Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)
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for the record i thought tensu wouldve gotten killed next before eponas case on them because I recongnized the pattern
Also now that im fully awake im unsure of my reads again tbh
Also geoni 100% rands teams. He doesnt pick strong players only or a mix to be a scum team.
Also now that im fully awake im unsure of my reads again tbh
Also geoni 100% rands teams. He doesnt pick strong players only or a mix to be a scum team.
pls pls read eod and develop leans. if u recognized the pattern first, it’s vital to do so to help us have any shot at winning
all tensu elim would do is clear epona and i, unless epona’s plan was to chainsaw to appear inconspicuous by dodging wagon
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straight up @radical6 i'm panicking bc i want to win, pls go through each day’s eod and look at wagons/patterns between how people are voting and how they lean
Ok i will try but no promises.. after i do a few things ill sit down and try
Also then who do u tuink would provide rhe most info then? Ace lynch?
Antonio
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I disagree with your sentiment then and I would only agree someone who is town would've done that if it was Day 1 but any day phases beyond that is suspicious because if you're town, you shouldn't want to be voted off. You should be fighting to stay alive and attempt to disprove any claims against you.
ace has been pretty mia and lackluster in the reads dept. tensu latched onto endless early game, so maybe he could provide info coz i don’t think they’re teamed together if one is w. epona’s voting however she feels inclined. glow’s eod d2 threw me off, but idk if that’s enough info + ate to appear town (to epona: pls say ur not mafia :~(), which takes me back to last game. honestly i have no idea who would provide the most info
Antonio
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Can you clarify on the first statement?
Regarding the 2nd statement, how are your reads unsure now?
Third statement is true, it's in the OP.
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How would a Tensu lynch provide more info exactly? What kind on information would they provide if they flip town? What about if they flip mafia?
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Also, isn't today the last day phase before mafia wins?
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Wait, there's 9 ppl left not 7. We have one more day after this if we don't vote off mafia.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Here is the thing with my death and I will say it so it doesn't get lost, if you succeed in killing me today, I will flip town like I always do, and tomorrow adding the Kat wagon, will go after Aerious, which is the perfect way for mafia to win, because at this point I don't see how flipping me town would benefit Aerious case, so in town best interest, if you succeed in voting me off, it's fine, but please, please, don't go after Aerious tomorrow or we will lose. From the reactions Aerious is showing, I will town lock next to glow.
T: Glow, Aerious, Epona, Me
TL: Guava, Antonio , Endless
S: Tensu, Radical
Radical: This slot was getting sus, so maybe the replacement came just at the right time to give it a clean slate.
Tensu: If you think I'm coasting, I think Tensu has been more absent, and I firmly believe that mafia can be in the low posting players.
Out of the town leans I sus Endless the most, but Aerious is stopping me from being sure.
Antonio like I said is waiting for the right time to share his big revelation, which by now I don't know if that revelation even exists.
Guava is a super good master of disguise, so we can be fooled easily, but I believe this is chaotic townie.
The thing I don't get is the Mia and lack of content I have 106 posts, granted they are not walls, but I'm here.
T: Glow, Aerious, Epona, Me
TL: Guava, Antonio , Endless
S: Tensu, Radical
Radical: This slot was getting sus, so maybe the replacement came just at the right time to give it a clean slate.
Tensu: If you think I'm coasting, I think Tensu has been more absent, and I firmly believe that mafia can be in the low posting players.
Out of the town leans I sus Endless the most, but Aerious is stopping me from being sure.
Antonio like I said is waiting for the right time to share his big revelation, which by now I don't know if that revelation even exists.
Guava is a super good master of disguise, so we can be fooled easily, but I believe this is chaotic townie.
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The thing I don't get is the Mia and lack of content I have 106 posts, granted they are not walls, but I'm here.
Antonio
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I'm sorry but I never had a big revelation? Did I imply I was going to have one or?
Ace finally has a reads post, let's dig in.
(You have provided reasoning on some of the players already - such as glow, but a full restatement would be ideal. It's a big thread, people tend to miss stuff.)
Like honestly none of the comments in this post reflect the reads given above sans the comments pertaining to radical, which I omitted because while I don't necessarily agree with it, I found it entirely reasonable.
Now that I'm done reviewing that, there's a whole slew of other stuff in the thread but most of it really requires me to reread and I don't feel like doing that before sleeping, so I'll get to it tomorrow.
Will however tag on that I find the Cake night kill not all that surprising - I've more or less come to the conclusion that mafia are killing off players they believe will be townread, which strongly suggests at least one analytical player (Aerious/epona/glow from my perspective) is on the mafia team. Not super relevant but try and avoid listing potential mafia teams of say Tensu/Ace/Antonio for example, because I really doubt that kill pattern would come from a team like that.
Given that I townread every analytical player, I've figured I have at least one incorrect townread - which means more reading, great.
