Mafia Improbable Role Mafia 2 - Endgame

[unravel]

Yeah Punchy told me he was protecting himself so he did indeed kill himself.

 

[dedenne]

Kinda glad I died BUT STILL ://///
And @Bianca, I didn't get told what they did

 

[Chele]

Isn’t Waffles dead? Why is she still posting?

Anyways, I’ve finshed my homework (finaalllyy) and I don’t really understand this though.
Does the bomb go off at the start or end of Day 3?
I don’t know, I’ve trusted Farobi and given him my role but something about his role specification felt really weird.
If Ness or somebody else answers the question above, then I could go into more detail.
Heyden’s role made sense, I kinda knew it from the start as he posted from orange to red lol
It makes sense for Tina to be scum though, so I guess I’d have to trust Farobi on this one.

 

[Chele]

Scratch that, I?m not voting yet.
The reason I?m just confused about Farobi?s role is because he PM?d me saying that he had investigated me and that he was a ?pm cop?. He asked for my alignment after he mentioned that. I replied asking why he wanted to know my alignment and why he roleclaimed to me. I asked for more clarification on the term ?PM Cop?. Farobi said his role, a PM Cop, is basically a dumb cop who roleclaims whenever investigating a player. Now the main reason I?m confused here is because Farobi was the one who told me that he was the cop and roleclaimed. Honestly, I would?ve thought that if he was this PM cop of his description, then it would?ve made sense if Ness was the one that PM?d me and said ?Farobi the PM Cop has investigated you?. Instead, it very weirdly turns out that he was the one that told me that... and I didn?t understand that. Farobi later told me that he forwards the messages to Ness, but I?m just really confused and I don?t think that Ness would do that. Somebody could easily pretend that they?re forwarding a message by putting the fw tag at the start, and make up fake quotes. That?s why I don?t even think that this role would be real, but at the same time Tina would make sense to be a scum.
Could anybody defend Farobi on this role and give me evidence...? ?Cause if not, then I?m not voting her.

 

[Farobi]

The PM cop claim was a half joke/reaction test on my behalf, I made use of the game's private role structure to try to catch scum off guard. To be fair, the later responses of me saying that I was a dumb cop that had to forward things to Ness was just me playing along, but my ultimate goal was to try to catch non-town from the mix. I PM'd other people in the game too by the way saying the same thing but their responses were more town-aligned than yours. I was banking on the risk of scum overthinking the likeliness that I'm not actually being a cop so that they won't kill me.

tbh I was lowkey messing around with that message because the idea of a PM cop is so far-fetched. Funnily enough I think it helped make things clearer for me, more or less

 

[Chick]

First of all @Dad, you going after me for just talking about Chele?s behaviour is really pushy and it?s just a lame excuse to go after me. I was literally just sharing my thoughts. I said that Chele?s behaviour is pretty normal so far. I never defended her or townleaned her. I just shared an early game thought. And why are you saying that I?m thinking that people would read my post so I need to look good? Off course everybody makes their posts sound good. What do you think the point of Mafia is then? To make their posts sound sloppy and dull? I don?t even know what you were trying to get out of me tbh. If I hadn?t shared my thoughts, then you would?ve been sussing me either way for not sharing if I hadn?t. And before you say that this feels forced, what would?ve you wanted from me then? Do you think that when a player makes reads then we sus them for ?trying to look good??
Also, if you think that my posts are rushed then that?s basically the reason that I took a break from Mafia and this would probably be my last game now. Even I can tell that I?m not playing as myself anymore. I am always rushed as a person, I have a very high priority job and I work for more hours than usual now. And I?m so busy nowadays which is why I try to just push in some of my thoughts before or after my working times and I actually try to post.

So FAROBAE...why didn?t you ask me about my role, huh? Also, who?s the second scum? You said you think that you?ve got them.
Btw Chele we have no other lynch options, and it?s better that we at least try and trust Farobi because he?s our only chance and he could be potentially correct and lead us to kill this mafia bomb activator. It?s a 50% chance, and it?s better than mislynching which could be like 25%.

 

[Farobi]

@Chick - I just PM'd the people who were active at the thread during a particular time, or at least have recently posted. I was bored so I wanted to PM people lol

 

[Chris]

Call me crazy but I think that Mafia kills are the ones that are spaced between the day and night phases. Waffles died in the middle of the day because somebody used an action on him, and if that person is town they would've gone forward publicly and told their role and action to potentially clear themselves, at least that's how I'd see it from an actual town perspective. But the fear of getting caught in the spotlight might be the reason that they're hiding it, simply because they're mafia.

I know who this person is because they served this contradictory-filled PMs to me so easily, and I have shared this information with one other person so if I die then the information I have isn't lost for good. But considering the time limit town has I think pursuing the most likely mafia candidate is the optimal route: and it's Tina.

