Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)
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you/radical lol
No, but idk what else I expected from late game tinfoil
Antonio
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I don't recall that last part, can you quote it.
i was just about to list them in the not aligned category lol
why do you think not aligned
like i said this is tinfoil and im not going near it today but still
for me it was the "useless slot but town" from aerious into radical calling aerious town for late game effort, it just felt like a genuine back and forth while they were townreading each other for different reasons and THEN radical started heavily campaigning for aerious' lynch candidates which feel sheepy in a lost-town way. it seems radical isn't sure where to look but trusts aerious. radical literally asking who would or would not vote me to figure out how viable aerious' lynch looks would just be kinda weird to do as mafia, i don't think mafia would campaign so openly like that together
i also just think they're both town so that is probably seeping into this read
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unrelated question @epona, do you not think endless is compatible with the majority of people here outside of uh, guava? i feel like it's inconsistent to SR tensu for that but not endless
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it is for sure recoverable right now actually, so long as we hit mafia today because a mafia flip will help so much for interactions
if we ML today it's very likely a loss i think
that's why it's tinfoil i feel like it sets them up nicely to vote together today/tomorrow for hammering and it also comfortably inserts them in people's TR piles with only 2 MLs left
again i do think they're both town though so it's not that important
yes endless is compatible with pretty much everyone except guava and maybe you? but i'm not SRing tensu FOR his compatibility it's just a factor that reinforces my SR on him
endless just feels more solvey and town in general. tensu has coasted this entire game
things i don't like about endless
things i like about endless
- throughout the game he's had incompatible scumreads (admittedly). he seems to split them with an "either, or" which isn't necessarily a bad thing on its own, BUT
- he also places people based off of POE. this i don't know how to interpret, because if you're not sure within your top two scumreads, how do you also POE epona as mafia here despite having two nulls?
- the kat lynch complicitness thing never stopped bothering me tbh lol
things i like about endless
- decent logic/posts/consistency
- (this is actually my primary reason for townreading him for the most part of the past 2 or so phases) his read post where he 180'd on me, god i just found that so good. like very crafty on his part if he's mafia and manufactured that, if it wasn't for the fact that his skill level is so high i'd have townlocked him for it LOL (do i have pocket bias?????)
K rn my scumteams are:
Antonio leans: Glow/Endless/Radical
Ace leans: Tensu/Endless/Radical
Epona leans: tensu, antonio, ace, guava (from most to least)
Endless leans: Epona, Tensu, Guava, Antonio
Radical leans: Guava/Glow or Ace/Antonio
Glow leans: Antonio scum, Tensu town is the only latest one I see
Guava: Missing
Tensu: Missing
Tensu is in 4 of these reads. I think he's LHF and town. Same with Radical in 3.
And since it's late game, flavor doesn't matter, and I've been wanting to talk about it all game, I just wanted to tell people that I'm Zombie Karen. Still mad about it because she sucks </3
Anyways everyone. If someone were to be eliminated today, who would provide the most information? I don't want to hear Tensu, because he flat out provides none
- Guava/Glow -- Synergy
- Ace/Antonio/Guava -- My tinfoil
- Ace/Antonio/Glow -- My tinfoil 2.0
- Potentially Epona/Antonio -- Listed earlier
- Antonio/Tensu
- Epona/Endless
- Endless/Radical
- Guava/Endless
- Antonio/Glow
Antonio leans: Glow/Endless/Radical
Ace leans: Tensu/Endless/Radical
Epona leans: tensu, antonio, ace, guava (from most to least)
Endless leans: Epona, Tensu, Guava, Antonio
Radical leans: Guava/Glow or Ace/Antonio
Glow leans: Antonio scum, Tensu town is the only latest one I see
Guava: Missing
Tensu: Missing
Tensu is in 4 of these reads. I think he's LHF and town. Same with Radical in 3.
