Antonio
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Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)
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ok fmpov this is not a thing
does an ace/tensu [endless / epona] team really make sense. epona was and still is trying to lynch tensu pretty adamantly, m!epona doesn't turn an evan lynch into evan vs. teammate lynch imo so if epona maf i think tensu is town
out of all these names its actually epona who's been mehhhhh the most
some of the statements recently from her don't make sense. specifically pushing guava for following her lynch as a weak bus when guava &you were the only reasons that the lynch was even open to tensu
she also didn't comment on antonio vs evan which is v interesting to me
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I'm bringing this back since this was ignored by glow.
i guess ur conclusion is that you thought evan as mafia was just openly claiming mafia bc he gave up? or like you think he wrote himself as mafia in his reads list and forgot to remove? kinda confused
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i don't think it's even accurate to say he gave up
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I believed it was a slipped and he excused it as a joke, so the 2nd one. When I questioned him about the joke, he said he did it before in other games. I stated that I don't remember him doing it, and he stated it it was on another forum and he can't quote it as of now which was suspicious to me. Then I asked him to provide a URL instead but I didn't get a response. After that, he just gave up so I assumed it was mafia giving up because he accepted defeated without properly trying to answer my question. It's hard to just take someone's word for something when they state they have done it before without properly giving the info backing up their claims. Same applied to me being suspicious of Guava's memes and someone saying she does it no matter what alignment so I had to check their previous games and I concluded that it was NAI. However, Evan stated it was on another forum without offering a link to it so it was hard to investigate their claim.
I disagree on the matter that he didn't give up, he could've provide more like the URL instead of disappearing in the last hour.
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The lack of a defense also furthered my suspicions as stated from my leftover text that I couldn't send due to EOD.
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i find this hard to follow as i don't know why anyone mafia would type "scum" next to their name intentionally if they intend to remove it later?
i can get it being scummy that he was memeing or joking around too much, but
the above post + your statement about you thinking was a slip seem off to me because this quote makes it sound like you just didnt think town would say something like that -- not that he made a mistake as mafia? the wording isn't rly the same?
as for evan leaving, can't rly fault him for that because it seemed genuine either way. mafia/town both don't want to be voted off (if anything it's my opinion that mafia will care more than town)
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Because it wasn't intentional, a slip isn't something that you do is something you don't mean to do. I don't understand why someone with a townie mindset would scum read themselves in their own reads unless they were mafia and made some psychological mistake when typing out their reads. Hence, the scum slip.
Yes, a townie wouldn't say something like that as explained above. Why would someone who is playing with a townie mindset scum read themselves in their own read posts? At the time, I thought he made a mistake as mafia. OFC, that was wrong.
The only explanation we had was "It was a Joke that he usually does on other forums" but without a proper source/proof to back up his claims, I couldn't believe his explanation. Plus, he had the time to provide a URL but choose not to.
It's not about him leaving that bothers me, it's about him not staying and providing useful information that can counteract his lynch. He should have done more then just leave.
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I actually have a question for you, why did you revote for Evan when you showed hesitance to the lynch near EOD? You were one of the first people to sus him and was pretty on board to vote him off till near EOD when you removed the vote. Then, you voted for them at the last moment after being hesitant for the lynch. What changed your mind exactly because you never explained...?
Ace Marvel
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And apparently quiet will remain.
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Ace Marvel
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Sure, what do you think about Glow and Guava posting early into the day? What's your opinion of the interaction between me and glow? Finally, any new changes to your reads?I'm here if you want to talk.
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Not posting, voting. Voting early on into the dAY***
and i'm referring to the interaction above us, not in-general but that would be good information to know
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aswell
sorry, busy with math so my mind isn't on grammar
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Glow seems town to me, and even though I don't super sus you, I think that vote is coming from a town point of view.
Guava's vote seems consistent with her voting pattern, is not the first time she tries to start an Endless wagon, so no new info there, and I don't see that happening anyways, idk, if she is unable to come back before EoD it could be a wasted vote.
My reads remain, I think we will find scum in Tensu or Radical, maybe even both, I like Endless pow, that maybe mafia is killing townread low posters to protect low posting, although I don't see the plan now, so I want to prove that theory.
You and glow seem to be basing your reads of each other in arguments the rest can comment because they are meta base, I just have one game with you and about 4 with glow, so I can't really comment beyond that I town lock glow and Town lean you.
What do you think about the day so far, have any suspects?
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I disgaree on the "from a town point of view" unless you willing to elaborate on why you think that is. I personally wished Glow would have asked me questions first before attempting to push a wagon on me like that. It feels like his main purpose was getting me lynched instead of investigating why I voted evan. I mean, look at this:
This was before he started questioning me so it feels like he was gonna push on me without willing to investigate further. Also, why Endless?
Regarding Guava however, I couldn't agree more that her voting is consistent with her gameplan. I'm more inclined to believe she's more town aligned then scum aligned but I still want that question answered if she comes back.
I agree that Tensu behavior is suspicious but I'm only susing him based on a lack of behavior compared to previous day. Why else are people susing him? However, I don't sus Radical because there's barely any posts to work with which I don't think is NAI. I don't think we should be voting off someone who's inactive, rather someone we believe is scum
All Night Kills have been Cake, Volt, and Ron. I agree that they are low-posting kills but I don't understand how that protects low-posters? If anything, they are probably getting rid of low posters because their flips wouldn't reveal much regarding team alignments.
Sorry, I was referring to glow pushing me as scum, not in-general. What do you think about that?
Besides previously stated reasons Glow and maybe Tensu, no one else. No one else had peaked my suspicions.
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I stated I v read you, maybe looking for an ally, even though I lock town glow, I don't want to join your wagon.
First part, I just due process of elimination I'm running out of candidates and my town core is getting clearer and clearer, and I can't seem to fit Tensu atm there.
I think that because, people don't see them as potential wagons, so following this pattern eventually, we will have to look there, and that can be a good defense, and some might buy it.
I think is a t/t argument, and your wagon won't become a reality, or at least I hope so.
post count =/= valuable content
no it's not, maf could've easily realized that pushing a wagon on me is a waste of time
any team makes sense atm besides ace/radical/tensu or ace/antonio/radical or even antonio/radical/tensu. aka it's highly improbable that you/me/epona/endless are all town. i'm town, so it's you v epona rn imo. some knowledge of players has gone into this game, so if endless were scum, he'd be with one of you two
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this was helpful and also why i wish kat was around, that didn't connect for me at all
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yeah see idk let's go evan
this is what threw me off btw, but also ur willingness to defend me + saying i'm scum today -> swapping when u can't get maj to agree
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Ace Marvel
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But that value is subjective to the reader and if you doesn't find them helpful it doesn't mean they are not valuable.
The you know you have to protect yourself...
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Why?
the brunt of your content is irrelevant to the gamestate
i don't rly have to protect myself, maf starting a wagon on me is going to be a wagon w/o wheels unless it's a ~reaction test~ to garner info
pattern of who's dying
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also i just don't believe this after last game, where all 3 of the maf tr'd me early bc of how i analyze those who sr me most
ok kinda too tired to respond to everything from anyone but
??? huh???????
do you think ive sincerely pushed on u, lmao.
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me wanting to not lynch kat throws u off how.
Ace Marvel
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We'll see about that, I don't believe that for once.
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