Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

[mogyay]

DID SOMEONE SAY MAYO

hello my karangels, ALSO DO WE FINALLY HAVE A GAME THAT SUITS GMT, praise the LORD

What are your preferred pronouns?
she/her/idm
How many forum mafia games have you played?
no idea but a fair few i'd say!
What is your preferred alignment?
town, i absolutely hate being mafia
Which player in this game are you most familiar with?
i guess antonio, fairly familiar with glow and evan also!
What time zones do you live in?
gmt bb

 

[Antonio]

So someone making a logically weak argument for someone being maf is a scum tell in of itself?

As I stated before, all that argument did was change my previous assumptions of Aerious and made me more suspicious of them.

 

[voltairenism]

Yes but I'm not mafia and I wasn't aware of the information stated beforehand. I see where you are coming from but like I said, it's a stretch when the obvious answer is right there. It puts unnecessary sus on me.

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I disagree, if she is Mafia then implying someone else's actions is scummy by stating a hypothetical situation could possibly hurt that individual and change others perspective of that individual aswell. Your statement is implying that they are town align but you are not considering the possibility of them being mafia.

Agree to disagree then. I am not excluding her from being mafia, because that's not what's the point of the game, I played with her in radical's game and she has more or less the same attitude either alignment and I'm aware of that, but if this is v/v mafia can simply coast, so I tend to prefer to extinguish this kind of discussing that keeps going back and forth.
(also this was an issue on my last game where I point hypothetical statements as a fact as a result of me not being an english native speaker, so sorry for that)

 

[Arstotzkan]

Honestly I disagree. If there's another topic to move to, I'd say let's move there, but right now I don't think that exists. I'd rather have content than a dead thread. If this is just v/v, then that'll give us info on who those coasters are, whereas if we just let it die and stare at eachother we don't get that kind of information. If yall have a better convo to move to though, by all means, bring it up.

 

[Antonio]

but if you understand where i'm coming from, why be suspicious of me for addressing a point that's consistently been used? nothing is obvious in mountainous. we're meant to nitpick each other and everyone will be in the hot seat. ur trying to negate my point bc i addressed one hypothetical possibility that's been utilized numerous times before by maf and don't want anyone instantly townclearing u bc of it

I understand where you are coming from doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you coming to a particular assumption. You are doing what volt did and seeing someone in one possible situation (me being mafia and faking ignorance to something I already knew) without considering me in another situation (Being town and not knowing something that wasn't stated in the OP, hence why I asked you which discord it was in for better clarification).

 

[Arstotzkan]

You are doing what volt did and seeing someone in one possible situation (me being mafia and faking ignorance to something I already knew) without considering me in another situation (Being town and not knowing something that wasn't stated in the OP, hence why I asked you which discord it was in for better clarification).

i don't think you're scum based on it, but i'm trying to avoid any townleans based on not knowing that fact

Hard disagree

 

[Aerious]

Honestly I disagree. If there's another topic to move to, I'd say let's move there, but right now I don't think that exists. I'd rather have content than a dead thread. If this is just v/v, then that'll give us info on who those coasters are, whereas if we just let it die and stare at eachother we don't get that kind of information. If yall have a better convo to move to though, by all means, bring it up.

i'm honestly just waiting for everyone to post/add their thoughts on everything thus far

I understand where you are coming from doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you coming to a particular assumption. You are doing what volt did and seeing someone in one possible situation (me being mafia and faking ignorance to something I already knew) without considering me in another situation (Being town and not knowing something that wasn't stated in the OP, hence why I asked you which discord it was in for better clarification).

this is a strawman argument. i never once said ur scum -- i said that u shouldn't be towncleared based on something that maf does quite often. i'm not making ANY assumption, i merely brought up a possibility that ur running with

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Hard disagree

to what exactly? i'm not saying antonio is scum, i'm saying they shouldn't be cleared bc of ignorance. SO many people have fallen into the trap of insta townclearing/ignoring people bc they didn't know something. i don't want that nonsense happening this game

 

[Arstotzkan]

to what exactly? i'm not saying antonio is scum, i'm saying they shouldn't be cleared bc of ignorance. SO many people have fallen into the trap of insta townclearing/ignoring people bc they didn't know something. i don't want that nonsense happening this game

Antonio was saying you were only considering the situation where you were scum for it. I was posting a quote of you explicitly not doing that

 

[Aerious]

Antonio was saying you were only considering the situation where you were scum for it. I was posting a quote of you explicitly not doing that

ah i was SO confused for a second bc it was bolded.

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posted too early zz
i'm not entirely understanding the defensiveness over one possibility from antonio, but i also don't know their meta. no one has scumleaned them

 

[Arstotzkan]

LOL yeah I figured when you quoted that I was like oops,, yeah I could have formatted that way better

 

[Antonio]

Hard disagree

Hard disagree, again. I never stated they scum read me. The whole point of that post was to state they laid out a possibility of me being scum without considering the possibility of me being town and acting like that.

 

[voltairenism]

I understand where you are coming from doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you coming to a particular assumption. You are doing what volt did and seeing someone in one possible situation (me being mafia and faking ignorance to something I already knew) without considering me in another situation (Being town and not knowing something that wasn't stated in the OP, hence why I asked you which discord it was in for better clarification).

I did what now

 

[Ace Marvel]

Now we are cooking with gas.
Honestly for me all this is NAI, Aerious is playing Aerious, and I have only played once with Antonio, but this is NAI again.
Continuing this topic will just makes us going round and round.

 

[voltairenism]

Hard disagree, again. I never stated they scum read me. The whole point of that post was to state they laid out a possibility of me being scum without considering the possibility of me being town and acting like that.

we are not convincing you that it's not that deep are we

 

[Arstotzkan]

Hard disagree, again. I never stated they scum read me. The whole point of that post was to state they laid out a possibility of me being scum without considering the possibility of me being town and acting like that.

But if there was only the situation of you being scum doing that, wouldn't she, y'know, scumread you?

 

[Antonio]

I also agree on the stance of instant town clearing and how that shouldn't be a thing. However, laying out a possible mafia situation without addressing the possible town situation could lead people to assume the mafia possibility without even considering a town possibility which has been my whole entire point.

I did what now

was that you or am I thinking of someone else?

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But if there was only the situation of you being scum doing that, wouldn't she, y'know, scumread you?

Yes but that's not my point. My point isn't about coming to certain reads but the harmful implications of addressing a possible mafia situation without stating the town possibility.

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I swear, maybe I'm not typing out my thoughts correctly.

 

[Arstotzkan]

ok yeah I think we're all on the same page but arguing semantics at this point

 

[Aerious]

instead of liking posts, can people contribute their thoughts so that we have more to work with than one singular point pls?

 

[dedenne]

im gonna be completely honest here, i got lost haflway thru antonio vs aerious or whatever and rn imo it doesnt seem very ai but im going to have to reread it! but for now i am going to sleep cant wait to have loads of pages to catch up to when i wake up

also hold on i thought britains timezone rn is bst or is it gmt im so confused are they the same thing?

 

[Ace Marvel]

However, laying out a possible mafia situation without addressing the possible town situation could lead people to assume the mafia possibility without even considering a town possibility which has been my whole entire point.

I think that no one will go for the "Oh that's a slip tunneling now" on D1 especially since there is not a lot going on.