Mafia Greek Cultists Mafia: Cult Surrenders! Town Wins!

[pillow bunny]

wat

oh **** a one-word post, kill ness he's confirmed scum

 

[Arstotzkan]

Answer the question, PB.

 

[N e s s]

oh **** a one-word post, kill ness he's confirmed scum

you would be surprised tbh

i'm thinking its the other way around with the way you're talking about Kat for no reason

 

[pillow bunny]

my wifi sucks be patient

So you're jumping to the conclusion the Kat is scum leader? That makes no sense, you aren't considering the posibilty of her being town at all. I haven't seen anything from you yet, so who do you think should be president?

i haven't concluded anything but i think she's acting extremely suspicious
i don't care who president is as long as it isn't kat

 

[Arstotzkan]

Eh, I get more of a stupid vibe from them than I do scummy vibe, because this seems like a BS point to rag on. But if not Justice, I'd be down for them as my next top suspect.

 

[pillow bunny]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't have it all done last time.

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What do you mean by this?

the cop check is basically meaningless
- if the president is cult leader they find out who cop is day 1 and convert them night 1. cop is now on the cult's side, pres covers for them, we die
- if president is town the cop can't announce that anyways
- cult member who is converted night 1 (or cult leader) can pretend they're cop and check the president to lynch them, which is indistinguishable from the above case

 

[Arstotzkan]

Ok, since I've got an idea (I think), I'm gonna reply.

I'm taking it as "They were right to not like your plan, but for the wrong reason"

You haven't provided a reason that I haven't countered. Mind offering a legit one up?

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the cop check is basically meaningless
- if the president is cult leader they find out who cop is day 1 and convert them night 1. cop is now on the cult's side, pres covers for them, we die
- if president is town the cop can't announce that anyways
- cult member who is converted night 1 (or cult leader) can pretend they're cop and check the president to lynch them, which is indistinguishable from the above case

A. This is why you'd wait to tell roles until D2. Cult leader would have no idea who's who.
B. Of course, and like I replied to you earlier, we'd just wait for 24 hours or something like that, and if they don't say something, then they're confirmed and we can feel free to tell them roles.
C. Real cop would be able to counterclaim.

 

[pillow bunny]

Ok, since I've got an idea (I think), I'm gonna reply.

I'm taking it as "They were right to not like your plan, but for the wrong reason"

You haven't provided a reason that I haven't countered. Mind offering a legit one up?

cult can be elected
i've said this before but you've been dancing around it

 

[Arstotzkan]

Why would you have everyone tell roles to someone and then check them on the same night? If you thought that's what I meant, I never thought that oml. That'd be really bad.

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cult can be elected
i've said this before but you've been dancing around it

I'm not really dancing around it? I'm answering your questions.

 

[N e s s]

cult can be elected
i've said this before but you've been dancing around it

You post like a dingus because your arguement is invalid

this is going no where, you're obviously not going to say anything

 

[Arstotzkan]

From my POV, it feels like you've been the one dancing around, actually. You say it's sus, I ask how, you said it's b/c I didn't consider cop check, I say I did, but then you go back to "but then they were right for the wrong reasons" and still kept believing I was scum without offering anything else up. I can see where you could have been confused though with the details of the cop check.

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Not to mention the part where you said I should have defended with a point that hadn't even been attacked.

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Aand you leave before you admit I have a point. Of course.

 

[N e s s]

Pillow bunny honestly seems like Town Idiot™

You're just distracting us right now, i can't understand what purpose you're trying to acomplish

 

[Arstotzkan]

tyvm for respecting the trademark <3

I am curious though - you seem to be siding with me in a lot of things, Ness. Why do you trust me so much?

 

[N e s s]

tyvm for respecting the trademark <3

I am curious though - you seem to be siding with me in a lot of things, Ness. Why do you trust me so much?

You seem to be pro-town in my opinion, this post is honestly what did it for me

Who and why do you think should be prez? I'd really like to be pres, actually, but if I had to choose someone else... Tbh I'd vote Dad. From my POV, he just outed scum. If that whole thing was a ****post though (which I'm starting to suspect because no one's reacting to it), then... I'd say I don't have enough info yet. Don't feel super confident about anyone yet.
Why would you make a good president?Ahh, here comes the good part.

So, I was doing a **** ton of thinking, and because a President is immune to conversion, they would almost certainly be town. We could have cop check them N1 to make sure they're in the clear, but come D2 (or N1 and skip the cop stuff if we really trust the President), they are a confirmed, outed town who cannot be converted. Seems like the perfect opprotunity for everyone to tell the President their role. And it's not like it'd be dangerous, either, since they're guarenteed townie. Ofc, this would happen via PM messages, so mafia wouldn't get ahold of role information. From there, the President could go through all of the roleclaims and be able to confirm some people while being able to see counterclaims, and from there limit our pool of suspects real fast. Then, from there, they can work in conjunction with the PRs to heal/invest/give powers/ect. to the right people.

