Hypermasculinity

[Kinoko]

Do people realize that women receiving lighter jail sentences and whatnot is literally one of the many issues that feminism tackles... It's about helping and protecting everyone from a system that hurts both women and men, but hurts women substantially more. And no one thinks that men cannot support the feminism movement, the problem is when men try to speak over women on feminist issues. Which happens a lot lol and they frequently get more attention/praise for doing it than when women speak up on our issues.

And I thought that the term 'meninist' was ORIGINALLY a term for male feminists (unfortunately it got ruined lol), since some people are uncomfortable with cis men being called 'feminists', probably as they don't understand what it is like to actually be a woman in today's society. Pro-feminism might be a better choice of words for men who want to be open about their support for the feminist movement, but I personally don't think that is a topic worth arguing over since we all are allies anyways.

 

[Ghost Soda]

Do people realize that women receiving lighter jail sentences and whatnot is literally one of the many issues that feminism tackles... It's about helping and protecting everyone from a system that hurts both women and men, but hurts women substantially more. And no one thinks that men cannot support the feminism movement, the problem is when men try to speak over women on feminist issues. Which happens a lot lol and they frequently get more attention/praise for doing it than when women speak up on our issues.

And I thought that the term 'meninist' was ORIGINALLY a term for male feminists (unfortunately it got ruined lol), since some people are uncomfortable with cis men being called 'feminists', probably as they don't understand what it is like to actually be a woman in today's society. Pro-feminism might be a better choice of words for men who want to be open about their support for the feminist movement, but I personally don't think that is a topic worth arguing over since we all are allies anyways.

Agreed 10/10.

 

[oath2order]

I'm not attacking you, I'm telling you why I think the term menimist is dumb.

No seriously though you do realize that it started off as a joke that some idiots took seriously and made into a movement

 

[Princess]

There seems to be some confusion on what feminism actually is.
So I'm going to try to cover it quickly here:

alright. SO. feminism is the movement that is all about GENDER EQUALITY.
Feminism fights and advocates for.....
women, men, girls, boys, transgirls, transboys, and everyone who identifies as basically...anything!
there is so discrimination based off of your gender idenity, ethnic origin, race, etc!

then why is it called feminism not equalism blah blah??

WELL. Because traditionally the movement was about the MASSIVE inequality women faced. However, feminism, or more specifically INTERSECTIONAL FEMINISM has grown to include anyone and everyone.


There is no need to feel threatened over the word feminism just because it has FEM in it. I mean.. we call it mankind more than we do humankind so. ?\_(ツ)_/?

also if meninists really wanted gender equality, wouldn't they be against hypermasculinity and refrain from adding the word men?? also wheres all the advocacy for oppressed visible groups????? js.

 

[radical6]

my ex best friend had an issue with his masculinity

he's short, and his friends are usually girls instead of boys, so i could tell he felt like he was being made fun of. that he was weak. or that people thought he was gay.

we were really close and best friends at the time until some stuff happened..anyway i wont get into that

but i would poke jokes at him, and i guess i never saw how it ate his self esteem away. im a very sarcastic person, and most people know i'm joking, but i guess he took it too personally. every joke i made hurt his self perception of being a man.

i never really cared about gender. i dont care about gender roles. i guess that's where we were different - he cared a lot about being a man. about being strong. and yeah he's strong, even though he's kind of short. he's feminine in some ways, and he hates that. i wish he could've just understood it's okay to not be Super Alpha Buff dude all the time.

i miss him at times, but i've realized now i can't ever really be friends with him until he gets over his obsession with wanting to be a true man. i mean i'm not perfect either and he had to put up with a lot of my mental breakdowns, but sometimes i feel like we wouldn't hate each other so much like we do now if only i understood his self esteem issues.

tldr: hypermasuculinity is toxic for men and ruins their self esteem

 

[Classygirl]

I have seen this effect someone I cared about, my ex was going to nursing school and also I guess admin type stuff and wanted to work with disabled children, and I feel people were pushing him to be a dr instead of his initial plan and honestly the things he seems more interested in were in the arts category but I felt like his father was really pushing him in different directions. He was sweet, would tear up at movies, bring flowers, be very affevtionate and compassionate and understanding and the so etching switched, he started going to the bigger college and rooming part time with another guy and he got really agressive and patronizing and I think I called him a boy once in a sweet way and he got really offended he was 21/22 he was like I am a man I'm like I don't care if someone calls me a girl..he openly said the people around him were saying it was impossible to have a girlfriend and get through shool which is crap and he just dissapeared after a year and a half the guy way..no conversation no in person goodbye just a text nothing bad happened I asked what was up, I'm busy, I'm stressed, then leave me alone..and it is quite sad..I don't know what he thinks he was missing out on but I know one day he will regret it and I can't take him back now too much pain was caused and I think he just couldn't handle expressing his feelings like he did once. Young guys do have a lot of pressure and to do what, act a fool..and be disrespectful to a woman if that's a man to him then I want my sweet boy back.

 

[Princess]

Thank you both for sharing your stories!

 

[Shimmer]

My bf struggles with this entire issue. He's not manly, strong or tough so his parents pick on him over it. Luckily he is aware that it is okay to not be manly while you're a guy but it still makes him angry. I personally like how sweet he is and how we can both cry together while watching things. Hilariously enough, he's more emotional than I am. XD

I think that "be a MAN" type of things are annoying. Just because you are a man doesn't mean you can't have a weakness. Men aren't some amazing creatures that don't contain hearts and feelings. Society needs to stop with gender roles already. We need to move on.

 

[Princess]

Bump

 

[Damniel]

I'm just a guy, I'm not a tough,manly man, not in any sports(I do chorus). I honestly don't care if I'm not a stereotypical guy honestly.