I'll also tag on that I really dislike the whole LHF argument - I feel like it justifies low effort/poorly explained play. Sure, it is absolutely reasonable to think a mafia will go after a town player with low effort/poorly explained play, but that doesn't detract from the fact that on an objective level, mafia are more likely to have play they can't explain well and a scenario like this is more likely to have a mafia on the receiving end than town.
Now, I'm not suggesting we just lynch everyone that classifies as "LHF", I just think we should promote behaviour that encourages these individuals to format their thoughts in such a way that they can be understood. Giving them a get out of jail free card is not such behaviour.
Can you please give a single sentence (or more) of reasoning on why you have these views? It's all very well and good to assign names to alignments, but explanation as to the process of how you got there a) generates content with people agreeing or disagreeing to your reasoning b) helps people read you based on how genuine or reasonable your thought process on your reads is.
(You have provided reasoning on some of the players already - such as glow, but a full restatement would be ideal. It's a big thread, people tend to miss stuff.)
I've removed the two I understand, could you please explain how you garnered the rest of these? I can't really see them.
You just mention further up in this post that you read Antonio as a townlean - this reads more of a sus towards Antonio, could you please clarify?
I think the logic of "Tensu could be mafia with any permutation of players" is awful and I'm not really going to entertain it. Team reads should really only be utilised a) when someone flips mafia, b) for process of elimination with a small remaining player count or c) in contrast with other reads. (Such as I did with regard to glow in my last reads post.)
Does this impact your read on me?
Like honestly none of the comments in this post reflect the reads given above sans the comments pertaining to radical, which I omitted because while I don't necessarily agree with it, I found it entirely reasonable.
Now that I'm done reviewing that, there's a whole slew of other stuff in the thread but most of it really requires me to reread and I don't feel like doing that before sleeping, so I'll get to it tomorrow.
Will however tag on that I find the Cake night kill not all that surprising - I've more or less come to the conclusion that mafia are killing off players they believe will be townread, which strongly suggests at least one analytical player (Aerious/epona/glow from my perspective) is on the mafia team. Not super relevant but try and avoid listing potential mafia teams of say Tensu/Ace/Antonio for example, because I really doubt that kill pattern would come from a team like that.
Given that I townread every analytical player, I've figured I have at least one incorrect townread - which means more reading, great.
I'll also tag on that I really dislike the whole LHF argument - I feel like it justifies low effort/poorly explained play. Sure, it is absolutely reasonable to think a mafia will go after a town player with low effort/poorly explained play, but that doesn't detract from the fact that on an objective level, mafia are more likely to have play they can't explain well and a scenario like this is more likely to have a mafia on the receiving end than town.
Now, I'm not suggesting we just lynch everyone that classifies as "LHF", I just think we should promote behaviour that encourages these individuals to format their thoughts in such a way that they can be understood. Giving them a get out of jail free card is not such behaviour.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
I asked why you were asking a lot and no sharing, and you said you wanted to be sure before saying anything, but time is running out.
Antonio
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Oh, that. My perspective on Guava changed when I realizing my misunderstanding regarding their reasoning behind baiting Endless. I understand the reasoning behind it but I'm still confused on why they were baiting someone if they weren't expect alignment indicating results, instead the results went either way regarding alignment so what was the point? I'm not still 100% sure about guava alignment and I won't till I get an answer for the above question. I'm inclined to think they are more town align but I'm not sure unless I get an answer.
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Why are you asking only Endless?
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Glow I think I already explain.
Aerious is playing a dangerous game string herself to be the next target if I die, and it will be a super sad way to lose the game, and I will fight for my spot, so I won't let that happen, believing this is a likely scenario I have no other option but to town lock Aerious.
Epona, has been giving reads and overall questioning all players, which is a good look and like in Mario Universe, I don't see her motivation behind an agenda, not 100% locked yet but she is part of my town.
Me- well I am, and that is the weakest defense, but this is the only info I'm 100% sure.
Antonio is town lean and answering your question is not sus yet, but is part of the game and I'm pointing that out, you asked me to made a read list, good or bad I made it, but I could have start saying, I need a little more time and continue that way until either I died or keep people away from me because of this, and I felt this way, this is not mad AI directly can also be a paranoid townie trying to survive.
Guava like I said is a wild card, but more of a town card, what worries me and is nothing against her, but Guava not being able to play because of rl, means we might lose a vote tomorrow and that is something mafia will used in their favor to get unofficial parity, if guava is town. If mafia is not that relevant to have an absent member for mafia to work, since they are intact.
Tensu, you said the argument is weak, therefore LHF and you suggest going after LHF, but somehow that is weak at the same time.
Endless, your play can be read as wolf, but I know player that role like that, I don't have your meta. so idk yet who to 100% fill about you.
using my last few moments with decent cell service to write this:
voting endless bcos honestly how many more times can i he asked to read “guava is just a bad player and stop trying to excuse her behavior”
lmao have fun kiwis
voting endless bcos honestly how many more times can i he asked to read “guava is just a bad player and stop trying to excuse her behavior”
lmao have fun kiwis
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
You have fun!
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