I believe I would do a good job at this, which is one big reason why I'd like to be Pres. Additionally, I feel like I'm a strong voice of reason, and can perpetuate discussion.
Say IF You were president, who would you lynch D1I'd say justice b/c it seems like he just admitted to being cult, but no one's saying anything about it so is that normal meta on his part, or am I missing something else?
If you had a nuke, would you press launch it?**** no there's much better ways to obliterate that leaving radiation behind that can **** you over.

When i was first in the game, i considered making a post like this would help be decide who's who. So, when i saw this it left the best impression on me.

If i had to pick, you and oath seem like the most trustworthy.

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However this might change later, its D1 and i'm just trusting you for now

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I think i'm going to make a new questions thread.
Please answer the bolded questions.

How much mafia experience do you have? Several games with only 1 being mafia.
Now that we're further into the day, Who would you like to be lynched the most? PB or justice, heres my reasoning-

We know justice has been fooling around, but i'm still confused about that IRC moment, but i just see her as an alternate lynch in case the crowd decides her.

As for PB, i want him gone. I see him as either A)a really dumb townie (But i'm a dumb townie so) or B)Cult.
While its just a D1 lynch i wouldn't be surprised to see PB not as cult, but D1 lynches are almost always wrong. The thing is though is that PB has done nothing to contribute all day. Posting mostly one liners that are just something that is already been established by town.

Whats your favorite mystery book? Westing game, i spent forever trying to figure this book out.

 

[Arstotzkan]

How much mafia experience do you have?3 forums worth, rip.
Now that we're further into the day, Who would you like to be lynched the most?As of now, justice, though it isn't a strong scum read at all. The whole thing with it being a low percentage of electing a president, therefore, we shouldn't worry too much about it still rubs me the wrong way, and when they were like "what the hell no", it made me go "eh" b/c they said they said that we shouldn't worry about it after the fact, which is?? Also, the fact that they voted Ender for seemingly little reason isn't giving me a good vibe at all.

PB I feel like had reason to be like how they were just now, so my suspicion of them isn't really that high. I'd like to see their reply to my cop reply, though.

Whats your favorite mystery book?I don't read mystery that often, but 39 clues was a pretty good series iirc. Just read a German mystery book called Haifishe in der Spree that was kinda hilarious, so there's that too.

@Ness First off, I don't really think the arguments against me there were really established already.
Second off, do you think PB is the most likely to be cult, or...?

 

[N e s s]

@Kat i think PB is acting really weird, but i would say out of everyone that PB is the most likely to be cult as of yet. I'm thinking he's dull/slight town.

Now i don't think we should jump to that conclusion yet, because we always need to see what the defendent says first.

It seems you're questioning me for agreeing to you, why is this so?

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Kat i think PB is acting really weird, but i would say out of everyone that PB is the most likely to be cult as of yet. I'm thinking he's dull/slight town.

Now i don't think we should jump to that conclusion yet, because we always need to see what the defendent says first.

It seems you're questioning me for agreeing to you, why is this so?

I'm trying to analyze what you're saying that doesn't make sense to me.

@bold So you think everyone else is in the town range? Because otherwise, PB wouldn't be the most suspicious.

 

[N e s s]

I guess if i were to pick 2 other candidates it would be Trojan and Justice, justice for reasons already stated.

Trojan has been PMing odd things to me, and its leaving an odd taste in my mouth. So Trojan is my 3rd suspect.

Although Starry had one post that was a bit odd, she said "I'm hoping on the Kit lynch train because of everyone else on it". Although this might just be Starry with her usual plays, but its still worth monitoring.

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Also to everyone curious as to what trojan is saying-he said something that seems to have belonged in the thread, but he choose to say it to me?

 

[Arstotzkan]

I guess if i were to pick 2 other candidates it would be Trojan and Justice, justice for reasons already stated.

Trojan has been PMing odd things to me, and its leaving an odd taste in my mouth. So Trojan is my 3rd suspect.

Although Starry had one post that was a bit odd, she said "I'm hoping on the Kit lynch train because of everyone else on it". Although this might just be Starry with her usual plays, but its still worth monitoring.

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Also to everyone curious as to what trojan is saying-he said something that seems to have belonged in the thread, but he choose to say it to me?

Where does PB lie in this, then? Is PB more sus than Justice/Trojan? Or are they below them now?

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Also, what did Trojan say? If it belongs in thread, let's hear it lol.

 

[N e s s]

I honestly would just put justice as a tie with PB, because D1 its hard to decide.

And as for what trojan said, here it is. I asked him for more insight as to why he was sus of Kit, and i used that in my worthless attack on Kit earlier. So, here it is.
Just do it
WHEN THE WHOLE PRESIDENT THING IS OVER DONT GIVE UP ON YOUR SUSPICIONS FOR KIT, KIT AND KAT MIGHT ACTSULLY BR MAFIA IMO.
This is just odd, this whole thing is just odd- why would he ask for me to keep being suspicious of Kit and Kat in the first place? This belongs in the thread, not to me. So, Trojan, would you care to defend this?