I'm sad...

[JJH]

All I can say is, next week I plan to try and get a 360 premium at Toys R Us, and for 400 dollars I'll get:
Xbox 360
20 gig HD
Wireless controller
Headset
12 months of the best online multiplayer console service
50% off another game
Free Halo 3
Free Forza Motorsport 2
Free Marvel Ultimate Alliance

What is that, a 560 dollar value?

My parents would definetly get me that for Christmas! But that would elminate my chances of getting GHIII and SMG for Christmas...

 

[JJRamone2]

We BOTH forgot Mass Effect....

No, it's on my list.

 

[Zero_13]

All I can say is, next week I plan to try and get a 360 premium at Toys R Us, and for 400 dollars I'll get:
Xbox 360
20 gig HD
Wireless controller
Headset
12 months of the best online multiplayer console service
50% off another game
Free Halo 3
Free Forza Motorsport 2
Free Marvel Ultimate Alliance

What is that, a 560 dollar value?

Sounds tempting..

But I heard the free Halo 3 comes in January, right?

 

[DarthGohan1]

It's only better for some people. I've had my Wii for 2 days short of a year, and I haven't even used half the memory on it... save data for games takes up practically no space.

Wii doesn't offer much download content, does it? Even with a silver (free) XBL account you get access to XBL Arcade and the XBL Marketplace, which has a ton of content from game demos to full-length movies.

I admit, demos are one thng the Wii lacks. Other than that, though, I find in-game downloads unnecessary... especially considering the fact you have to pay for some.
Also, as cool as Geometry Wars is, the Virtual Console has a ton more better games than XBLA.

And, 50 bucks for 12 months may be less than a dollar a week, but would you rather pay the 50 bucks for online service, or have a new game for 50 bucks? That choice is easy for me - I'd take the game with an online service not as expansive as Live, but still works fine.

Fact: Online play will prolong the time you spend on a game. 50 bucks for online play for a year will give you many more hours of enjoyment than simply another title.

There's no way to prove that. People I know with Wiis play just as much as people with 360s. So, I don't know if your statement is truly a fact.

As for better library, 360 does not have Galaxy, nor Prime 3, nor Twilight Princess, nor will it have Brawl, and a bunch of other stuff. Yeah, a Wii owner misses out on Gears and some other stuff, but like I said before, it all depends on what people enjoy playing.

Listing some good games that the 360 doesn't have is really no argument, but I can do that....
Gears of War
Forza Motorsport 2 (if you buy a 360 Premium you get this game and some Spiderman title, did I mention that, too? The premium package will also get you a HD, a headset, and if you buy at Toys R Us, 50% off another game)
Halo 3
Eternal Sonata (For you RPG people - not me)
CoD 4
The Orange Box
Assassin's Creed
Beautiful Katamari (Can't wait)
Crackdown
Resident Evil 5
Halo Wars
Just to name a few current and upcoming good games NOT coming to the Wii.

I've never been a huge fan of Halo (which is maybe a reason why I've never bought an XBox), but after playing Halo 3, it seemed quite similar to Halo 2, with the graphics being a bit better, and a couple new added features... but certainly not worth 60 bucks if you already have Halo 2. Orange Box, Half Life 2, and CoD 4 are all great games, I can't deny it... but any system will have its great games... it depends on which of these great games a player wants more when he decides which system to buy. So, it comes down to the choice between Gears, BioShock, TOB, HL2, CoD4, etc. or Galaxy, TP, Zack & Wiki, Prime 3, Brawl, etc.

Also, JJ... you can't say the Wii is not in demand... it has sold more units than the 360 (which you consider in demand), in half the time.

I know you took Economics, units sold doesn't show to what degree it is in demand.

So you're trying to tell me that there's more demand for 360 compared to Wii?

 

[JJRamone2]

DG's Last Post.

I actually laughed when you say people play their Wii's as much as people play their 360s, I own all three, the time between plays on the Wii for me is about once every month, as opposed to me playing my 360 every day, and my PS3 every week (at least). The whole "Friends/Online" features has made me play my 360 even more.

 

[Furry Sparks]

DG's Last Post.