I don't care if I die since I think I got two scum, so I'll make it clear to town that I'm a flavor cop who gets a snippet of the role PMs of another person and also their color alignment. I inspected Tina last night, and she returned red with her role that reads "you will send me an action targeting 1 player". Meaning she has done have an actionable role. I reread my own role PM and it also has the same wording, but I think the red return I received more or less seals the deal.

#LYNCH TINA

I've not even finished catching up on reading the thread, but I can tell you all right now this is BS. I don't know if this a bold ass play from you or you're insane, but I am town.

 

[Farobi]

I've not even finished catching up on reading the thread, but I can tell you all right now this is BS. I don't know if this a bold ass play from you or you're insane, but I am town.

How can you be town when the intel I received from Ness points to you being mafia-aligned? There's no way you're town - and the way you're playing supplements that.

It would be nice to hear what you have done the night before however, since you claim to be town. I'm sure you have a night role, and considering the time constraints town has to take the win it would be in your best benefit to reveal right now what you do.

 

[Chris]

How can you be town when the intel I received from Ness points to you being mafia-aligned? There's no way you're town - and the way you're playing supplements that.

It would be nice to hear what you have done the night before however, since you claim to be town. I'm sure you have a night role, and considering the time constraints town has to take the win it would be in your best benefit to reveal right now what you do.

> that quote is not in my PM.
> my role is not red.

Therefore you're lying.

 

[Geoni]

I've not even finished catching up on reading the thread, but I can tell you all right now this is BS. I don't know if this a bold ass play from you or you're insane, but I am town.

idk why you're acting like this game is a lot to catch up on because it isn't. Should take someone 20 minutes tops to read the entire thing. You bringing up the insane idea is your best defense and one I see you resorting to but I don't see two of the big roles of the game being insane.

Also damn, I really ruffled Chick's feathers it seems. You're damn right it was a push because that's what I do best.

 

[Farobi]

> that quote is not in my PM.
> my role is not red.

Therefore you're lying.

Welp. I was entertaining the possibility that you could have been framed, but you saying that that quote is not in your PM honestly just lost you the remaining town points you may have had from me.

 

[Chris]

I wrote my reads up yesterday, but I was waiting to see Dedenne's flip. Yes, I knew she was going to die. I shot her for her excuses and lurking. I'd say Farobi took a lucky guess when he made up that quote about my PM (but honestly it's to be expected I have an action in a game like this) but I go by what I've already said: it's not worded in that way at all. Not only is the sentence structure different but it doesn't have the words "targeted" or "1 player" in it. If I say more than that I'll probably get modkilled. Which is how I know he's either lying or insane. Or both. Had he not decided to attempt to guess how my PM was worded, I might have thought he was simply insane. But it's like when a kid tells a lie to their mother and she knows because it's too convoluted.

I'm 75% vigilante. The other 25% I'll keep to myself for now. Regardless, I'd rather see Farobi be lynched for his outright lying. But if I have to go down first for you to realise I'm town then so be it. I shot Dedenne, so I think either scum has one KP (even if it's two players) or a single SK is remaining. Either that or my shot overlapped but I don't know why scum would kill Dedenne. If it's a two partner scum team then if you'd like to lynch me first it could cost us the game unless we've another vig. 100% your call though. I was going to PM someone this, but the only person I trust is Bianca and I feel like she'd just repeat this to Farobi anyway. I'd rather it go to the masses than he receive it through private means.

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(these are only up to date as of Intermission 2)

Punchy
reads as town
?Oh Kay. Smh I don't trust anyone anymore. Wait, so Vanessa wasn't able to have any actions? That's confusing. I rlly don't know who is scum anymore honestly. I hope this isn't a troll game where there's no scum.? - feels genuine
#171 paranoid. why?

Byngo
proposes two scum. If she flips scum assume this number is accurate.
"only other thing to add rn is im giving chele some town points too, not because of anything she?s said specifically but cuz her opening post is v different from her scum meta of making bigass posts for the sake of looking good, without actually furthering the game? - I don?t know why this is relevant for a town player to point out. Chick kinda did this too.
?i might just use my ability to troll? - would scum say this? Probably not.

Heyden
#178 messed up his shade of orange to red in one post. Any repercussion?
Further crap-posting is possibly a sign of being town and not feeling pressured. Should prob find one of his scum games.

Farobi
?doctor, detective, bulletproof/veteran, roleblocker. + fun roles i wouldve probably preferred? - possibly implies his role suggests other typical mafia roles?
?Btw PM me if you used an action on waffles. You can trust me? - can we?

