to tone it down bcos everyone loves reading way too deep into it.
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hi do u have any ideas for why scum would want to keep him around if he rlly is town?
I’ll reply to your like bit here too. That makes sense. I often like posts because they are funny, not necessarily due to my agreeing with them
Every time the whole “good player not dead, good player = mafia, ooga booga” argument comes up, a part of me dies inside. Mafia could keep him alive because they know we’ll suspect him as mafia after living too long so we Lynch him and lose at lylo
In all seriousness while there is a tiny bit of merit to the point, it’s bad reasoning and Endless’s reads are a bigger reason to put him under the microscope. We should not be pulling this argument out when a good player is still alive DAY TWO.
I’ll reply to your like bit here too. That makes sense. I often like posts because they are funny, not necessarily due to my agreeing with them
Every time the whole “good player not dead, good player = mafia, ooga booga” argument comes up, a part of me dies inside. Mafia could keep him alive because they know we’ll suspect him as mafia after living too long so we Lynch him and lose at lylo
In all seriousness while there is a tiny bit of merit to the point, it’s bad reasoning and Endless’s reads are a bigger reason to put him under the microscope. We should not be pulling this argument out when a good player is still alive DAY TWO.
Every time the whole “good player not dead, good player = mafia, ooga booga” argument comes up, a part of me dies inside. Mafia could keep him alive because they know we’ll suspect him as mafia after living too long so we Lynch him and lose at lylo
In all seriousness while there is a tiny bit of merit to the point, it’s bad reasoning and Endless’s reads are a bigger reason to put him under the microscope. We should not be pulling this argument out when a good player is still alive DAY TWO.
this is exactly why i don’t want him dead today and i want kat to go first. he’s a solid lucky elim for maf if he’s town. he’s been an (albeit weak and distant) white knight for kat since start of day
plz kill kat and quit getting derailed by glow nonsense
this is exactly why i don’t want him dead today and i want kat to go first. he’s a solid lucky elim for maf if he’s town. he’s been an (albeit weak and distant) white knight for kat since start of day
plz kill kat and quit getting derailed by glow nonsense
this is exactly why i don’t want him dead today and i want kat to go first. he’s a solid lucky elim for maf if he’s town. he’s been an (albeit weak and distant) white knight for kat since start of day
Dad invited me here over discord and I’ve generally eschewed mafia games for a long time now for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that I work full time now + OT so I don’t generally have much time to actually *be* here. With my weekend stacked (including celebrating my IRL dad’s birthday) I simply forgot I signed up. But now I’m attempting to make an effort here best I can. Be gentle with me
Also I like to meme post a decent bit as anyone who’s played with me can attest to
are we seriously going to do the 'this player hasn't been NKd yet therefore they must be scum' thing
it's literally the laziest way to play this game and i am disregarding any point that mentions it
did endless just say he's voting me cos i voted town and "haven't been responding to questions exactly"
lol ngl i expected like... more... if he's trying to mislynch me... make it fun ^_^
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endless is definitely playing this sr of me weirdly and i'm not sure what that means
i would like to hear more from kat, i kinda took her out of my townreads bc i dunno how compatible they all are with each other so yep
i'm gonna b voting Evan because his thread entrance was clunky and it doesn't seem reasonable to me that he has three scumreads when uhhhh ive been here the whole game and i find it incredibly difficult to narrow teams as this point
also he should have been mod killed??? or did i miss something.
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ugh it just bothers me that he hasn't read like, you signed up for the time commitment to the game which has been INCREDIBLY slow compared to others (where d1 can be 80-100 pages) and you missed an entire phase so the least you could do is catch up i don't even care as much about what you contribute but i don't think town benefits anything from having someone who's reliant upon a summary of d1 to formulate reads
The Dedenne push seems genuine and if Glow is intact mafia, that was the weakest push I have seen in my life, if glow flips scum I'll hush, but I'm sure that won't be the case, my gut feeling is telling me that and I'm 73.9% right with those.
strong disagree on arstotzkan -- they had a scumlean. it was me. they didn't vote for me. if you understand my points, why dodge this one? she flat out admitted to leaning me
No, despite it being clearly mentioned in your post I somehow brushed over this.
Would also like some justification regarding this matter from Kat.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
not understanding how ace is weak scumread and mog isn't, with arguably less content than tensu/evan. i also don't grasp the townlean on ronishy and guava when really they haven't contributed much either.
With regard to Ace vs Mog I don't really understand the correlation? I don't scumread Ace because of his lack of meaningful content.
The reason I have a mild scumlean on Ace is more towards his reactions towards being pressured on his.. let's say pretend reads list, and his reactions after the fact. Tbf I also hated what I read of his gameplay day 1 of the last game, but I dunno this feels worse - more artificial?
As mentioned before, not a strong read, and I fully encourage him to participate and demonstrate his opinions on everything that's been going on. (And there's a decent amount of stuff going on now.)
With regard to guava/ronishy, the read on them is very similar to the read I had on Antonio early on in day 1 - by no means a read which will strongly influence a read I have on them in the future, but just a ballpark for "I think their reactions/content were genuine".