I actually laughed when you say people play their Wii's as much as people play their 360s, I own all three, the time between plays on the Wii for me is about once every month, as opposed to me playing my 360 every day, and my PS3 every week (at least). The whole "Friends/Online" features has made me play my 360 even more.

I agree, if I had both I would play my 360 a TON more.

 

[Sporge27]

The problem witht the 360 is that most of its great games end up on PC.... and I love my PC, I should get a picture of me hugging it for my avatar.... Yeah the games come out later but whatever, I might just have to get gears of war now.... it is on PC now....

 

[Bulerias]

DG's Last Post.

I actually laughed when you say people play their Wii's as much as people play their 360s, I own all three, the time between plays on the Wii for me is about once every month, as opposed to me playing my 360 every day, and my PS3 every week (at least). The whole "Friends/Online" features has made me play my 360 even more.

OK, and you own... Fire Emblem? Galaxy? Zack & Wiki.

Case and point.

 

[JJRamone2]

DG's Last Post.

I actually laughed when you say people play their Wii's as much as people play their 360s, I own all three, the time between plays on the Wii for me is about once every month, as opposed to me playing my 360 every day, and my PS3 every week (at least). The whole "Friends/Online" features has made me play my 360 even more.

OK, and you own... Fire Emblem? Galaxy? Zack & Wiki.

Case and point.

Yes I do.

Case and point.

 

[Zero_13]

The problem witht the 360 is that most of its great games end up on PC.... and I love my PC, I should get a picture of me hugging it for my avatar.... Yeah the games come out later but whatever, I might just have to get gears of war now.... it is on PC now....

The problem of games coming out on PC's is, that you gotta have a super powerful pc to play them without lag.. something that common pc users don't have.

 

[Mino]

The Halo 3 deal was apparently misquoted on Bungie's website, the real offer is to people upgrading from an original XBox and original XBL....

But still, the premium package is a great bargain.

 

[Mino]

I admit, demos are one thng the Wii lacks. Other than that, though, I find in-game downloads unnecessary... especially considering the fact you have to pay for some.
Also, as cool as Geometry Wars is, the Virtual Console has a ton more better games than XBLA.

Most downloadable content that is needed to play online (such as extra maps) are not integrated completely immediately, and become free within a few months. All other things are up to the player if they want to spend their money on them.

Geometry Wars is one of the best games on XBL Arcade, but to anyone getting a 360, download Aegis Wing, it's free and very fun.

That being said, I'm not sure that the VC really has "a ton more better" games than XBL Arcade. I know for a fact that there are more XBLA titles than on the VC, and a good amount of them are cheaper. And soon you'll be able to download original XBox titles. The only good games on the VC are made by Nintendo, and are really just another way for Nintendo to repackage its old games. True it has Sonic, but so does XBLA as well. Most of the stuff on XBLA is new and fresh, weather its a remake of an older game (such as Marathon: Durandal) or an entirely new addition to a franchise (Bomberman Live, which is very fun).

There's no way to prove that. People I know with Wiis play just as much as people with 360s. So, I don't know if your statement is truly a fact.

Being able to have a new and fresh multiplayer experience everyday is a fact. And there is no way to prove that the people you know really do play as much as you think, or weather your friends are even the norm.

I've never been a huge fan of Halo (which is maybe a reason why I've never bought an XBox), but after playing Halo 3, it seemed quite similar to Halo 2, with the graphics being a bit better, and a couple new added features... but certainly not worth 60 bucks if you already have Halo 2. Orange Box, Half Life 2, and CoD 4 are all great games, I can't deny it... but any system will have its great games... it depends on which of these great games a player wants more when he decides which system to buy. So, it comes down to the choice between Gears, BioShock, TOB, HL2, CoD4, etc. or Galaxy, TP, Zack & Wiki, Prime 3, Brawl, etc.

Are you saying Bungie should've tampered with it's massively successful Halo 2 experience? No, with completely new campaign story, weapons, vehicles, maps, and ONLINE FEATURES. The only new gameplay element is equipment, which I'm still on the fence about. With the exception of Gears of War, I was listing games that came out within the last few months, the 360 has been out since October 2005 and has many other good games besides the ones you listed, so no it isn't just those games vs. those four games (one of which isn't out yet).

So you're trying to tell me that there's more demand for 360 compared to Wii?