Chele
first post gives me a weird vibe. Says they?re taking the game only 40-50% serious but immediately makes big serious post. Tone in it sounds hostile. Read into their playstyle.

Chick
?hmm this game is gonna be hard? Why?
Makes a comment on Chele that feels unprompted. Byngo did this too.

Dedenne
Lurking for a while?
#102 excuses
#131 more excuses
Lurking still?
And still?
#195 AND POSTS ANOTHER EXCUSE
Sod it I?m gonna shoot her.

Dad
I feel like Dad could have spun my activity a lot harder if he had something to gain from my lynch.

 

[Chick]

So if Tina doesn’t have any night actions then what even is she? Earlier in the thread when Waffles died during the day, she had only find out about day actions just then. Ness confirmed that we all at least have 1 action.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Ninja’d by Tina wait lemme see her post

 

[Chele]

Chele
first post gives me a weird vibe. Says they?re taking the game only 40-50% serious but immediately makes big serious post. Tone in it sounds hostile. Read into their playstyle.

When I had a shower this popped up into my head as well, I remembered the RQ?s lol
But first of all, you shouldn?t be using somebody?s RQ?s to read into them. RQ?s are just basic questions asked early game of what your expectations are of it. I was sorta expecting that this was gonna be a trolly game where everybody is just posting memes and not scumhunting because the roles are mayhem. But turns out I was wrong. Also considering that I posted that during the early game hours, I hope that you still don?t think the same of me now as we could be coming to endgame. I know my playstyle as well, and seriously almost every post of mine has been serious. I?m referring to my short existence in rhom when I was Town.

 

[Chris]

... I know my playstyle as well, and seriously almost every post of mine has been serious. I’m referring to my short existence in rhom when I was Town.

Oh, I just copied and pasted my notes lol the "read into their playstyle" was a reminder to myself. Which I haven't done yet.

 

[Chick]

Well Tina tbh i?m kinda sitting on the fence about you. i believe you when you said that you shot Dedenne. you had a valid reason for it. the thing is maybe you could just be a Mafia as well though. it is a possibility that you have a scum mate and you have a specific shot that you can use along with another ability that you can maybe use at night. the fact that you say that you?re 3/4 of a vig and 1/4 of another power makes me think this as well. who knows? maybe you and your scummate/s will choose to kill one person instead two tonight to justify yourself. the thing is we have to lynch someone today though to find out during night time. But if you are scum then that?s a risk taken from us, and we?re basically dead. if we were not to lynch you today, then who would we lynch then? i believe Farobae with his claim it makes complete sense and there?s no doubt that he is scum. if he was scum, then people who just got killed would?ve had a last post saying that Farobae is mafia because he pm them and he?s the only one who knows their roles. also may I say that the unnessecary pushing on people and questions seem out of place. guys let?s just lynch Tina tbh. there?s not enough evidence to back Tina up.

 

[Chris]

Well Tina tbh i’m kinda sitting on the fence about you. i believe you when you said that you shot Dedenne. you had a valid reason for it. the thing is maybe you could just be a Mafia as well though. it is a possibility that you have a scum mate and you have a specific shot that you can use along with another ability that you can maybe use at night. the fact that you say that you’re 3/4 of a vig and 1/4 of another power makes me think this as well. who knows? maybe you and your scummate/s will choose to kill one person instead two tonight to justify yourself. the thing is we have to lynch someone today though to find out during night time. But if you are scum then that’s a risk taken from us, and we’re basically dead. if we were not to lynch you today, then who would we lynch then? i believe Farobae with his claim it makes complete sense and there’s no doubt that he is scum. if he was scum, then people who just got killed would’ve had a last post saying that Farobae is mafia because he pm them and he’s the only one who knows their roles. also may I say that the unnessecary pushing on people and questions seem out of place. guys let’s just lynch Tina tbh. there’s not enough evidence to back Tina up.

People can't reveal game-changing information in their last post.

Of course there isn't evidence. It's D2 and I can't prove my PM is written differently because I'd be modkilled for it. The only evidence against me is a lie. And if I have to prove that by dying so you can all see that my PM is not written that way then okay. I'll lay down and die.

 

[Chris]

If we've a day vig, shoot me and get it over with so they don't waste the lynch.

 

[Chele]

I need to go to sleep right now ugh.
Honestly, I agree with Chick. There’s not enough evidence to back Tina up. Yes, she shot Dedenne but Chick mentioned that it could be apart of her role. Farobi is more confirmed than Tina and we shoudn’t be focused on any other lynch options because we have a possible scum target and a possible death tomorrow. Imma just vote Tina and go to sleep.

- - - Post Merge - - -

If we've a day vig, shoot me and get it over with so they don't waste the lynch.

Weren’t you the day vig...?