I had forgotten to clarify this, but yes, I meant to mention at the start of day 1 that I had 15 Karen Role PMs in mind before I randed the roles and everyone has a Karen randomly assigned to them, even the mafia (as safeclaims). Thus you should not read into the flavor as anything AI.
Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)
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i think it was a valid question cause could have been a scumslip from mafia chat but now that it's verified no need to go any further w it
Arstotzkan
A scum mom
meme banter on page 2 was sending a slight red flag but I don't think pointing it out when no one else was bringing anything up was a good idea. It wasn't obscuring anything important and it in of itself was giving me intel that's kind of moot now so that's unfortunate 
Though I guess it's a discussion point at the same time which gets us out of that phase so? I guess I can see the merit? Idk I feel like that did more harm than good, especially when we had Antonio's post to discuss.
Speaking of, Antonio, you have... an energy to you this game lmao. Were you proposing RNG as a form of trying to decide who to lynch for EOD? Or am I misunderstanding?
Though I guess it's a discussion point at the same time which gets us out of that phase so? I guess I can see the merit? Idk I feel like that did more harm than good, especially when we had Antonio's post to discuss.Speaking of, Antonio, you have... an energy to you this game lmao. Were you proposing RNG as a form of trying to decide who to lynch for EOD? Or am I misunderstanding?
because i have confidence in the fact that what he provides will be value regardless of role. if he flips maf later, everything he's said can be nitpicked. if he's town, i trust that he'll be able to read between the lines and provides points that some skim over/deem irrelevant. regardless of alignment, he's going to nitpick players for more information and clarification. he's someone that provides stability and draws information out of people
Antonio
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I don't have access to the discord server so I wouldn't have able to see the message. All I wanted to do was see some proof of the actual message, like a screenshot or something.
I think that's a stretch of an assumption, tbh.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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It wasn't a serious suggestion, only a suggestion to start the conversation.
Arstotzkan
A scum mom
Would you like a link?
@Aerious eehhhhhhh I don't like that line of thought. If someone is scum, they should go. I feel like that's setting thread up to brush him under the rug because "he's useful either way"
honestly the way i read it was that bc it's not mentioned in main post, maf could easily pretend like they had no idea. that's why i wanted clarification out of the way
it's an absolutely fair assumption and something we've seen done on tbt time and time again -- maf banking on ignorance and being townread for it. you also could've asked geoni for clarification. i don't think you're scum based on it, but i'm trying to avoid any townleans based on not knowing that fact
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he hasn't, and i doubt anyone else will, do anything that's a glaring scumslip on d1. i never said he can't go in general, but i don't want him elim'd d1. also bc antonio rng'd him
Arstotzkan
A scum mom
Hey Geoni, could you edit the OP with common nicknames (like Kat, Abe, Annie, ect.)?
Antonio
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I would, yes.
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Keeping mafia in the game only hurts town. The quicker we get rid of mafia, the better.
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Arstotzkan
A scum mom
What's your experience with Endless (Abe)?
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Also general thoughts of him as a player would be appreciated
Antonio
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It's a far out assumption imo. I couldn't have seen the message since I'm not in the discord itself.
Arstotzkan
A scum mom
Do you think aerious' claim is alignment indicative?
known each other for like 6 years and played together a few times on em. regardless, i've heard a lot about him as a player from mutual friends. i like how his brain works and how he analyzes in games. he's someone i trust for stability/analysis and someone i don't want eliminated d1
you being in the discord is irrelevant to what i'm saying. i'm saying that could work in your favor if you were maf and ignorance on rules/quotes/etc has consistently had people townread. i'm trying to avoid people townreading you based on you not knowing. it is absolutely a possibility and it's been done time and time again by maf on tbt. i'm reiterating exactly what i said earlier, so idk if this point is worth continuing unless anyone else has thoughts on it
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
I'm sorry about my joke but I'm glad people are not stretching it too far.
With that said, it was discussed with some of us here about the mafia being able to fakeclaims, just to add, so it's not AI telling that aerious knows about this
the memeing and RPing is just the awkwardness of the situation because there was nothing to do go off but it could be revisited as ness flipped scum last game and he was doing that on the thread so hmmmmm
With that said, it was discussed with some of us here about the mafia being able to fakeclaims, just to add, so it's not AI telling that aerious knows about this
the memeing and RPing is just the awkwardness of the situation because there was nothing to do go off but it could be revisited as ness flipped scum last game and he was doing that on the thread so hmmmmm
:0 there i am
Antonio
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Possibly, it made me suspicious of them unlike before. I wasn't apart of the discord so I couldn't have been aware of the mafia information that was relayed to everyone. It would makes sense I wouldn't know something that wasn't stated in the OP.
However, Aerious implying that I could be faking my confusion to get townie brownies is a stretch when the obvious explanation is right there (as stated above). That false implication puts unnecessary sus on me.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
I don't think she's putting any sus, she just plays tighly and not leave room for mafia bs. but at most, this little discussion seems v/v but not assuming anything for now
Antonio
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Yes but I'm not mafia and I wasn't aware of the information stated beforehand. I see where you are coming from but like I said, it's a stretch when the obvious answer is right there. It puts unnecessary sus on me.
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I disagree, if she is Mafia then implying someone else's actions is scummy by stating a hypothetical situation could possibly hurt that individual and change others perspective of that individual aswell. Your statement is implying that they are town align but you are not considering the possibility of them being mafia.
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Arstotzkan
A scum mom
So someone making a logically weak argument for someone being maf is a scum tell in of itself?
but if you understand where i'm coming from, why be suspicious of me for addressing a point that's consistently been used? nothing is obvious in mountainous. we're meant to nitpick each other and everyone will be in the hot seat. ur trying to negate my point bc i addressed one hypothetical possibility that's been utilized numerous times before by maf and don't want anyone instantly townclearing u bc of it
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