Did I say that? No, but measuring how many units have been sold of a product doesn't measure its demand is all I'm trying to say.

 

[TwilightKing]

Mino, why are you arguing that the 360 is better, when the topic at hand is clearly about the wii and the original poster has already said that he wants a wii and has no interest in the 360 at the moment? Everyone has their own personal choice for consoles and it's obvious that he wants a wii. Both consoles are great and have their ups and downs.

 

[.moof]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

 

[JJRamone2]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

I <3 U and your ability to express what I think.

 

[.moof]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

I <3 U and your ability to express what I think.

It comes naturally.

 

[TwilightKing]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

Actually, for the extra 100$ he'd be getting something he doesn't want. Try reading what the person actually wants before telling him what you think is worth it and that the thing he wants is crap.

 

[.moof]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

Actually, for the extra 100$ he'd be getting something he doesn't want. Try reading what the person actually wants before telling him what you think is worth it and that the thing he wants is crap.

I have a Wii. Got like 10 of the best games on it, and most of them have games on the XBOX that are better than them. I never said it's crap, just said that it would be better to spend another 100$ for a much better console. There's like, 8 games for the Wii that are actually fun. For the XBOX 360, there are several more.

And who doesn't want better games, better graphics, etc?


This is someone playing the Wii:

Wii fit is so fun. It's really entertaining to stand on a white mat, and do things I can do outside! I mean, lifting your leg, then lifting your other one is really addicting. And who could have thought of a game that has you stepping on arrows to some music? I've never heard of that before!

This is someone playing the XBOX 360:

Hmm... what to do today? Oh I know.

Finish Bioshock
Play campaign on Gears of war then go kill everyone on online
^Same as above except with Halo 3.
Finish another 15 games. I'm so glad I didn't get a Wii! I'd be playing Wii fit right now.





Oh yeah, and anyone who points out Wii's library of games, you're wrong about them all except for maybe Galaxy. Fire emblem is a copy of the gamecube version (Except for a different storyline. No new elements). Zack and Wiki... well, would you rather be playing some platformer aimed at a 8 year old audience or be playing an intense FPS.?

 

[TwilightKing]

In exchange for those 100$, you'll be getting:

Better graphics

Better library

etc, etc


Plus Wifi is only free because it sucks. Live owns, and you'll get Halo 3, which is worth 70$.



Wii's arent worth it. I'm thinking about selling mine on ebay, if it were mine. ><

Actually, for the extra 100$ he'd be getting something he doesn't want. Try reading what the person actually wants before telling him what you think is worth it and that the thing he wants is crap.

I have a Wii. Got like 10 of the best games on it, and most of them have games on the XBOX that are better than them. I never said it's crap, just said that it would be better to spend another 100$ for a much better console. There's like, 8 games for the Wii that are actually fun. For the XBOX 360, there are several more.

And who doesn't want better games, better graphics, etc?


This is someone playing the Wii:

Wii fit is so fun. It's really entertaining to stand on a white mat, and do things I can do outside! I mean, lifting your leg, then lifting your other one is really addicting. And who could have thought of a game that has you stepping on arrows to some music? I've never heard of that before!

This is someone playing the XBOX 360:

Hmm... what to do today? Oh I know.

Finish Bioshock
Play campaign on Gears of war then go kill everyone on online
^Same as above except with Halo 3.
Finish another 15 games. I'm so glad I didn't get a Wii! I'd be playing Wii fit right now.





Oh yeah, and anyone who points out Wii's library of games, you're wrong about them all except for maybe Galaxy. Fire emblem is a copy of the gamecube version (Except for a different storyline. No new elements). Zack and Wiki... well, would you rather be playing some platformer aimed at a 8 year old audience or be playing an intense FPS.?

Your ignorance makes me laugh. In the post you made that you also quoted, you state that Nintendo's wi-fi sucks. You obviously haven't read the posts in this thread, and if you did, you would know that the Kyle is NOT interested in an Xbox 360, and i am NOT arguing that one is better than the other. They are both great systems and it's personal preference which one you want so I suggest that you stop bashing the Wii and making yourself sound like a stereotypical fool and fanboy.

 

[Furry Sparks]

you state that Nintendo's wi-fi sucks.

EVERYONE should agree with that.