I mean the reasoning you have here for Aerious is essentially the same reason I thought you had for kat. I.e. choosing between the lesser of two evils.
Which as I stated on my Kat read in my reads post, I don't think means that much. (Obviously, the situation with Kat is actually different, as they had someone they assumably scumread. But my reasoning at the time for Kat in my post still holds for epona.)
glow i can't say for certain, but i genuinely do not believe glow is maf this game. settling for the option of two people is straight up false dichotomy, glow pointed what epona did (see above) out. there's been weak participation, but i find it incredibly hard to believe that maf would lead an elim on dedenne d1 to draw attention to themselves when everyone was running around like chickens w/ their head cut off. it's easy to be opportunistic during that and join in
I don't think mafia!glow is any more or less likely to lead a lynch in a dry day phase than town!glow. I'm fairly sure she's competent enough to not alter her play that drastically as different alignments.
You keep mentioning that epona voted between her two townreads, but the more you post it the more I understand it less - epona only voted her townread with 5 minutes to go on the clock, and with the caveat that she wanted to CDF onto someone else.
It makes sense that if she townread Antonio more than dedenne, and she ultimately had the power to lynch either but (very importantly) no power to lynch outside, she'd choose dedenne.
5 minutes left is essentially the end of a day phase. Wanting her to wait longer than that seems unreasonable.
Of course, you can take the moral high ground option of "well she shouldn't have voted either of her townreads and just let the one she townread more die".
Obviously, this is horrific view point, as no one should ever be sure that their townreads are actually town - especially in a day phase as dry as that. So picking the weaker of her townreads was actually just slightly upping the probability (in her mind) that mafia would be lynched. (Even if it was lower than random from her perspective at that point.)
In common english, she didn't want dedenne lynched, but she really didn't want Antonio lynched.
Almost accurate - I'm voting you because your question answering (or lack thereof) is making it very difficult for me to understand your point of view.
And as for "voting town", I'm not scumreading you for voting town - I'm scumreading you for your reasoning for voting a player.
We'd likely be having this same discussion if Antonio was lynched.
To re-iterate the entire case I have on you, for you, and for everyone else: (If any of the assumptions are wrong, please point them out.)
You went after dedenne because a) her hesitancy you subjectively scumread and b) you thought her re-entry into the thread "seemed kinda strange".
Epona gave a subjective defense for the hesitancy and a concrete explanation for the re-entry into the thread.
Ftr, if you just still scumread the hesitancy, that's absolutely fine. And I prodded you into saying this - but you didn't, and this is where things go sideways.
In response, I pointed out what I actually wanted to be answered. I attempted to make this post as clear and easy to respond to as possible. (If others didn't find it this way, that's relevant information to bring up - if glow misinterpreting it is more my mistake than hers then this would be a point in her favour.)
Despite this, in glow's response instead of focusing on the fact that her original reason (other than hesitancy) was, and I quote:
i think the "oh no there isn't much to read after i was gone" seemed kinda strange to say when i think there / was / stuff going on it was just minimal, i don't see how that sort of commentary rly helps anything and it seems more like an obvious statement than a sentiment that came out of disappointment or w/e
She provided an alternative reason why the dedenne read as mafia.
Honestly, while dedenne's "entrances and exits seem stilted" is a subjective read, I can't exactly fault it. But where does this logic fit in?
If a) it was on glow's mind yesterday around the time of the push, why wasn't it also mentioned in the post? Or in response to epona defending dedenne?
if b) it was something thought of after the fact, why is it relevant to bring up?
Once again, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points, but as far as I can see, glow's read here is a re-rationalisation of a former read - i.e. she has been called out on a read, and she's providing an alternative explanation for that read rather than justifying why she thought what she thought.
Ultimately, this is why I've voted her. Because from my perspective she either a) keeps digging her hole or b) starts walking me (and everyone else) through her thought process.
lol why is everyone disregarding the fact that my main reason for voting is who he is sussing and who he is clearing like, its rlly not abt him being a "good player" it's abt fundamentally disagreeing with who he's pushing and the added convenience that he's still around. maybe i'm just not communicating it properly.
you thinking your reasons are valid doesn’t mean that i agree. you’re citing her meta being off, not really what she’s done and contributed this game. she flat out said she makes a point of playing differently every game, so find different reasons w/o tl;dring what endless has said
and if you sus her bc of dedenne elim, that’s just straight omgus
are we seriously going to do the 'this player hasn't been NKd yet therefore they must be scum' thing
it's literally the laziest way to play this game and i am disregarding any point that mentions it
you thinking your reasons are valid doesn’t mean that i agree. you’re citing her meta being off, not really what she’s done and contributed this game. she flat out said she makes a point of playing differently every game, so find different reasons w/o tl;dring what endless has said
and if you sus her bc of dedenne elim, that’s just straight omgus
I am also still sus on Glow due to meta comparison as previously quoted, the hours long delay of an explanation regarding early day opinions, and the implications that mafia wouldn't do anything in a situation no one implying.