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And since it's late game, flavor doesn't matter, and I've been wanting to talk about it all game, I just wanted to tell people that I'm Zombie Karen. Still mad about it because she sucks </3
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Anyways everyone. If someone were to be eliminated today, who would provide the most information? I don't want to hear Tensu, because he flat out provides none
that took me 15 mins i legitimately clocked out of work so i could type on a computer
i'm unvoting for the time being to revisit some stuff. i will say i have 100% internally been flipping back and forth throughout this phase regarding antonio.
here's my thing, i need to answer how compatible with endless antonio is because to me their placement hinges on each other. i also wanted to see if i could get epona into an antonio vote which is why i kept mentioning her in my pushes, but mostly i wanted to see if endless followed up pursuit on antonio as well since he was also one of endless' main three(guava/evan/antonio) i assumed endless would see that was his most viable scumread he has since he isn't compelling anyone regarding guava
i really don't know about Antonio's alignment but he's for sure 1 of 2 townreads ive been reconsidering the most, i really don't have much on endless which is why i was hoping to learn something about endless with an antonio push so yeah welcome inside my head :~)
i'm unvoting for the time being to revisit some stuff. i will say i have 100% internally been flipping back and forth throughout this phase regarding antonio.
here's my thing, i need to answer how compatible with endless antonio is because to me their placement hinges on each other. i also wanted to see if i could get epona into an antonio vote which is why i kept mentioning her in my pushes, but mostly i wanted to see if endless followed up pursuit on antonio as well since he was also one of endless' main three(guava/evan/antonio) i assumed endless would see that was his most viable scumread he has since he isn't compelling anyone regarding guava
i really don't know about Antonio's alignment but he's for sure 1 of 2 townreads ive been reconsidering the most, i really don't have much on endless which is why i was hoping to learn something about endless with an antonio push so yeah welcome inside my head :~)
Ace Marvel
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I'm TRing Epona for an entirely different reason. She's not a town lock yet, but pretty close to it
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I really wanna believe me/Glow/Abe/Epona are town, but probability is unlikely
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Also I see Tensu with
From your reads, me/Antonio/Guava are on the same teams as Tensu, so if we only have those, I would go for Antonio, if Tensu really is not an option for you.
Since Guava idk, and I'm not voting my self.
I'm TRing Epona for an entirely different reason. She's not a town lock yet, but pretty close to it
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I really wanna believe me/Glow/Abe/Epona are town, but probability is unlikely
From your reads, me/Antonio/Guava are on the same teams as Tensu, so if we only have those, I would go for Antonio, if Tensu really is not an option for you.
Since Guava idk, and I'm not voting my self.
my reads are now centered around:
you, radical, guava
as town
also i think it's agreeable that everyone here either could see endless OR guava as mafia but almost never both????
my poe is left at: ace, epona, Antonio, endless, tensu.
i'm strict about epona / tensu not being aligned. i rllllllly can't read ace and epona, ik it sounds super weird to categorize them together but ive liked some of their posts at different points of the game.
epona seems lost which is hecka relatable, ace and her are sorta similar in that they seemed to have townread me early, iirc pretty much as soon as endless/antonio started pushing on me. i'm not used to being townread by ace, we have only been tvt and tvm and never been on the same page while we're on the same alignment so
but antonio / tensu / endless ........... ugh
with tensu, i just straight up wish they were modkilled. i think they might be town which is why i'm at an antonio / endless front where I CANNOT IN ANY WORLD SEE THEM BOTH AS TOWN
That's one possibility. Pls give me another reason pertaining to you and your reads, especially since he's not in your list of SRs
plz explain the 180 u just did on meI'm TRing Epona for an entirely different reason. She's not a town lock yet, but pretty close to it
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I really wanna believe me/Glow/Abe/Epona are town, but probability is unlikely
Antonio
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I'm down to vote either Glow/Endless or Radical today. I have more sus towards Radical regarding them ignoring their own reads in order to follow a wagon. I already said my opinions on glow, and the only sus I have on Endless is him basing his sus reads on me (about being a hypocrite) from what glow said which wasn't true. He didn't even bother to question Glows "push" if that's what you call it but instead took it to heart and stated it in his reads.
Either Endless or Glow are on the same page regarding pushing me or Endless was using Glows sus statement to justify a sus read on me.
Either Endless or Glow are on the same page regarding pushing me or Endless was using Glows sus statement to justify a sus read on me.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Guava, is not here, and we won't get anything from flipping her atm, that glow guava are not w/w, but I've been saying that almost all game.
Me, I won't vote myself.
Antonio, The RNG thing, contradiction to some arguments, and stretching some topics can be an strategy mafia, uses, he has pointed out some "slips", but when question about his actions there is not much to go after, and I have pointed this before, but that also does not means 100% scum read, so that is why Tensu is still my first choice, but if it comes to Guava/Antonio/Me I will have to vote Antonio.
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