Heart attack/Stroke

[chibibunnyx]

me and my cousin just got done debating about heart attacks and strokes, (she thought a stroke wasn't a heart condition because it deals with the brain)

But I began to tell her that in my opinion it's all caused by the heart indirectly.
The stroke happens in the brain, but to me either way, if the blood cannot pump the blood to the brain because of the blockage or burst in the brain, it begins in the heart in a way.

The heart is stopped by the blockage, which ultimately affects the brain, causing the stroke.

Does that sound wrong?
This started a whole other debate lol and I want to see what other people think as well.
She's assuming I'm saying the stroke begins at the heart, but when I really mean is that it begins in the heart because it's what's unable to pump the blood because of the blockage.

Or am I saying it the wrong way?
Or maybe I'm just wrong all together lol
I wanna know other opinions.

No arguing though!

 

[Aquari]

to be honest i dont know why you two dont just look it up and settle the debate that way, and no, a stroke doesnt have to involve the heart, a stroke happens when bloodflow to the brain is interrupted which can be caused by a broken/leaking blood vessel, blood-clot, blocked artery, and other reasons

 

[Haskell]

Having a stroke and a heart attack are two different things...

 

[forestyne]

Honestly, a stroke has nothing to do with a heart attack, like battered Cod and battered Plaice are completely different. The only thing they have in common is that the fish is battered. Sure, it's a lack of blood flow from an artery or a burst blood vessel, but having a heart attack won't give you a stroke. And a stroke isn't a heart condition. Neither of them are even 'conditions'. It's the leaking of a blood vessel or blockage in the brain which causes a stroke.

A heart attack is where the heart stops pumping blood because of a blockage. If you don't get medical attention after a heart attack, you will go into cardiac arrest and die. My granddad had a heart attack but he didn't have a stroke.

Both are extremely serious and can kill you, that's the only similarity. Of course, if you had used google instead of the Bell Tree Forum you would've found this out sooner.

 

[ams]

A heart attack is when there isn't enough blood getting to your heart muscle (often from a blockage/clot in the coronary arteries of the heart).

A stroke is when there isn't enough blood getting to your brain (often from a blockage/clot in the cerebral arteries of the brain).

Sometimes the clot that goes to the brain in a stroke starts in the heart due to heart failure (Heart failure is NOT a heart attack, it's when your heart isn't pumping correctly. This CAN happen if a heart attack is not treated, or if you have a bad heart rhythm).

Other times the clot/blockage in the brain has nothing to do with your heart and comes from somewhere else.

 

[LinkToTheWorld]

They're different things. I've had clots in the vessels to my brain a couple of times now and it caused stroke like symptoms with slurred speech, dropped face, etc. It's not related to the heart

 

[SensaiGallade]

A heart attack or a myocardial infarction, is the death of the heart muscle; often heart attacks are caused by the blockage of a coronary artery, which supplies the heart muscle with oxygen. These blockages could be anything from a blood clot, or even an atheroma (fatty deposits building up in the endothelium layer of a blood vessel.

A stroke is often caused by a blood vessel becoming burst. One way of getting a stroke is an atheroma ballooning out because of the high blood pressure, causing an aneurysm. If the aneurysm burst, then you have a stroke. It is especially dangerous if this happens in the brain.

Both are completely unrelated to each other.

 

[lizziety]

Yeah, they are two different things... You didn't do a horrible job at explaining it.
You got some great responses here though!
The most important thing to bring up is that neither of you guys want either of them lol

 

[toadsworthy]

Both would be considered in the field of cardiovascular medicine.

There can be factors that can increase risks of both at the same time and can be related, like blood clots. If you have a disease that causes your blood to clot more easily (Factor V leiden, Sickle Cell Anemia) it can increase your risk of both.

Heart Attacks and Strokes are both caused by abnormal blood flow to each respective area (Coronary arteries vs brain), both can cause irreversible damage to each area, you rarely see coronary arteries burst like you can have has a cause for a stroke, the most common cause for each though is clotting. I don't know everyone else's credentials, but take this from someone in a health-related field.

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The only thing I disagree on that you said is about the heart itself. the heart doesn't necessarily cause a stroke or a heart attack. For it to be the cause, that would mean something malfunctions in the heart to cause heart attack or stroke, and thats not typically true. I mean if you have horrible blood flow to the point of this, you are gonna run into more issues than just a heart attack or stroke.

Typically the heart pumps normally, but the clog in the blood vessels themselves, or weakening of blood vessels in some cases of stroke, causes the lack of oxygenated blood to either region

 

[chibibunnyx]

lol to everyone who actually read my post and discussed it thank you C:

to the ones that thought I didn't look it up, I did..
I came here to discuss the main idea of where it exactly stems from.
Google isn't capable of discussing a total like regular human beings -_-


If all you can do is throw sarcastic remarks in a post just because it's the internet, you aren't exactly helping or discussing anything, you're only a bit short from being a complete troll.

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Both would be considered in the field of cardiovascular medicine.

There can be factors that can increase risks of both at the same time and can be related, like blood clots. If you have a disease that causes your blood to clot more easily (Factor V leiden, Sickle Cell Anemia) it can increase your risk of both.

Heart Attacks and Strokes are both caused by abnormal blood flow to each respective area (Coronary arteries vs brain), both can cause irreversible damage to each area, you rarely see coronary arteries burst like you can have has a cause for a stroke, the most common cause for each though is clotting. I don't know everyone else's credentials, but take this from someone in a health-related field.

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The only thing I disagree on that you said is about the heart itself. the heart doesn't necessarily cause a stroke or a heart attack. For it to be the cause, that would mean something malfunctions in the heart to cause heart attack or stroke, and thats not typically true. I mean if you have horrible blood flow to the point of this, you are gonna run into more issues than just a heart attack or stroke.

Typically the heart pumps normally, but the clog in the blood vessels themselves, or weakening of blood vessels in some cases of stroke, causes the lack of oxygenated blood to either region

Yes you're right. To be honest after talking about it for a while, we found out all of the different kinds of heart attacks and stroke and learned a lot

We were going back and forth because of a relative who had fallen into a coma unfortunately because of a stroke, but she was confusing what she was explaining with a different kind of stroke is all ^_^